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Striker

Post by Clive 1960 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:24 am

What are people's thoughts on a new striker in January if the money is available or do we stick with what we have.

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Re: Striker

Post by MDWat » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:25 am

Yes, need a striker.

Would love to see us stump up the cash for Gyokeres as think he’d be brilliant in our system but I suspect we’ll send Dervisoglu back and loan another one.
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Re: Striker

Post by HiThere » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:27 am

From a fan's point of view without knowing if Tella is staying then yes, we need one.

All it takes is an injury to Jay and we're fecked.

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Re: Striker

Post by randomclaret2 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:27 am

One of the strugglers in the Prem will go for Gyokeres

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Re: Striker

Post by what_no_pies » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:32 am

Sign a young player that could fill in in the venet Jay wasnt available. No need to upset the apple cart.

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Re: Striker

Post by It Is What It Is » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:39 am

Why fix it when it's not broken?
We have a good honest talented group and goals coming from every position.
We have a good strong squad, the team is a settled group and any new incomings would rock the boat.
New signings yes...but in the summer, we will need adjustment in the EPL.

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Re: Striker

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:39 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:27 am
One of the strugglers in the Prem will go for Gyokeres
I saw in the press today Wolves, Everton and Saints are all going after him, if that is correct then we can absolutely forget him.

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Re: Striker

Post by Commy » Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:02 am

I like Ross Stewart at Sunderland. Seems to be more energetic than Gyokeres and knows where the goal is.
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Re: Striker

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:06 am

We only have two out and out strikers and both well into their 30's
A must have signing required asap to get used to the squad and playing system
A pre season before next year is not enough time especially if we are in the Prem

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Re: Striker

Post by RVclaret » Wed Dec 28, 2022 8:08 am

Clive 1960 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:24 am
What are people's thoughts on a new striker in January if the money is available or do we stick with what we have.
It’s a tough one. Yes we do need a new striker due to the ages of the current ones, and perhaps a different option to them too. But look at our bench last night. If a new striker signs, who’s he moving off the bench? Let alone starting 11.

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Re: Striker

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:04 am

If there's somebody available who we think could do a job for us in the Prem we should definitely be interested.
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Re: Striker

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:23 am

IMO we have a potential fox in the box striker in Anass Zaroury. He has the strong (low centre of gravity) build, he is brave, he is two footed, he has a cool head and the manner he has scored his latest goals tells me he is an efficient and clinical finisher.

I haven’t seen enough of Churlinov or Twine to make a judgment on their qualities as a striker and we know that Zaroury has excellent skills on the wing, but I would love to see Anass played alongside Jay up top.
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Re: Striker

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:28 am

Instead of splashing cash id maybe like to see churlinov or Costelloe play as the number 9 in cup against Bournemouth see how they do

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Re: Striker

Post by BleedingClaret » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:32 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:39 am
I saw in the press today Wolves, Everton and Saints are all going after him, if that is correct then we can absolutely forget him.
If you are deciding, who to sign for, between those 3 and Burnley and your main desire is to be in the Premier League next season then imo we are the best bet.
If however your motivation is more money related then we’re not

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Re: Striker

Post by jedi_master » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:32 am

If a deal can be done for Gyokeres (£10m down, £5m on promotion or some such) - do it. I have said this before, Coventry City are totally brassic right now. They have a takeover that is going nowhere fast with a guy called Doug King who seems a bit of a fantasist and nobody is truly sure of his wealth. It wont be going through any time soon, if indeed it ever does. Callum O'Hare has just done his ACL - this is also key as they would likely have sold one of him or Gyokeres to keep the lights on in January (they were relying on us signing O'Hare before his injury in the summer, in the end they sold Dominic Hyam to Blackburn instead as they needed money in). Gyokeres is out of contract in 18 months. Only possible stumbling block is if he has Premier League suitors, if so, fair enough.

If Gyokeres is a no go, I would consider Joel Piroe from Swansea as a cheaper alternative. Only bagged 6/7 this season after getting 20+ last but he's a good player for sure and suits a footballing side. Good age too.

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Re: Striker

Post by agreenwood » Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:34 am

Jay’s had a quiet few games and, Blackburn aside, Barnes is looking his age.

Unless Twine is seen as an effective option, it would be good to bring in a striker if a deal can be done.

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Re: Striker

Post by claretspice » Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:11 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:34 am
Jay’s had a quiet few games and, Blackburn aside, Barnes is looking his age.

