2022/23: Luton Town v Burnley – Ticket Information

[AGENT_CLARET]

Just glad we don't have a ballot system like some clubs. If you only got one ticket in the ballot and not being able to go with friends/family would ruin the day out.

Now that is bad, at least we don't have this

[Dark Cloud]

I'm actually in favour of the points system. I have to be honest and as someone who has 6000+ it generally tends to favour me, despite the fact that I missed out yesterday largely because I messed up which means I'm gutted, but tbf it does "tend" to reward loyalty, even if it's clearly not perfect. Having said that I believe nobody would be able to devise a system which is flawless or which suits absolutely everybody or which doesn't have anomalies. I'm probably expecting that the points requirements will need to spiral ever upwards and as others have said maybe 7 or 8000 would have made sense for a game like Luton away, but I actually don't know what alternative system would work better.

[MDWat]

My mates had a season ticket at Leeds for years and he says it's impossible to get away tickets. The people at the top buy tickets for games they can't even go to and pass their tickets on, ensuring it stays a closed shop.

My mate is at the top at Leeds and he does exactly this. Can’t afford to go to as many away games having bought a bigger house, but he buys every away ticket and sells on, unless he wants to go.

[Quickenthetempo]

My mate is at the top at Leeds and he does exactly this. Can’t afford to go to as many away games having bought a bigger house, but he buys every away ticket and sells on, unless he wants to go.

All systems are abused.

I have a mate with STs at Old Trafford. Only he has sub let them out for the last 16 years. He doesn't make a profit but has a good chance of getting Cup finals or European aways.
They were good seats that the lad who took them on had no chance of getting, so he says everyone's happy.

[claret wizard]

There’s one or two games a season, Man U and Huddersfield spring to mind recently, where we have this debate. We’re not Leeds selling out every away game, most of our games go to general sale. Whatever way they cut this there will be people missing out because simply there were more people wanting to go than there were tickets. The threshold at 6000 meant that this was available to lots more people, you just had to be VERY organised and lucky. The argument around rolling points doesn’t apply for Luton. We’ll have thousands of 6000 pts plus people. Yes I got a ticket, and I’ve over 10000 points.

[Quickenthetempo]

But lets be honest here, the people who are whinging, are being selfish.

Because the people who got tickets are pretty loyal with over 6k points, not as if they missed out to newcomers.

[aggi]

But it doesn't stop people buying a ticket and passing it on to their mate, grandson or whoever. Don't think you can stop it realistically.
Anyway as you say it's not like it's impossible to watch us away. Even when we're having such a good season most games are getting to general sale.

You can't stop it but it probably happens more due to how the system works.

Because there's no expiry on the points then it's very difficult for a newcomer to catch up (anyone under the age of 16 at Luton for instance is probably on someone else's ticket) so they will end up getting a ticket on someone else's number which will increase the gap and so on.

[jrgbfc]

You can't stop it but it probably happens more due to how the system works.

Because there's no expiry on the points then it's very difficult for a newcomer to catch up (anyone under the age of 16 at Luton for instance is probably on someone else's ticket) so they will end up getting a ticket on someone else's number which will increase the gap and so on.

That's why a rolling points system over 3 years say would reward those who do the most games, and give people a chance to catch up if they put the time and effort in.

[Jjjack]

That's why a rolling points system over 3 years say would reward those who do the most games, and give people a chance to catch up if they put the time and effort in.

Only Huddersfield and Luton have not made it to general sale this season, what needs fixing here?

As always with these sorts of games it's "I don't have enough points to go to the game EVERYBODY wanted to go to", that's how a priority system works, unfortunately it will always be a bit bias towards age, that's just the way it is.

[Rick_Muller]

For the life of me I cant understand the appeal of some of the games that sell out quickly, but this one I recognise that its likely the last time we'll play Luton at their current ground and there's the "I was there" scenario.

