BPF

[Milltown1882]

He’s consistently poor for NI, awful again tonight. Hope VK moves on from this experiment and Muric is back in at the weekend. A new backup GK/one to push Muric is surely high on the shopping list this summer.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Not a huge fan of his but was he awful tonight??

[ClaretsPadiham]

I’d get Brian Jensen back on a one season deal for next season.

[Middle-agedClaret]

Not a huge fan of his but was he awful tonight??

No.

[Bosscat]

Not a huge fan of his but was he awful tonight??

No

[elwaclaret]

No

[grapidianclaret]

No

[CoolClaret]

I’d get Brian Jensen back on a one season deal for next season.

Along with Dean West & Mo Camara for some proper traditional full backs, non of this new-age mumbo jumbo

[NRC]

What I would say is that he was outsmarted by the guy who played up against him. This guy crouch down until the corner was about to come across so that BPF and he could not push and shove. This had the effect of taking himself out of line of sight of the referee, so that when the ball was in play, he was not being watched in particular. He did it for the whole game.

[fatboy47]

Not a huge fan of his but was he awful tonight??

No

[Buxtonclaret]

I’d get Brian Jensen back on a one season deal for next season.

He'd need two testimonials then.

[Down_Rover]

What I would say is that he was outsmarted by the guy who played up against him. This guy crouch down until the corner was about to come across so that BPF and he could not push and shove. This had the effect of taking himself out of line of sight of the referee, so that when the ball was in play, he was not being watched in particular. He did it for the whole game.

Spot on. My analysis too. BPF fell hook line and sinker for the set play for their first goal.

Why wasn’t Vitinho on the back post to cover the i swinger to the back

[KRBFC]

He conceded directly from a corner and still got 7s on the player ratings, people really willing him to succeed to spite Muric.

That second goal looked soft to me, he’d have stopped it from going in if he stood up and kicked it away instead he dived over it and made a mess of it.

He’s been fine this season but tonight he conceded two incredibly soft goals

[TsarBomba]

He conceded directly from a corner and still got 7s on the player ratings, people really willing him to succeed to spite Muric.

That second goal looked soft to me, he’d have stopped it from going in if he stood up and kicked it away instead he dived over it and made a mess of it.

He’s been fine this season but tonight he conceded two incredibly soft goals

I’d like to see their first again.

Conceding the second had nothing to do with BPF.

Rotherham’s second was a carbon copy of our second at Boro, and I don’t recall anybody saying Steffens should have saved that.

[Enola Gay]

The goalkeeping for the first goal looked awfully like the kind of goalkeeping Muric got pelters for at Bramhall Lane...

[KRBFC]

I’d like to see their first again.

Conceding the second had nothing to do with BPF.

Rotherham’s second was a carbon copy of our second at Boro, and I don’t recall anybody saying Steffens should have saved that.

The second Goes in the middle of the goal

[CrosspoolClarets]

The goalkeeping for the first goal looked awfully like the kind of goalkeeping Muric got pelters for at Bramhall Lane...

It was, and as it turned out I was only yards behind our goal on both occasions.

The Muric one was chaos but we didn’t concede many in that way, the chaos was mainly first half and their goals were mainly second half. I agree the BPF one tonight was equally soft, but Muric has his other attributes to fall back on, a bit like Pope’s weak feet is offset by his superb solidity. I’m not sure what BPF strength is at the level we are at.

[Herts Clarets]

Spot on. My analysis too. BPF fell hook line and sinker for the set play for their first goal.

Why wasn’t Vitinho on the back post to cover the i swinger to the back

He was. He put the ball in the net, it wasn't direct from a corner.

[boatshed bill]

The goalkeeping for the first goal looked awfully like the kind of goalkeeping Muric got pelters for at Bramhall Lane...

Foul wasn't it?

[arise_sir_charge]

We are noticeably less threatening with BPF in goal.

The slowness of his distribution was infuriating last night. He changes the entire dynamic of our team.

Muric back in please.

[Lancasterclaret]

Seen the goal again and I think he was fouled

He has to be stronger no doubt, but he's essentially barged out of the way by two Rotherham attackers

Thought his distribution was ok as well, but whether its enough to be back up in the prem is up the manager

[RVclaret]

We are noticeably less threatening with BPF in goal.

The slowness of his distribution was infuriating last night. He changes the entire dynamic of our team.

Muric back in please.

