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by CoolClaret » Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:38 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:14 pm
Always thought that. Like you I’d love to see a one stand type done with the Bob Lord and CFS. Corner filled in. Adds to the atmosphere and feel of the stadium I think. Really like Bramall Lane for that reason.
Yeah even the new disabled stands filling in the corners have added to the atmosphere I believe.
It’s made the ground look more ‘imposing’ if you will - along with the LEDs rather than advertisement boards.
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by Somethingfishy » Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:44 pm
Claretnick wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 2:29 pm
If construction was required during the close season maybe a deal could be structured that Lowerhouse allow Burnley to play on their ground during the cricket season
I'm sure financial sweeteners would help as it would be shame if the Clarets had to move away from Turf Moor.
House 2nds play at home when the 1st team is away. We don't want a drop in standards by allowing Burnley to play instead
...and to be fair our 2nds probably attract a bigger crowd too.
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by aclaretinstevenage » Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:00 pm
ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:57 pm
Upstairs in the away end at QPR is pretty hairy.
Very little room between the rows of seats, almost have to sit sideways and very rickety. Don't like it at all.
Wait until you go to Luton!
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by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:05 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 4:29 pm
It looks like they are the same height and pitch but oddly positioned with the Jimmy Mac off centre, making it hard to turn in to a corner stand. If that’s the case, exceptionally poor design and short-sighted.
I have to say, I don’t like our corner stands, aside from the obvious very important purpose they serve. And I think ALK have made the best of them by adding the curved screens and LED lighting. Sort of making a silk purse out of a sows ear stuff. Otherwise they just look like cheap bolt ons that no other team seem to need to need these to meet the accessibility requirements. I’d have far rather this money went towards more thoughtful redevelopment, but lacked ambition and proper investment imo.
I’m hoping that ALK have now been to Championship grounds and realised that TM is barely competitive with stadia in this league, never mind Premiership standard, and it gets the investment it deserves.
Our disabled provision was appalling prior to the corner stands. They might not look good but they provide the necessary facilities and the required number of disabled places within the ground.
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by Duffer_ » Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:07 pm
OK - move Burnley CC to Lowerhouse CC. You'd think Lowerhouse residents would be happier about supporting a club with the town's name in it. If they aren't happy, for whatever reason, then find some suitable land in Lowerhouse to relocate them. Problem solved.
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by Burnley1989 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:09 pm
Somethingfishy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:44 pm
House 2nds play at home when the 1st team is away. We don't want a drop in standards by allowing Burnley to play instead
...and to be fair our 2nds probably attract a bigger crowd too.
More on the 4ths and I’m not even kidding
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by Somethingfishy » Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:10 pm
Duffer_ wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:07 pm
OK - move Burnley CC to Lowerhouse CC. You'd think Lowerhouse residents would be happier about supporting a club with the town's name in it. If they aren't happy, for whatever reason, then find some suitable land in Lowerhouse to relocate them. Problem solved.
That's fine but we'll incorporate the current Burnley team into our system..they can be our new 3rds.
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by Duffer_ » Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:12 pm
Somethingfishy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:10 pm
..they can be our new 3rds.
Is that Lowerhouse rhyming slang?
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by Claretnick » Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:20 pm
Somethingfishy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 5:44 pm
House 2nds play at home when the 1st team is away. We don't want a drop in standards by allowing Burnley to play instead
...and to be fair our 2nds probably attract a bigger crowd too.
I was being a tad mischievous in my ground sharing suggestion
Maybe Burnley CC could use a spare pitch at Gawthorpe during the summer?
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by NewClaret » Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:33 pm
ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:05 pm
Our disabled provision was appalling prior to the corner stands. They might not look good but they provide the necessary facilities and the required number of disabled places within the ground.
Agreed, and did note the very important purpose they serve.
I just think £10m (or whatever it was), could have been better invested in either one of our massively ageing stands, provided better viewing for disabled supporters and also brought all fans closer together.
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by SouthLondonexile » Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:59 pm
I’ve never been into the CFS.
If it is as crowded as described then please BFC
allow an independent safety inspection on the nights of a full stadium, to assess the situation.
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by elwaclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2023 7:02 pm
I love the Cricket Ground next to the Turf, a reminder of our history and the clubs earliest days every time we pass it, I thought with the previous redesign (Retail park attached) it was sad that that would have to change if it was to go ahead.
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by Rowls » Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:05 pm
I don’t think the CFS is dangerous as reported in the OP but neither is it a modern stand and if we rebuilt it today it should have a higher spec.
It’s not really up to modern standards.
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by Pickles » Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:14 pm
I'd be gutted if we left the Turf.
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by NewClaret » Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:19 pm
Rowls wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:05 pm
I don’t think the CFS is dangerous as reported in the OP but neither is it a modern stand and if we rebuilt it today it should have a higher spec.
It’s not really up to modern standards.
That is being very polite
Wooden seats shouldn’t exist in modern day stadiums. They were talking about replacing it in 2007 and here we are 16 years later…!
