SD on Talksport this morning (10th Nov) @10am

[jos]

Just heard Sean is a guest on the White and Jordon show this morning.

In case anyone is interested.

[Blatherwickstattoo]

Pimping himself out with the same anecdotes zzzzz

[CleggHall]

Sadly becoming a “yesterday man”.

[AlargeClaret]

I’m guessing it’s clear one of his clauses was “ no job for xxx time period “ along with this obvious ND clauses . Unless he genuinely has not wanted anything ?

[Bosscat]

Not interested now ... Seans time has been and gone really ... great servant and manager till that last 18 months.

[Quickenthetempo]

It will be job centre requirements.

Please write down all the things you are doing to get a job or we will stop your dole.

[PremierLeagueClass]

Some strange comments on here.

[BurnleyFC]

Some strange comments on here.

Indeed.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Seems like he is no where near with regards to Premier League jobs given who has been appointed at Saints.

[FeedTheArf]

Seems like he is no where near with regards to Premier League jobs given who has been appointed at Saints.

... and he never was going to be. Or any PL job really.

SD and Burnley were a convenient marriage. I'm not for one minute detracting from his achievements with us, but rightly or wrongly he (and by extension BFC) were tarnished with ''Brexit football". Fans don't want it, it'd be an unfashionable appointment. Wasn't it Sam Allardyce that said if he was called Allardicini he'd have had a lot more high profile jobs??

Whether or not SD can build a team in another image remains to be seen, but it's going to be a hard perception to shift. If he wants to be a PL manager again he's going to have to take a team up from the Championship again.

[Spijed]

... and he never was going to be. Or any PL job really.

SD and Burnley were a convenient marriage. I'm not for one minute detracting from his achievements with us, but rightly or wrongly he (and by extension BFC) were tarnished with ''Brexit football". Fans don't want it, it'd be an unfashionable appointment. Wasn't it Sam Allardyce that said if he was called Allardicini he'd have had a lot more high profile jobs??

Whether or not SD can build a team in another image remains to be seen, but it's going to be a hard perception to shift. If he wants to be a PL manager again he's going to have to take a team up from the Championship again.

Yet Southampton appoint a manager who knows nothing but direct football. Strange.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

... and he never was going to be. Or any PL job really.

SD and Burnley were a convenient marriage. I'm not for one minute detracting from his achievements with us, but rightly or wrongly he (and by extension BFC) were tarnished with ''Brexit football". Fans don't want it, it'd be an unfashionable appointment. Wasn't it Sam Allardyce that said if he was called Allardicini he'd have had a lot more high profile jobs??

Whether or not SD can build a team in another image remains to be seen, but it's going to be a hard perception to shift. If he wants to be a PL manager again he's going to have to take a team up from the Championship again.

On social media it's generally split down the middle when Dyche is linked with a job.
Plenty of fans would have him, they admire and respect what he did here and the way his team's grafted hard.

The brexit football is just absolute guff and anyone with half a brain knows it.

[warksclaret]

Must say I was not a big fan towards the end of his reign, but I found the Talksport feature today very interesting and informative, and it won a lot of positive responses from listeners. I thought Simon Jordan asked him some very pointed questions about the public's perception of SD and his style of football. He took it all on the chin and had some excellent responses backed up with facts. He says it as it is.

I think SD realises he could soon be "a forgotten" manager and uses these opportunities to reinvogorate his CV and achievements

[Stayingup]

On social media it's generally split down the middle when Dyche is linked with a job.
Plenty of fans would have him, they admire and respect what he did here and the way his team's grafted hard.

The brexit football is just absolute guff and anyone with half a brain knows it.

Anyone with more than half a brain wouldn't say Brexit football - whatever that may be.

[Chester Perry]

Anyone who wants to catch-up on what SD had to say can watch it here from 2hrs 5 mins 15 seconds in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScFsvBH6cOs

[Firthy]

I think some people on here have very short memories of what he managed to achieve and in the most part maintain with limited funds. From hero to zero with some on here. Can we not just respect the man for what he did for our club and ignore these threads if you have nothing good to say. Yes people are entitled to their opinions but let's please show him some respect and not make out he's desperately looking for a job.

[MACCA]

I can't wait until he finally gets a job!

[FeedTheArf]

I think some people on here have very short memories of what he managed to achieve and in the most part maintain with limited funds. From hero to zero with some on here. Can we not just respect the man for what he did for our club and ignore these threads if you have nothing good to say. Yes people are entitled to their opinions but let's please show him some respect and not make out he's desperately looking for a job.

What Dyche did for us was amazing. I'm not taking away from that at all. My point was that the perception of Dyche outside of Burnley, to fans and therefore impressionable owners, is what will stop him getting a job at the top level - IMO of course!

[helmclaret]

Let me guess;

Enjoys a few beers
Best mates with Kasabian
Been offered a lot of jobs

[Winstonswhite]

Let me guess;

Enjoys a few beers
Best mates with Kasabian
Been offered a lot of jobs

Wrong!!

[FeedTheArf]

What Dyche did for us was amazing. I'm not taking away from that at all. My point was that the perception of Dyche outside of Burnley, to fans and therefore impressionable owners, is what will stop him getting a job at the top level - IMO of course!