Unless Twine is seen as an effective option, it would be good to bring in a striker if a deal can be done.
We don't need a striker to get over the line this season. Jay is still plenty good enough and whilst he's been short of goals (and clear chances) recently, he's still contributing plenty in his link play and with the space his movement creates. Ashley for my money has come on strong after a slow start to the season - I thought his all round game was excellent at Old Trafford and very good when he came on with purpose last night.

But if we go up, we will need a striker capable of leading the line. We'll also need to strengthen right down the spine to be competitive. If the right striker is available in January as a down-payment on that recruitment, it makes sense to do it. Suspect its as likely we bring in a central midfielder or even centre half, though. What we don't need is another filler player - we should only be active if we're bringing someone of real calibre.
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Re: Striker

Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:21 pm

Another option that wouldn’t cost the earth could be Jerry Yates at Blackpool.

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Re: Striker

Post by dsr » Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:26 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:23 am
IMO we have a potential fox in the box striker in Anass Zaroury. He has the strong (low centre of gravity) build, he is brave, he is two footed, he has a cool head and the manner he has scored his latest goals tells me he is an efficient and clinical finisher.

I haven’t seen enough of Churlinov or Twine to make a judgment on their qualities as a striker and we know that Zaroury has excellent skills on the wing, but I would love to see Anass played alongside Jay up top.
I never like the idea of taking one of the best in the league at his position, and playing him somewhere else.

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Re: Striker

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:34 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:32 am
If a deal can be done for Gyokeres (£10m down, £5m on promotion or some such) - do it. I have said this before, Coventry City are totally brassic right now. They have a takeover that is going nowhere fast with a guy called Doug King who seems a bit of a fantasist and nobody is truly sure of his wealth. It wont be going through any time soon, if indeed it ever does. Callum O'Hare has just done his ACL - this is also key as they would likely have sold one of him or Gyokeres to keep the lights on in January (they were relying on us signing O'Hare before his injury in the summer, in the end they sold Dominic Hyam to Blackburn instead as they needed money in). Gyokeres is out of contract in 18 months. Only possible stumbling block is if he has Premier League suitors, if so, fair enough.

If Gyokeres is a no go, I would consider Joel Piroe from Swansea as a cheaper alternative. Only bagged 6/7 this season after getting 20+ last but he's a good player for sure and suits a footballing side. Good age too.
Good shout for Piroe, fits the Swansea system so should do well in ours. Think Swansea are still short of money so would be interesting to see what price he would be.

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Re: Striker

Post by roperclaret » Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:36 pm

IWOODLOVETT wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 9:23 am
IMO we have a potential fox in the box striker in Anass Zaroury. He has the strong (low centre of gravity) build, he is brave, he is two footed, he has a cool head and the manner he has scored his latest goals tells me he is an efficient and clinical finisher.

I haven’t seen enough of Churlinov or Twine to make a judgment on their qualities as a striker and we know that Zaroury has excellent skills on the wing, but I would love to see Anass played alongside Jay up top.
I really don’t get this. To play alongside Jay you’d need to completely change the set up of the team. Are you advocating going back to 4 4 2??

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Re: Striker

Post by Ampth7 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:48 pm

Quite a few scenarios for VK to consider I think.
1). What if Tella is called back or not!?
2). What if Jay breaks down in one of our next 3/4 games?
3). If either/both of the above scenarios happen, then can VK realistically rely on a Twine or Churlinov to play in some kind of 9 role?
I suspect, assuming the transfers side of the club is being managed well, which I’m sure it is, that we will have contingency plans in place in the form of potential incoming transfers. This will obviously also depend on whether these transfer/loan deals can be agreed or not with their respective clubs without breaking the bank.
Finally, I’m sure VK and company will also be mindful of the question, ‘are these potential new signings capable of the jump up to the Prem, assuming we get there?’

For me, if a deal can be done for Gyokeres, then let’s do it because he looks the perfect fit for us and I believe he can make the step up to the Prem. However, I think it’s unlikely to happen due to supposed prem interest already along with a transfer fee way above what we can afford right now. Therefore, I suspect the Obafemi deal might be more realistic during this window.

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Re: Striker

Post by AfloatinClaret » Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:59 pm

I agree that we'll get promoted irrespective but it would be comforting to have better than AB - irrespective of Blackburn - as backup/replacement for Jay, provided we can find someone at a sensible price, which is unlikely in January, whereas come the summer when several options will be entering the last twelve months of their contracts, sellers may become more amenable. The one cost effective option I can see and which I'd be more than happy with is to see Weghorst return from Turkey

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Re: Striker

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Dec 28, 2022 2:50 pm

there's just as much chance of us signing an unknown from Denmark as there is someone from the Championship and we've already proven the case that the value is abroad......