For me it's a southern based game that I can get to easily on a weekend so I can take my son, unlike the Millwall game for example, but like I said, dont get the appeal of many of the others that sell out.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Only Huddersfield and Luton have not made it to general sale this season, what needs fixing here?

As always with these sorts of games it's "I don't have enough points to go to the game EVERYBODY wanted to go to", that's how a priority system works, unfortunately it will always be a bit bias towards age, that's just the way it is.

Age has nothing to do with it other than people with 6k points (older fans) buying tickets and passing them on to those well below the 6k total, you could see this at Huddersfield and the same will happen at Luton where kids will be there, one way to stop part of this problem is to only sell ticket's in the age class the points are allocated to so if say grandad uses his points to buy a ticket for his 15 year old grandson then he can only buy a senior citizen priced ticket, it would be interesting to see how many carry on doing this when they are turned away from the turnstile after travelling say all the way to Luton for example because they don't have the correct age bracket ticket

[AGENT_CLARET]

For the life of me I cant understand the appeal of some of the games that sell out quickly, but this one I recognise that its likely the last time we'll play Luton at their current ground and there's the "I was there" scenario.

For me it's a southern based game that I can get to easily on a weekend so I can take my son, unlike the Millwall game for example, but like I said, dont get the appeal of many of the others that sell out.

It's the fantastic brand of football we're playing

[AGENT_CLARET]

But lets be honest here, the people who are whinging, are being selfish.

Because the people who got tickets are pretty loyal with over 6k points, not as if they missed out to newcomers.

No they've missed out to people who don't have 6k point's personally

[Quickenthetempo]

No they've missed out to people who don't have 6k point's personally

You can't say that until the day.

And even then it could only be a few.

[Leisure]

For the life of me I cant understand the appeal of some of the games that sell out quickly, but this one I recognise that its likely the last time we'll play Luton at their current ground and there's the "I was there" scenario.

For me it's a southern based game that I can get to easily on a weekend so I can take my son, unlike the Millwall game for example, but like I said, dont get the appeal of many of the others that sell out.

It's called supporting your team.

[Squazo]

i do think you should get more than ten points for millwall, swansea, norwich etc. thousands will go to wigan and preston but not down south snd get same points

[Rick_Muller]

It's called supporting your team.

I'm specifically referring to the games which on paper don't appeal yet sell out quickly, I though I made that clear in my post. Of course I understand people like to support the team - I am just wanting to understand beyond that for these very limited number of games that sell out.

Simple question really, and no need to be abrasive about it.

[Lancasterclaret]

i do think you should get more than ten points for millwall, swansea, norwich etc. thousands will go to wigan and preston but not down south snd get same points

I think you should get double points for going all over the country when we were totally s**t mate!

[Burnley1989]

But lets be honest here, the people who are whinging, are being selfish.

Because the people who got tickets are pretty loyal with over 6k points, not as if they missed out to newcomers.

I missed out on tickets myself for the first time I can ever remember, cock up between friends and the delay cost us.
Tbf I think there’s only 1-2 actually moaning, most folk understand that you win some and lose some, life’s not always fair.
I’m as gutted as anyone.

[Targetman]

I'm specifically referring to the games which on paper don't appeal yet sell out quickly, I though I made that clear in my post. Of course I understand people like to support the team - I am just wanting to understand beyond that for these very limited number of games that sell out.

Simple question really, and no need to be abrasive about it.

Just trying to answer your question about selling out allocations for games which dont appeal.....

At the moment not only are we top of the league but as I'm sure you are aware we are playing football that people like to watch.
On ocassions we haven't been able to play our fluent, attacking football but have still managed to win or at least avoid defeat.

Fans are travelling away in numbers this season with a spring in their step, because they know even if it's going to be a tough game they is every possibility that we wont lose.

That is why we are selling out much more this season, fans have got their enthusiasm back and want to be there, wherever we are playing to support the team.

I think that's probably what Leisure was alluding to?
It really isn't difficult to understand why we are selling our ticket allocations when everyone now has that 'feel good' factor.