Fully agree. His distribution isn't exactly 'bad', but like I was explaining to folk earlier in the season, it's not about having the ability to just make a simple pass here and there, like others suggested a keeper needed to do - it's also about having the vision of where players are (before the ball arrives), the clarity of thought and then the speed to make the pass quickly.

BPF has earned a move to at least the Championship next season and has been a fine understudy this season, but it's no surprise VK is scouting new keepers for this system. I'm also hoping Muric is back in for Saturday, deserves to be in there for the title winning game and also to get his eye in for the B@stards game.

[Hapag Lloyd]

He conceded directly from a corner and still got 7s on the player ratings, people really willing him to succeed to spite Muric

Exactly the same as a certain poster giving him a 3, willing him to fail because of their blind faith in Muric.

[agreenwood]

He’s not as good as Muric, but I think we all knew that didn’t we?

[Woodleyclaret]

Vinnie is watching other keppers and I think wants to get an honest assessment of BPFs worth
Last night he conceded two soft goals and Muric will return now on.

[Down_Rover]

Foul wasn't it?

You might think so, I certainly do

But BPF should realise that you only get a free kick if the referee sees it and agrees with us

[Murger]

Struggling to see how any of them goals are the keepers fault.

[Rileybobs]

I think we all knew that BPF wasn't going to be good enough for the Premier League. He's been fine when called upon this season for the main reason that our goalkeepers don't have to make a lot of saves. His use of the ball last night was decent but both goals were pretty soft from a goalkeeping but mainly defensive perspective, and a throwback to the early stage of the season when we were conceding goals whenever faced with the tiniest bit of pressure. I'm also not sure whether the first was a foul having seen it back. We are certain to sign another goalkeeper and it will be interesting to see whether VK sees him as a first choice or someone to provide stronger competition for Muric.

[warksclaret]

Not up to PL standard so time to go-he was appalling v Man City recently. THe standard of keeping in the PL is exceptional-yes we need a new one as all teams in the PL have two good ones

[Down_Rover]

He was. He put the ball in the net, it wasn't direct from a corner.

Vitinho was not on back post. He was towards edge of 6 yard box and moved towards the post after the corner was taken.

Had he been on the post he would have been facing the game and able to clear

Poor from him and BPF

[IanMcL]

He was. He put the ball in the net, it wasn't direct from a corner.

Yes Vitinho O/G.

[SalisburyClaret]

The first was an obvious foul. The second, their striker was unmarked, nearly in the 6 yard box - and yet it’s BPF who gets the blame?

[martin_p]

The first was an obvious foul. The second, their striker was unmarked, nearly in the 6 yard box - and yet it’s BPF who gets the blame?

He might not have been fouled had any of our defenders attempted to get to the ball. There seemed to be three Rotherham players around BPF and none of our defenders! A poorly defended corner and certainly not all on BPF.

[Lancasterclaret]

The first was an obvious foul. The second, their striker was unmarked, nearly in the 6 yard box - and yet it’s BPF who gets the blame?

The 2nd was a terrible goal from our point of view

Poor header from Al Dakhill, Maatsen not closing down the cross and then two Burnley players marking one Rotherham one and leaving the goal scorer on his own

Beyer absolutely furious after it, and rightly so as he's cutting out the ball into the middle, but not good enough from anyone else

[Steve1956]

Aye blame someone who wasn't to blame,to be honest the last couple of games we have been as shite as the rest of this division is,surprising what happens when you take out a couple of your best players.

[Firthy]

The 2nd was a terrible goal from our point of view

Poor header from Al Dakhill, Maatsen not closing down the cross and then two Burnley players marking one Rotherham one and leaving the goal scorer on his own

Beyer absolutely furious after it, and rightly so as he's cutting out the ball into the middle, but not good enough from anyone else

Poor header that fell to a Rotherham player. To be fair it was a good goal nice accurate cross and well taken by the striker. BPF wasn't in anyway to blame for that goal. IMO it was Maatsen who was at fault, instead of running towars the goal he should have run straight towards the player to close him down and prevent the cross, instead it looked like he ran to cut out the cross and left a player unmarked behing him who scored.

[Lancasterclaret]

Poor header that fell to a Rotherham player. To be fair it was a good goal nice accurate cross and well taken by the striker. BPF wasn't in anyway to blame for that goal. IMO it was Maatsen who was at fault, instead of running towars the goal he should have run straight towards the player to close him down and prevent the cross, instead it looked like he ran to cut out the cross and left a player unmarked behing him who scored.