Interestingly, having now listened to the interview, Simon Jordan has just made that exact point!!

[claretandy]

Interestingly he repeated that wood was sold because of the clause, Jordan kept quiet and didn't challenge it.

[bfcjg]

I got the impression though that he has moved on from Burnley no real affection likening it to him being a journeyman footballer so doesn't get attached. Quite interesting when he pointed out his grievance was with the former board and the pittance of a transfer fund he got resulting in Dale Stephens.
Thought his dig at the temporary management put in.place to replace him was a bit petty describing them as novices.

[Nonayforever]

Interestingly he repeated that wood was sold because of the clause, Jordan kept quiet and didn't challenge it.

I know it's been discussed a million times but I still don't believe that line.

[Row Z]

Interestingly, having now listened to the interview, Simon Jordan has just made that exact point!!

Dyche on Monday Night Football was asked about his style of football and I’m sure his response was that he was playing to suit the squad he had… in my view that’s fine when you’ve been at a club for 6-12 months to get results, but not the length of time he was with us.

I was all for him rebuilding us upon relegation, but doubt we’d be seeing the style of football we currently are doing, with the age and profile of player.

[boatshed bill]

I got the impression though that he has moved on from Burnley no real affection likening it to him being a journeyman footballer so doesn't get attached. Quite interesting when he pointed out his grievance was with the former board and the pittance of a transfer fund he got resulting in Dale Stephens.
Thought his dig at the temporary management put in.place to replace him was a bit petty describing them as novices.

That would be the same Dale Stephens he allegedly chased for some time (2 years?) before signing him.
Bulls hit.

[Row Z]

That would be the same Dale Stephens he allegedly chased for some time (2 years?) before signing him.
Bulls hit.

Not only that but the temporary management actually got more out the side in that last period of games than he did… if it wasn’t for overthinking it in the last few Jackson may well have kept us up.

[ksrclaret]

I really hope he gets a chance at a Premier League job because I'll be genuinely hugely intrigued as to how he'll get on.

I thought the point about Nuno at Tottenham was a strong one. Managers don't tend to reinvent themselves and their style of coaching based on the players they inherit. It just doesn't happen. It's something even the very best managers can't do, but they just bring in players to suit them.

[Bowclaret]

For me he’s become VERY arrogant. Nothing like when he first arrived when he was very respectful to the media and fans alike. With all these interviews he’s doing, also to get another job touting himself about I don’t think he’s doing himself any good - he just sounds bitter !

That said - he was awesome for us and will be a legend for what he gave us and what he did for us but again, towards the end it became “all about him” like our former captain recently said !

In my opinion he will not get another prem job. He should start again in the Championship or League one and “bring on” or “build” a club again BUT I don’t think his ego or now his perceived arrogance will allow that !

Thanks Again Sean and good luck but we have a new “novice” in charge now who will take us to another level - I’m sure of that !

[Lancasterclaret]

We do need for people to stop calling it Brexit football

It was successful for starters, but it was essentially an excellent use of what we had and forced on us by the constraints we were under

We certainly played some lovely stuff in the season we finished 7th

[boatshed bill]

For me he’s become VERY arrogant. Nothing like when he first arrived when he was very respectful to the media and fans alike. With all these interviews he’s doing, also to get another job touting himself about I don’t think he’s doing himself any good - he just sounds bitter !

That said - he was awesome for us and will be a legend for what he gave us and what he did for us but again, towards the end it became “all about him” like our former captain recently said !

In my opinion he will not get another prem job. He should start again in the Championship or League one and “bring on” or “build” a club again BUT I don’t think his ego or now his perceived arrogance will allow that !

Thanks Again Sean and good luck but we have a new “novice” in charge now who will take us to another level - I’m sure of that !

Great post.

[ClaretPete001]

I got the impression though that he has moved on from Burnley no real affection likening it to him being a journeyman footballer so doesn't get attached. Quite interesting when he pointed out his grievance was with the former board and the pittance of a transfer fund he got resulting in Dale Stephens.
Thought his dig at the temporary management put in.place to replace him was a bit petty describing them as novices.

I guess like Ben Mee he is probably still processing his departure. He was here for ten years and I'm sure he is aware of how quickly the club has moved on.

He wasn't digging at the temporary management he was making the point that there was no strategy behind the sacking.

And given where all the money is now I'm sure he does feel somewhat aggrieved.

[jollyjack]

Needs to re-boot in the lower leagues with a project smaller club and gain one/two promotions again before any bigger clubs will consider him. He was never a PL manager a la Pep, Klopp etc, but someone who had developed and hardened a smaller club with financial constraints and achieved so much despite those constraints. If he were to look at another League one outfit that could cope with the step up (thinking Oxford/Peterborough-sized club), who knows?

[GodIsADeeJay81]

So a manager with several years PL experience, two promotions from the championship, two top 10 finishes and some limited European experience is now expected to start the same process all over again with another club, potentially a former/current League 1 club?

Right......

[boatshed bill]

So a manager with several years PL experience, two promotions from the championship, two top 10 finishes and some limited European experience is now expected to start the same process all over again with another club, potentially a former/current League 1 club?