[quoonbeatz]

The loyalty system works very well as it is with the 6k points threshold. Keeping it set at this level means it rewards long term expenditure with the club and opens it out to more fans year on year and becomes more inclusive. Quite why some want to make it a closed shop I don't know. Well, we do all know really...

I wouldnt have a problem with priority being simplified and going back to ST holders them general sale. It would make things much fairer for most people.

[Rick_Muller]

It really isn't difficult to understand why we are selling our ticket allocations when everyone now has that 'feel good' factor.

Like I said, I get that. I am trying to find out why certain away games are deemed more appealing than others though, when on paper it isn't. We have only failed to get to general sale for Huddersfield and Luton so far, and for both of these games I can understand the abnormal demand - Huddersfield was the first away game for the new regime, so I get that; and Luton are moving to a new ground soon and its the last chance to visit the historic away end at Luton, so I also understand that.

Essentially I am trying to figure out what it is about other games that too will not get to general sale for away support, simply asking for other reasons than "we're good now", I hope that make sense. Just thought it would be a good discussion, that's all. Apologies for being misunderstood.

[Leisure]

I'm specifically referring to the games which on paper don't appeal yet sell out quickly, I though I made that clear in my post. Of course I understand people like to support the team - I am just wanting to understand beyond that for these very limited number of games that sell out.

Simple question really, and no need to be abrasive about it.

Abrasive! I was simply answering your question.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Anyone’s tickets turned up today? 6 of my 10 have….

[jedi_master]

Anyone’s tickets turned up today? 6 of my 10 have….

Yes our two came.

Bizarrely, our two for Ipswich didn’t (bought at the same time), which is slightly more of a pressing matter

[claretonthecoast1882]

Anyone’s tickets turned up today? 6 of my 10 have….

No, 6 ordered non arrived. Much prefer that than some of them

Without you saying you had received some I would have been expecting them in a few weeks

[bfcbri]

Age has nothing to do with it other than people with 6k points (older fans) buying tickets and passing them on to those well below the 6k total, you could see this at Huddersfield and the same will happen at Luton where kids will be there, one way to stop part of this problem is to only sell ticket's in the age class the points are allocated to so if say grandad uses his points to buy a ticket for his 15 year old grandson then he can only buy a senior citizen priced ticket, it would be interesting to see how many carry on doing this when they are turned away from the turnstile after travelling say all the way to Luton for example because they don't have the correct age bracket ticket

This is how the ticket system works, if you have a season ticket and 6000 points then when you go to buy a ticket you can only buy it for the category you are in, so if you are a senior citizen you can only buy a senior citizen ticket. At least that is what it does for me

[Burnley1989]

This is how the ticket system works, if you have a season ticket and 6000 points then when you go to buy a ticket you can only buy it for the category you are in, so if you are a senior citizen you can only buy a senior citizen ticket. At least that is what it does for me

I’ve had to buy adults tickets for my daughter for away games this season so I could get her one with me using an aunties points who doesn’t go away.

Just so nobody starts crying about it, she didn’t go Huddersfield and isn’t going Luton.

[Rick_Muller]

Abrasive! I was simply answering your question.

apologies, I thought your response was quite blunt and I would have thought supporting the team would be an obvious reason that didn't need stating.

[123EasyasBFC]

I have 8,000 points and by time I logged on at 10:15 they had sold out, there will be hundreds with more than 6k points that weren’t able to get tickets

[aggi]

This is how the ticket system works, if you have a season ticket and 6000 points then when you go to buy a ticket you can only buy it for the category you are in, so if you are a senior citizen you can only buy a senior citizen ticket. At least that is what it does for me

It defaults to that but you can change the category and update the basket.

[MACCA]

My mates had a season ticket at Leeds for years and he says it's impossible to get away tickets. The people at the top buy tickets for games they can't even go to and pass their tickets on, ensuring it stays a closed shop.

Hardly impossible, theh didn't sell out v Cardiff away in FA cup

I get what you mean though, probably even more difficult for their fans

[ClaretInLeeds]

Yeah, they only took 6500 on a Sunday.

