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Ther goalie

Post by conyoviejo » Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:01 pm

Could waste time better than Nick Pope. Lol.

Got his just desserts the plonker. Made some good saves though.🤣

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by DAVETHEVICAR » Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:07 pm

Their keeper did not waste any more time than any other goalkeeper in all 4 Divisions.
Burnley fans seem to expect him to release the ball within 1 second of collecting it

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by MDWat » Wed Nov 02, 2022 10:08 pm

He was holding the ball for 20+ seconds at a time. Don’t blame him as the clueless referee had no idea how to control the game.

Felt a bit sorry for him, he was brilliant until the winner.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by bfcjg » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:14 pm

He pulled of some amazing saves in fairness and wasn't the worst time waster.
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Re: Ther goalie

Post by LowtonClaret » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:19 pm

A good keeper. He did what he needed to do like it or not. It's OK us being all high a mighty when Pope did the same thing but that's what we wanted him to do. It's tuff at the top.

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Post by boatshed bill » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:21 pm

I thought he was excellent.
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Re: Ther goalie

Post by dougcollins » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:22 pm

Poor on the third goal, luckily for us.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:23 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:22 pm
Poor on the third goal, luckily for us.
Yes, that's about right, Doug.
His only mistake really

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by distortiondave » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:24 pm

Is the 6 second rule officially abolished, or can a keeper technically still get penalised for it?

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by claptrappers_union » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:24 pm

Was the man of the match of me
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Re: Ther goalie

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:26 pm

He held onto it for 18 seconds at one point!!

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by quoonbeatz » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:51 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:24 pm
Is the 6 second rule officially abolished, or can a keeper technically still get penalised for it?
Nope, still the law.

The foul throw law made a comeback at the weekend after about 20 years absence, so might be waiting a while for anyone to enforce the 6 seconds.
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Re: Ther goalie

Post by distortiondave » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:57 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:51 pm
Nope, still the law.

The foul throw law made a comeback at the weekend after about 20 years absence, so might be waiting a while for anyone to enforce the 6 seconds.
What's the penalty for it, assuming a ref gives it?

Why can't the linesmen account for this - they barely even have to give offside these days, so why not have them count to six?

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:59 pm

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:57 pm
What's the penalty for it, assuming a ref gives it?

Why can't the linesmen account for this - they barely even have to give offside these days, so why not have them count to six?
I guess they add a few seconds if they see fit to do so.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by MT03ALG » Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:04 am

Does anyone know where the 6 second rule is stated in the Laws of the Game, if at all ?

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by quoonbeatz » Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:17 am

distortiondave wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:57 pm
What's the penalty for it, assuming a ref gives it?

Why can't the linesmen account for this - they barely even have to give offside these days, so why not have them count to six?
Indirect free kick.

Liners are under strict instructions to only give ins and outs these days, and only in the direction the referee tells them.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by quoonbeatz » Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:18 am

MT03ALG wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:04 am
Does anyone know where the 6 second rule is stated in the Laws of the Game, if at all ?
Law 12. In the 'indirect free kick' section.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by dsr » Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:54 am

The keeper's time wasting wasn't particularly egregious, I thought. It was the "lie down and pretend to be injured" timewasting that was the real stinker.
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Re: Ther goalie

Post by Dinks » Thu Nov 03, 2022 7:52 am

Got what he deserved

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by Top Claret » Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:21 am

Can't think of much time wasting from the keeper I thought he had a good game. Their right back was the main culprit who was finally subed plus a host of others

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by Culmclaret » Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:28 am

He had a very good game until the 102nd minute

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by The Hung Juror » Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:48 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:21 pm
I thought he was excellent.
Could it be anything to do with Billy Mercer, who if I'm not mistaken was on their bench.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by agreenwood » Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:53 am

The goalie was bad, but their number 10 spent more time sat down on the pitch than upright last night.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Nov 03, 2022 8:58 am

Billy Mercer played for Rotherham and if they've got him in as goal keeper coach they will do well
Billy coached 3 keepers we had to become full internationals. The best gk coach in England

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by burnleymik » Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:12 am

Made some very good saves and did as much as the referee let him get away with. Certainly kept them in the game a few times.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by Roosterbooster » Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:33 am

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:26 pm
He held onto it for 18 seconds at one point!!
More than once
I got to 20 seconds on the watch at one point

I know Pope did it alot, and Muric does it from time to time. But I still dont like it when we do it, and I really hate it when opposition keepers do it. I really like the 6 second rule, and I have no idea why referees aren't implementing it. Same with foul throws, blocking free kicks, kicking the ball away, sneaking yards with throw ins and free kicks. The rules are there to stop it, so why don't referees just do their jobs? It'd make the game much better

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:39 am

Part and parcel of Rotherhams ridiculous time wasting tactics. In fairness their goalkeeper was doing what most sides would be doing to secure the point(s). He was a bit naughty though when deliberately leaving his shin pad outside the penalty area and should have been booked.

The other stuff, such as constantly dropping with 'injury' every time we were building up pressure got what it it deserved by the referee at the end with the added time.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by tarkys_ears » Thu Nov 03, 2022 9:54 am

Stupid ref doesn't seem to think it's time wasting for him to hold onto the ball for 10 seconds then spend 10 seconds walking to the edge of the area to kick it out.

Bring back the 3 steps rule or whatever it was. It's a pisstake these days!

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by Tricky Trevor » Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:35 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Wed Nov 02, 2022 11:51 pm
The foul throw law made a comeback at the weekend after about 20 years absence
I’m still waiting for the return of obstruction, when the ball isn’t in playing distance, but I think I’ll have a long wait.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by mdd2 » Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:39 pm

Isnt the rule which all ignore to release the ball before 5 seconds?

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by Bosscat » Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:55 pm

mdd2 wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 3:39 pm
Isnt the rule which all ignore to release the ball before 5 seconds?
Thought it was 6 seconds 🤔

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by mdd2 » Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:07 pm

Yes apparently it is. Clearly one of the most ignored rules of the game

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by Sean Dyche's Watch » Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:14 pm

Did there used to be a rule limiting the number of steps a goalkeeper could take whilst they had the ball in their hands?

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by Stayingup » Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:34 pm

He had a good game. OK he spilled one from a very decent shot, as Pope did for England and Pickford did in a recent match as well but he was a good keeper. But the standards of refereeing vary quite a bit. Muric was booked last week doe running out to talk to one of our players YET this guy was not even spoken to by the referee. He might well though, reflect on the10 minutes of added time.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by claretandy » Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:36 pm

No wonder their keeper is doing well, i didn't know Billy Mercer was there.
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Re: Ther goalie

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:22 pm

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 4:14 pm
Did there used to be a rule limiting the number of steps a goalkeeper could take whilst they had the ball in their hands?
Yes, 4 steps.

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by NewClaret » Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:30 pm

claretandy wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:36 pm
No wonder their keeper is doing well, i didn't know Billy Mercer was there.
That explains it then!!

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Re: Ther goalie

Post by boatshed bill » Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:43 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:30 pm
That explains it then!!
Not entirely.

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