I should have mentioned that I don't blame BPF for the 2nd goal, and I think he was fouled for the 1st (though he probably has to be stronger)

[KRBFC]

Skip to 9 mins for a great view of the 2nd goal, I think any goalkeeper is disappointed to concede that.

https://youtu.be/9t6lkGr45Vs

[KRBFC]

Nick Pope saves that by standing there and clearing it with his feet IMO, straight down the middle of the goal and not a whole lot of power

[Claret53]

With VAR the first goal would have been disallowed. It’s amazing that an allegedly elite referee didn’t spot the barging into BPF.

[nil_desperandum]

Vitinho was not on back post. He was towards edge of 6 yard box and moved towards the post after the corner was taken.

Had he been on the post he would have been facing the game and able to clear

Poor from him and BPF

But we don't have men on the posts do we?
(Something that we've commented on frequently)
So it's a coaching / managerial choice, not down to the player.
[As it happens I like players on both posts, but I'm not going to say that VK is wrong]

[gandhisflipflop]

BPF has been a decent understudy to muric this season and has done well in that role when called upon. Last night wasn’t one of his better performances and felt for the first goal he wasn’t commanding enough but perhaps it’s a bit harsh as a few players made errors here, but the second I felt he should have been saving.

I’m not going to scapegoat him though because he has done well as previously mentioned however I think in the PL, we will need to reinforce this area and that may mean BPF moving on.

[arise_sir_charge]

I think we all knew that BPF wasn't going to be good enough for the Premier League. He's been fine when called upon this season for the main reason that our goalkeepers don't have to make a lot of saves. His use of the ball last night was decent but both goals were pretty soft from a goalkeeping but mainly defensive perspective, and a throwback to the early stage of the season when we were conceding goals whenever faced with the tiniest bit of pressure. I'm also not sure whether the first was a foul having seen it back. We are certain to sign another goalkeeper and it will be interesting to see whether VK sees him as a first choice or someone to provide stronger competition for Muric.

His user of the ball wasn’t decent, it is probably best described as basic.

Slow, ponderous and lacking in anything other than being ‘safe’.

I’d not necessarily blame him for the goals but I think it’s notable that we don’t control games anything like we do when we have Muric in goal.

[Spijed]

With VAR the first goal would have been disallowed. It’s amazing that an allegedly elite referee didn’t spot the barging into BPF.

We did exactly the same with Barnes and Cork on opposition goalkeepers and got away with it many times.

[Rileybobs]

His user of the ball wasn’t decent, it is probably best described as basic.

Slow, ponderous and lacking in anything other than being ‘safe’.

I’d not necessarily blame him for the goals but I think it’s notable that we don’t control games anything like we do when we have Muric in goal.

I thought he passed the ball around fine, he certainly played a few risky passes which were anything but safe and his slow, ponderous style is similar to that of Muric which is clearly an instruction in attempt to draw the opposition into a press which often works to great effect.

We look a better team with Muric, without a doubt - but I don't think it's the case that we don't control games anything like as well with BPF. Our last two 'under-performances' have been little to do with the goalkeeper's effect on the game but a general drop off in intensity and a result of a significant weakening of our starting eleven.

[dougcollins]

The corner was poor from a number of players, though BPF didn't cover himself in glory.

The second goal I have no issue with him, rank bad defending from us.

[JohnMac]

BPF wasn't responsible for either goal and on another day may have got a free kick for their first. Vitinho on the back post for the 1st was flummoxed and only allowed it to bounce off him into the net.

[KRBFC]

BPF wasn't responsible for either goal and on another day may have got a free kick for their first. Vitinho on the back post for the 1st was flummoxed and only allowed it to bounce off him into the net.

If Vitinho wasn’t on the line, Peacock Farrell conceded directly from a corner kick, how can he not be responsible.

[JR1882]

He is just a solid Championship keeper, nothing spectacular and playing him instead of Muric isn’t going to change that.

Muric has been integral to how we play this season however there remains a big question mark over him too for next season. He won’t get the same time on the ball and he’s got a mistake in him even at this level. VK may go with him again but as a minimum we need someone to challenge as a number 1 which BPF isn’t capable of doing.

[arise_sir_charge]

I thought he passed the ball around fine, he certainly played a few risky passes which were anything but safe and his slow, ponderous style is similar to that of Muric which is clearly an instruction in attempt to draw the opposition into a press which often works to great effect.

We look a better team with Muric, without a doubt - but I don't think it's the case that we don't control games anything like as well with BPF. Our last two 'under-performances' have been little to do with the goalkeeper's effect on the game but a general drop off in intensity and a result of a significant weakening of our starting eleven.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one.