[bfcmik]

I wouldnt have a problem with priority being simplified and going back to ST holders them general sale. It would make things much fairer for most people.

The problem is that we have way more season tickets than we get allocated tickets. So Why not prioritise fans with longer purchase histories? I 'only' have 5500 points so I completely missed out for a Luton ticket but that is the 1st time I can recall not being able to get a ticket for a game I wanted to see.

If you don't have current season ticket it wouldn't matter if you had 30,000 points!

[Granny WeatherWax]

It’s pretty simple - something like prioritise on season ticket and 2 year rolling away ticket history.

Our lot can’t even stick tickets in envelopes though so don’t expect them to administer a more complex loyalty system.

[ClaretInLeeds]

If Luton had a bigger ground, there wouldn’t be an issue.

Been times in recent years where we haven’t sold out local games, so people can’t complain now.

[AGENT_CLARET]

When did the points system start

[Rileybobs]

With the infrequency in which tickets sell out before they go on general sale it really is difficult to understand what the problem with the current system is.

[MACCA]

With the infrequency in which tickets sell out before they go on general sale it really is difficult to understand what the problem with the current system is.

There isn't one, it's judt some believe it's their right to be first for everything and never miss out.

Shame more aren't like the poster above who missed out and though oh well my problem , better luck next time, rather than trying to find someone to blame, or think there's "a problem" just because they didn't get the desired results.

And 99% of the time is their own fault through lack of effort/planning

Talk about self righteous.

[Granny WeatherWax]

There isn't one, it's judt some believe it's their right to be first for everything and never miss out.

Shame more aren't like the poster above who missed out and though oh well my problem , better luck next time, rather than trying to find someone to blame, or think there's "a problem" just because they didn't get the desired results.

And 99% of the time is their own fault through lack of effort/planning

Talk about self righteous.

What a load of ********. I’ve not missed out but I think there’s a better way it could be done.

[chipbutty]

This is how the ticket system works, if you have a season ticket and 6000 points then when you go to buy a ticket you can only buy it for the category you are in, so if you are a senior citizen you can only buy a senior citizen ticket. At least that is what it does for me

Not correct.
Unless it's recently changed, as long as the season ticket and points requirement is met, then you can buy an adults ticket with a child's allowance and vice versa.

[Granny WeatherWax]

Not correct.
Unless it's recently changed, as long as the season ticket and points requirement is met, then you can buy an adults ticket with a child's allowance and vice versa.

Correct, always been the case.

[chipbutty]

This is how the ticket system works, if you have a season ticket and 6000 points then when you go to buy a ticket you can only buy it for the category you are in, so if you are a senior citizen you can only buy a senior citizen ticket. At least that is what it does for me

What are BFC going to do when there's over 10k supporters with 6000 plus points?

[ClaretInLeeds]

It probably won’t matter as we won’t be in the same division as Luton.

[bfcmik]

What are BFC going to do when there's over 10k supporters with 6000 plus points?

Do what they did when 4000 got be be not enough to control demand - create a new group level. I notice than the 2000 point band disappeared for the Luton and Millwall ticket announcements, wonder if this is a indicator of a new 8000 point priority level.

[claret wizard]

What are BFC going to do when there's over 10k supporters with 6000 plus points?

Put the threshold up to 8k?

[chipbutty]

Put the threshold up to 8k?

Fine by me

[Rileybobs]

What are BFC going to do when there's over 10k supporters with 6000 plus points?

Obviously they could raise the threshold. But how would it make a difference if 10,000 people had 6000+ loyalty points?

[AGENT_CLARET]

You could raise it to 14k points and it wouldn't make a difference to all the one's with hardly any point's that get them from relatives who do, I don't have the answer but the point system is useless and this is from someone who has10k plus

[HitchinClaret]

I'm just going in the home end, will be wearing colours and be safe as I'm going along with a big group of Luton fans