Right......

Time will tell.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

For me he’s become VERY arrogant. Nothing like when he first arrived when he was very respectful to the media and fans alike. With all these interviews he’s doing, also to get another job touting himself about I don’t think he’s doing himself any good - he just sounds bitter !

That said - he was awesome for us and will be a legend for what he gave us and what he did for us but again, towards the end it became “all about him” like our former captain recently said !

In my opinion he will not get another prem job. He should start again in the Championship or League one and “bring on” or “build” a club again BUT I don’t think his ego or now his perceived arrogance will allow that !

Thanks Again Sean and good luck but we have a new “novice” in charge now who will take us to another level - I’m sure of that !

Arrogant or supremely confident in his abilities?
He's a different man to the one who rocked up here still an unknown entity at the time

He's a PL manager with a decent list of achievements

[clive40golf]

Needs to re-boot in the lower leagues with a project smaller club and gain one/two promotions again before any bigger clubs will consider him. He was never a PL manager a la Pep, Klopp etc, but someone who had developed and hardened a smaller club with financial constraints and achieved so much despite those constraints. If he were to look at another League one outfit that could cope with the step up (thinking Oxford/Peterborough-sized club), who knows?

unbelievable

[jollyjack]

"So a manager with several years PL experience, two promotions from the championship, two top 10 finishes and some limited European experience is now expected to start the same process all over again with another club, potentially a former/current League 1 club?"

If no one in the PL or Championship wants him, that's what I'd do...

[boatshed bill]

Arrogant or supremely confident in his abilities?
He's a different man to the one who rocked up here still an unknown entity at the time

He's a PL manager with a decent list of achievements

Like it not that list of achievements will include 2 relegations (that despite him getting binned before we went down).

[aggi]

I know it's been discussed a million times but I still don't believe that line.

Why? It's hardly an unusual thing to happen.

[Bowclaret]

Again, not doubting what he did for us - it was amazing !

But again, only my opinion, he lost what he preached towards the end i.e. his key core values - respect, hard work, being polite, time keeping etc etc etc especially the respect side.

I remember his press conference before the Brentford away game - it was cringe worthy - every answer was with anger towards the media questions. I remember thinking back then his time was done because he lost them “key core values” that he himself set.

This is what I so much like about Vincent now - he is so so respectful, polite and considered - that earns respect, exactly like Sean was for most of his time with us. It maybe that he was frustrated and I’m sure he was towards the end - but If so, why sign that 4 year contract ?

[arise_sir_charge]

Arrogant or supremely confident in his abilities?
He's a different man to the one who rocked up here still an unknown entity at the time

He's a PL manager with a decent list of achievements

Former PL manager.

[IanMcL]

Not only that but the temporary management actually got more out the side in that last period of games than he did… if it wasn’t for overthinking it in the last few Jackson may well have kept us up.

Not true at all. That set of games was our chance of a lot of points. Started off on target then lost their way. That's where Mr D would have made the difference.

[Quickenthetempo]

So a manager with several years PL experience, two promotions from the championship, two top 10 finishes and some limited European experience is now expected to start the same process all over again with another club, potentially a former/current League 1 club?

Right......

It might seem harsh but I reckon every club in the prem has changed manager since his high spot of Euro football and most of the championship clubs have since he was sacked.

So who's coming in for him?

Southampton have just paid 2.5m compo to Luton for Nathan Jones so it wasn't finance stopping it.

[IanMcL]

Sean Dyche to WHU.

[RVclaret]

Sean Dyche to WHU.

0% chance of this

Ham fans sick of Moyes’ negative football and hate for flair players

[boatshed bill]

Not true at all. That set of games was our chance of a lot of points. Started off on target then lost their way. That's where Mr D would have made the difference.

Apart from the probability that we wouldn't have picked up the points with SD that we got with MJ,, of course.

[warksclaret]

My thoughts are that he will struggle to get a job in the top flight, and feels he has earned one, so will turn down possible jobs in the Championship or below. However I have a fear England will do poorly in the WC, the authorities part with Southgate and Sean will get a position coaching them-not manager but part of the new structure. Was he not involved in the England U-19's after being released by Watford

[clive40golf]

I , like most clarets realise that it was time for SD and his team to move on when they did ( probably best at the end of the season, he would have kept us up, had he stayed on imo ). But that’s all water under the bridge now. We have a new manager, team & training staff, who, I hope in time will supersede SD achievements.
What I can’t understand is the hostility towards the man. With his help we became a Premiership team, and competed against some of the best teams in world club football, and made us some great memories . We can thank him for our state of the art training ground, an infrastructure that other Lancashire clubs can only dream of. And yet some people treat him like some leper. We played some great stuff ( some pretty dour stuff as well) that after some results where we left Turfmoor having beaten the likes of Liverpool, Man City, spurs ect euphoric.
I think the least we could do is to treat the guy with some respect, no treat him like dog dirt.

[jrgbfc]

Not true at all. That set of games was our chance of a lot of points. Started off on target then lost their way. That's where Mr D would have made the difference.

Like Norwich away?