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by Wokingclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:24 pm
Nothing wrong with wooden seats unless you rip it out and throw it
Be interesting if Fulham get into Europe, doesn't their listed stand have wooden seats
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by dougcollins » Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:24 pm
Casper2 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:23 pm
Was it used twice ?
No, pretty much a whole season I can remember, around 1970.
And, in terms of comfort, wooden seats are superior to plastic.
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by Wokingclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:26 pm
SouthLondonexile wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:59 pm
I’ve never been into the CFS.
If it is as crowded as described then please BFC
allow an independent safety inspection on the nights of a full stadium, to assess the situation.
Why would we do that, it will have a safety certificate to be in use.
Does need replacing though.
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by Burnley1989 » Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:33 pm
dougcollins wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:24 pm
No, pretty much a whole season I can remember, around 1970.
And, in terms of comfort, wooden seats are superior to plastic.
Never really understood that argument, surely something with a little give is more comfortable?
I sat in the Bob lord for 4-5 years and I’m now back on the plastic seats in another stand, couldn’t really say which is more comfortable but you certainly have more room on the wooden seats (not an issue to me though as I’m small)
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by elwaclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:34 pm
Wokingclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:24 pm
Nothing wrong with wooden seats unless you rip it out and throw it
Be interesting if Fulham get into Europe, doesn't their listed stand have wooden seats
Modern stadium up-fits will be getting wooden seats and getting environmental points for choosing them over plastic, why replace the most generous seating at Turf?
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by thomaspaine » Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:39 pm
Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:33 pm
Never really understood that argument, surely something with a little give is more comfortable?
I sat in the Bob lord for 4-5 years and I’m now back on the plastic seats in another stand, couldn’t really say which is more comfortable but you certainly have more room on the wooden seats (not an issue to me though as I’m small)
I’ve never understood some peoples dislike of wooden seats . More comfortable , last much longer than plastic seats and shouldn’t need replacing every few years …..then there’s the environmental argument ….
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by Spike » Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:45 pm
Everton is much worse! Wooden floor at the back . All on the same level back there not tiered seating. Half time is like being in an air raid shelter
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by elwaclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:52 pm
Spike wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 9:45 pm
Everton is much worse! Wooden floor at the back . All on the same level back there not tiered seating. Half time is like being in an air raid shelter
They’re moving in the summer aren’t they?
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by houseboy » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:14 pm
Confession. I watched the CFS being built in the late 60s when I was first going to games. I have NEVER set foot in it. Strange but true.
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by ClaretEngineer » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:25 pm
The ground footprint of Turf Moor has plenty of scope for redevelopment without needing further land.
There is little point is raising seating capacity extensively because unless we are doing well the ground won’t be full.
For me the cricket club stays where it is and we work with them on a solution that benefits both.
I have to agree that the concourses need major work, not least staff training and stock levels.
Twice now I’ve had the last pie in the stand. There first time almost ended in a riot unsurprising given most of us had queued for the entirety of half time.
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by Rowls » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:27 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 8:19 pm
That is being very polite
Wooden seats shouldn’t exist in modern day stadiums. They were talking about replacing it in 2007 and here we are 16 years later…!
Nothing wrong with wooden seats.
Lack of space and bottle necks are dangerous.
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by elwaclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:31 pm
houseboy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 10:14 pm
Confession. I watched the CFS being built in the late 60s when I was first going to games. I have NEVER set foot in it. Strange but true.
Started going in 1978… saw the milk cup Semi-Final v Liverpool, and against the United Youth where Scholes ran the show… from the CFS and that’s it.
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by ClaretTony » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:06 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 6:33 pm
Agreed, and did note the very important purpose they serve.
I just think £10m (or whatever it was), could have been better invested in either one of our massively ageing stands, provided better viewing for disabled supporters and also brought all fans closer together.
I’m sure it could and the spend was very high given it would only benefit a small number of people. But we were paying the price for ignoring our disabled fans over many years. Legislation now demands you have a minimum number of disabled places, I think it’s over 140 at the Turf, and associated facilities such as proper toilets and changing places.
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by Cardclaret » Sun Jan 15, 2023 11:45 pm
No way plastic is better than wood
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by mybloodisclaret » Mon Jan 16, 2023 12:29 am
I went in the CFS with my dad when we had season tickets together when I was a lad, going back 30 years now. When it reopened to Clarets I moved back in there with my mates, and have sat (stood) in loads of different seats since. I love it in there, feels authentic and to me always with a bit of nostalgia also. When we are all at it, the atmosphere is electric. Me and my mates aren't trouble makers or hooligans, we sing, we shout, we celebrate and we all love it. Match day is special.
That said, the toilets are a joke, the catering even worse. Sad to say it, but it's probably time for a serious upgrade. Doesn't need to be enormous. 6000 safe standing spaces would be fine.
Long live the Cricket Field Stand.
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by Quicknick » Mon Jan 16, 2023 6:48 am
Casper2 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 15, 2023 1:23 pm
Was it used twice ?
Something like that.
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by Quickenthetempo » Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:07 am
Is the netting still up in the CF stand divide?
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by Quicknick » Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:48 am
Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:07 am
Is the netting still up in the CF stand divide?
Looked like it on YouTube.