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Re: Striker

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:09 pm

Would love it if we could sign Undav on loan with a few to buy.

He looks great

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Re: Striker

Post by Cooclaret » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:13 pm

We’re 11 points clear for promotion.

Buy the striker we need for the Premier-league. If he’s not available, think about the opportunity to blood a younger star. If they’re not good enough, buy a prospect.

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Re: Striker

Post by Roosterbooster » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:16 pm

Commy wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 1:02 am
I like Ross Stewart at Sunderland. Seems to be more energetic than Gyokeres and knows where the goal is.
Sunderland fans rave about him. See him as essential to them picking up points

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Re: Striker

Post by 1HappyClaret » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:21 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 12:39 am
I saw in the press today Wolves, Everton and Saints are all going after him, if that is correct then we can absolutely forget him.
Would you go to Premier Clubs who may get relegated in 6 months time or spend 6 months in the Championship and very likely be in the Premier League next season. I know which I would go for.

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Re: Striker

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:25 pm

1HappyClaret wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:21 pm
Would you go to Premier Clubs who may get relegated in 6 months time or spend 6 months in the Championship and very likely be in the Premier League next season. I know which I would go for.
in the history of football I can only rememeber 1 player turning down more money and that was the lad who turned us down to play for Championship Bournemouth because our football was horrific. Now, there may well be more and I 100% get where you are coming from but I would imagine Gyokeres agent would have a conversation along the lines of ' We want 65K per week and a relegation clause'...........

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Re: Striker

Post by Boss Hogg » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:34 pm

We need a striker but that’s it. Could do with Long going and possibly Lowton to free up wages.

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Re: Striker

Post by Spijed » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:38 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:34 pm
We need a striker but that’s it. Could do with Long going and possibly Lowton to free up wages.
For just this season or next?

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Re: Striker

Post by HiThere » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:39 pm

We MUST have one eye on the Premier League. And I'm sure we will. Whoever we bring in, has to be somebody who can make the step up.

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Re: Striker

Post by dougcollins » Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:50 pm

Couple of really good crosses came in on the edge of the six yard box last night, in both cases Jay was nowhere near. He's got a touch of the Kanes at the moment, sterling work between the boxes but not being there to stick the easy ones away.

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Re: Striker

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:01 pm

We have a few players who we could sell in Jan to free up cash and wages. I would bring WW back and sign Tella if Saints will let him go. That would be enough to get us in the Prem. Tella will leave a big hole if Saints recall him

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Re: Striker

Post by HiThere » Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:09 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 3:50 pm
Couple of really good crosses came in on the edge of the six yard box last night, in both cases Jay was nowhere near. He's got a touch of the Kanes at the moment, sterling work between the boxes but not being there to stick the easy ones away.
Kane is one thing. No need to bring Sterling into this. We're not England.

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Re: Striker

Post by SonofPog » Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:25 pm

TBH, we're probably okay as is.

But if we're to buy, I would much rather get a center mid. Some competition for Cullen and Cork. As Westwood fitness still a question mark plus need replacing anyway and Bastien not up to the requirements (as yet).

Up front is where we have the most strength in-depth.

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Re: Striker

Post by Carwin261 » Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:14 pm

Against some of the lesser teams I’d try Tella up front,ok he’s not as tall as Jay,but better ball control,& a hell of a lot quicker.

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Re: Striker

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Dec 29, 2022 7:21 am

SonofPog wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 4:25 pm
TBH, we're probably okay as is.

But if we're to buy, I would much rather get a center mid. Some competition for Cullen and Cork. As Westwood fitness still a question mark plus need replacing anyway and Bastien not up to the requirements (as yet).

Up front is where we have the most strength in-depth.
spot on, we saw against Man Utd we lacked a bit of speed across the ground in the midfield, I'm not sure Bastien is going to be the answer from what we have already. I think there are a few rumours that Westy could be US bound

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Re: Striker

Post by roperclaret » Thu Dec 29, 2022 8:32 am

Carwin261 wrote:
Wed Dec 28, 2022 5:14 pm
Against some of the lesser teams I’d try Tella up front,ok he’s not as tall as Jay,but better ball control,& a hell of a lot quicker.
Sorry just cannot agree with this. This team won’t work with a centre forward who plays on the shoulder looking to get in behind. Sheffield Utd game being a case in point. Our midfield just couldn’t control the game.

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