Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:21 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:45 am
I am not too worried as I think our squad is good enough to get through the first few games.

However I will say your comparison is silly for two reasons. The championship as we discovered was a considerably lower level than the prem and there is a lot more games (so you have more chances to make up for a poor start).

I think by "silly" you mean "of limited value" or "inappropriate". "Silly" makes it sound like you're being abusive rather than politely disagreeing.

Last year we had 7 fixtures before the transfer deadline, this year only 3. Any anyway, the point was that 5 weeks isn't the deadline for good things to happen.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:23 pm

Cov looking at buying McNally with the Gyokeres sale money (Nixon)

eastcoastclaret · Post by **eastcoastclaret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:37 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:23 pm
Cov looking at buying McNally with the Gyokeres sale money (Nixon)

Let's hope we add a decent sell on percentage. I suspect his value will rise significantly above what we sell him for.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:39 pm

eastcoastclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:37 pm
Let's hope we add a decent sell on percentage. I suspect his value will rise significantly above what we sell him for.

Absolutely agree. No reason he can’t reach Souttar levels who went for £15m.

Let’s hope we get a decent fee and a good sell on %.

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:42 pm

Lots of talk on this thread about resale value for Trafford in the coming years, there is a chance that he fulfills his contract with us in full - becomes a hell of a player and we keep him for many years to come. I'm looking up not down!

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:55 pm

Agree but remember, by our own admission, we’re playing moneyball now. Big returns on players within a season or two. I suspect we’ll sell Benson and Zaroury for example, for big money within the next thirteen months.

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:04 pm

Another centre half

https://sportwitness.co.uk/burnley-star ... youngster/

whiffa · Post by **whiffa** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:05 pm

Yeah and I fully appreciate that's been the philosophy of the club for many years - it's kept us in the good financial position we're in. However there is still a chance we see continued success under Kompany and may not as a result have such a need to sell high and buy low. It's nice to dream

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:13 pm

boyyanno wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:04 pm
Another centre half

https://sportwitness.co.uk/burnley-star ... youngster/

OMG. An actual transfer rumour.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:20 pm

boyyanno wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:04 pm
Another centre half

https://sportwitness.co.uk/burnley-star ... youngster/

Just watched a YouTube video of him. He looks fantastic but my extensive scouting has concluded that we want him more as a defensive midfielder.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 1:47 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:45 am
I am not too worried as I think our squad is good enough to get through the first few games.

However I will say your comparison is silly for two reasons. The championship as we discovered was a considerably lower level than the prem and there is a lot more games (so you have more chances to make up for a poor start).

Once we really got our act together we were comfortably the best side in the Championship (some pundits even had us as one the best ever). And players can improve, they've had a year with VK.

Darnhill Claret · Post by **Darnhill Claret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 2:31 pm

Perhaps we are becoming a 'centre half factory', selling one a season, with the replacements already in house.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 4:07 pm

jdrobbo wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 12:55 pm
Agree but remember, by our own admission, we’re playing moneyball now. Big returns on players within a season or two. I suspect we’ll sell Benson and Zaroury for example, for big money within the next thirteen months.

We also know that each place in the PL pays millions more so it may not be as cut and dried as that.

Keep good players for 2-3 years more, possibly get £30m-£40m more prize money over 3 seasons, then the player still has a resale value before their contract lapses. That could easily be the best policy.

Every player has a price of course, and may also want to go.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:24 pm

24m for Gyokeres. Wow.

jtv · Post by **jtv** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:43 pm

Blyclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:24 pm
24m for Gyokeres. Wow.

By whom?

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:55 pm

Coventry City have agreed a deal worth over £20m with Sporting CP for Viktor Gyokeres.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/finan ... an-outfit/

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:03 pm

HahaYeah wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:55 pm
Coventry City have agreed a deal worth over £20m with Sporting CP for Viktor Gyokeres.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/finan ... an-outfit/

I am glad we weren’t interested at that price.

He suits that style of league better than the prem to be honest.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:04 pm

HahaYeah wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:55 pm
Coventry City have agreed a deal worth over £20m with Sporting CP for Viktor Gyokeres.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/finan ... an-outfit/

If Cov want McNally as is being reported we can now pull their pants down, like other clubs do to us. £5m plus or go away

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:04 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:04 pm
If Cov want McNally as is being reported we can now pull their pants down, like other clubs do to us. £5m plus or go away

Absolute minimum...

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:05 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:04 pm
If Cov want McNally as is being reported we can now pull their pants down, like other clubs do to us. £5m plus or go away

Plus add ons .

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:06 pm

randomclaret2 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:04 pm
Absolute minimum...

£8m please

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:07 pm

PLUS PER CENTAGE OF ANY SELL ON FEE/PROFIT

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:07 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:03 pm
I am glad we weren’t interested at that price.

He suits that style of league better than the prem to be honest.

Absolutely agree. Very good player, not a great finisher imo.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:08 pm

jtv wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 9:43 pm
By whom?

Fab

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:36 pm

McNally could end up at Millwall as a makeweight in the Zian Flemming deal.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/zian- ... to-happen/

Claret Toni · Post by **Claret Toni** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:39 pm

I thought Ellis Simms was being lined up to replace Gyokeres, but looks like he's gone to Derby.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:41 pm

Claret Toni wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:39 pm
I thought Ellis Simms was being lined up to replace Gyokeres, but looks like he's gone to Derby.

??? He’s joined Cov ???

Swizzlestick · Post by **Swizzlestick** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:42 pm

Claret Toni wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:39 pm
I thought Ellis Simms was being lined up to replace Gyokeres, but looks like he's gone to Derby.

Coventry have just signed him.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:49 pm

HahaYeah wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 10:36 pm
McNally could end up at Millwall as a makeweight in the Zian Flemming deal.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/zian- ... to-happen/

One of the worst-written articles I've read.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:28 am

Coulibaly done according to Romano. Loan with mandatory buy worth £15m.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:31 am

Mandatory fee. That’s certainly interesting. Got to trust VK with this one I think. He had next to no professional football and that’s a very good fee

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:41 am

Morning Newcastle-yes with you on this we need to trust VK. He must think Coulibaly is close to starting. He could be the next Chris Smalling playing for Maidstone, with Fulham and Man Utd seeing the potential in him. He's not done too badly since being spotted

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:42 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:31 am
Mandatory fee. That’s certainly interesting. Got to trust VK with this one I think. He had next to no professional football and that’s a very good fee

Be interesting to see what the transfer fee is, total package £15mil so like how much is the loan fee is and if there’s add ons in the transfer fee

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:05 am

On the face of it Coulibaly seems a slightly odd one. 19, 2 senior games, centre back when we’ve got 4, loan, joint club record fee next summer (I take it this would only be payable if we stay up, can’t us committing to 15m if relegated but never know!).

But, I’m sure Vincent has a plan and hard not to be excited to see what it is. Potentially a Charlie Taylor replacement? (Back up left back and centre back)… Get him up to speed this season with the assumption we might cash in on the likes of Al-Dakhil / Beyer next summer?

RicardoMontalban · Post by **RicardoMontalban** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:13 am

‘Total package’ leaves something to interpretation but my take would be loan fee + transfer fee + bonuses. Even so you’d imagine he’s going to play a big part for that sort of money.

lizardlad · Post by **lizardlad** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:23 am

Could be used as a defensive midfielder to replace Cork?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:34 am

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 8:42 am
Be interesting to see what the transfer fee is, total package £15mil so like how much is the loan fee is and if there’s add ons in the transfer fee

The suggestion this morning is that the 15m is just the transfer fee (doesn’t include loan terms)

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:35 am

The key things I have read about him are that he is left footed, robust, strong, quick, young and considered to be a very good prospect.All positive factors. As has been said on here, we might see the team going 3 centre halves for a number of games which could suit us with the personnel we now have in these positions. Also since the end of the recent season, VK has made a point of addressing the physicality issue for the Prem, and we dont part with any serious money until next year, which of course could then be in installments.Clever business by the club

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:52 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:34 am
The suggestion this morning is that the 15m is just the transfer fee (doesn’t include loan terms)

Where is this suggestion?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:53 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:52 am
Where is this suggestion?

Saw a German reporter commenting on it. Il try find it

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:08 am

Burnley and Sheffield United in race to sign Man United sensation Amad Diallo (Football Insider)

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:16 am

ervi34 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:08 am
Burnley and Sheffield United in race to sign Man United sensation Amad Diallo (Football Insider)

After his performances at Sunderland last season I thought Man U would want him around their first team.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:22 am

ervi34 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:08 am
Burnley and Sheffield United in race to sign Man United sensation Amad Diallo (Football Insider)

This is one I mentioned early this summer as a possible Tella replacement.

Diallo on loan and spend 15-20m on 1/2 other players or Tella for 15-20m.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:16 am

Nathan Tella had a far more productive season than Diallo

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:21 am

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:16 am
Nathan Tella had a far more productive season than Diallo

But in a much better team so not necessarily a true comparison.

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:25 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:34 am
The suggestion this morning is that the 15m is just the transfer fee (doesn’t include loan terms)

Oh really, I thought Romano said total package £15mil

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:29 am

Diallo had a few good games but to talk him up on those is a bit premature
If Sheffield United want to spend money let them
If we are getting Premier league loans, of which we are allowed 2 I would go for THB and Ian Maatsen
Nathan Tella need to be a permanent signing.

Goobs · Post by **Goobs** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:58 am

Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:29 am
Diallo had a few good games but to talk him up on those is a bit premature
If Sheffield United want to spend money let them
If we are getting Premier league loans, of which we are allowed 2 I would go for THB and Ian Maatsen
Nathan Tella need to be a permanent signing.

Another CB? Really?

andyh · Post by **andyh** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:59 am

Goobs wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 11:58 am
Another CB? Really?

As good as THB is I think we can safely say he won’t be with us next season. Good luck to him wherever he goes.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:12 pm

ervi34 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 10:08 am
Burnley and Sheffield United in race to sign Man United sensation Amad Diallo (Football Insider)

Come on Sheffield