Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Commy]

Anyone else just get a notification from the Official Twitter account saying "2023 Squad List Official Announcement", which was then immediately deleted?
Would suggest we already have our set squad list sorted? Or do we think this can be adjusted again after tomorrow's game?

Looks like Burnley Express got it

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... on-4251303

[martin_p]

Looks like Burnley Express got it

https://www.burnleyexpress.net/sport/fo ... on-4251303

Do we read anything into no one being assigned the 23 shirt?

[TheFamilyCat]

Do we read anything into no one being assigned the 23 shirt?

We've retired it.

[burnmark]

The squad numbers are on the official site.

[Spijed]

But he’ll live off his own personal scoring record in the Premier League.

No one can take away the achievement of winning a trophy (something he won't) do at Spurs.

But even if he breaks goalscoring records someone in future will break his records and in years to come he'll have nothing to show for his career, where other world class players will have a glittering list of honours.

He'll have bugger all.

[JimmyRobbo]

Interesting that the official twitter feed for selling our GK top didn't have Muric on it.
Might mean absolutely nothing but had Trafford, Vigouroux and the women's keeper.

Seems strange not to have him included at all.

[Childzy]

If you look hard enough you can read owt into owt…

[spt_claret]

I agree with the shapes/systems and said to my friends earlier in the season when Pep adopted that 3-2-4-1 / 2-3-4-1 in possession that we’ve come full circle from the formations of yesteryear, albeit now just done with more analysis / data.

Give it another few years and there will be a coach rocking a 4-4-2 winning the UCL/WC and that will be the thing back in fashion - heck look at how the Mou made everyone play a 4-3-3 or the German team in 2014 play 4-2-3-1 or Conte bringing wing backs and 3 at the back back to the PL (no one had played three at the back for a good 15+ seasons).

In stark contrast to these new fluid styles is Emery and Villa, ultra ultra organised and rigid with positioning but it works for him and has had success with it - just shows there’s more than one way to skin a cat no matter what’s currently ‘in fashion’.

It happens in the NFL as well things are very circular, one offense will come into fruition then everyone tries it efc till one team has success doing it a different way then everyone tries to copy to keep up / adapt.

For example the NFL is pass heavy now and teams are loading up on receivers/defensive backs… one team will come through and have a tone of success with a heavy old school run game and then that will be the rage again.

With regards to transfers and fees I too err on the side of caution re leveraging loans/all the PL money to try and make big returns on player sales… all I’ll say is that as long as we have Kompany or similar that can develop young players we will be ok - but it is an extremely risky strategy

Agree with all of this and was thinking of Mourinho myself. When he was at Chelsea everyone wanted to play the midfield diamond, when he switched to 433 so did everyone else and it was the 'perfect system'.
In a different vein I think it's something Dyche is underrated on- we didn't play the same 442 tactics/setup the entire time under him. When were in the Championship, both times but especially winning it, we played a very German pressing game before most teams were doing it. When we made Europe, we played what was almost textbook catenaccio but with fast breaking and counterattacking- Arfield sat in the grey zone between a winger and a midfielder in a position I couldn't figure out how to describe until I heard the term mezzala, various players including even Hendrick played the offset forward role slightly behind the main striker.
Formations that look broadly the same under a number system can be very different in practice, just like how tactics that are hard to categorise numerically, like Guardiola's, become easier to understand when you look at historical tactics.

Everything's in cycles and with the rise of Haaland, we're already seeing teams start to move back to the idea of a big centre forward, ideally one with an all round game too but basically a rounded target man. Can definitely see either 451, or the classic big man little man 442 coming back in vogue- if a team had Haaland and Mbappe or any 2 of Haaland/Kane/Lewandowski/Hojlund I'd fully expect them to go 442.

[dermotdermot]

Townsend departs. I wasn’t so sure about him anyway.

[Spiral]

Townsend departs. I wasn’t so sure about him anyway.

That's surprising. Thought he did very well in pre-season. Looked fit, hungry.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

That's surprising. Thought he did very well in pre-season. Looked fit, hungry.

Think it probably means our priority signings are now available.

[Spiral]

Hope so. Townsend looked capable enough in those games. Would not be the least surprised to see someone like a Luton or a Forest taking a punt on him.

[RVclaret]

VK got asked on that today:

“We initially made sure we had terms agreed with Andros, so we did offer him a deal.

“But it was pending on a couple of things, mainly where the recruitment was going for us and the recovery of some of the players we had injured through pre-season. It was quite transparent in that sense.

“He’s been brilliant, he’s been fit and working hard. He’s been good for our dressing room, but in terms of what we already had in the building and what we want to bring in, it didn’t make sense for us to complete.

“My advice to any manager that is still looking for a winger is to approach him, because he’s shown very good signs for us in pre-season.”

[Casper2]

Townsend, Didn’t he want a two year contract ?

[wilks_bfc]

The squad numbers are on the official site.

The ones I’ve seen on the clubs media show Benson still as 17

[Spiral]

There we go, surplus to requirements unfortunately, but gets a smashing reference from VK. Good luck to him. Always seemed a sound lad.

[northeastclaret]

VK got asked on that today:

“We initially made sure we had terms agreed with Andros, so we did offer him a deal.

“But it was pending on a couple of things, mainly where the recruitment was going for us and the recovery of some of the players we had injured through pre-season. It was quite transparent in that sense.

“He’s been brilliant, he’s been fit and working hard. He’s been good for our dressing room, but in terms of what we already had in the building and what we want to bring in, it didn’t make sense for us to complete.

“My advice to any manager that is still looking for a winger is to approach him, because he’s shown very good signs for us in pre-season.”

I assume that means Benson is getting close to full fitness?

[boatshed bill]

There we go, surplus to requirements unfortunately, but gets a smashing reference from VK. Good luck to him. Always seemed a sound lad.

Looks like we have enough wingers, or another really good one on the way.
Townsend did everything asked of him but he's not one for the future. Nice comments from VK, though.

[Burnley Ace]

Alex Scott to Bournemouth for £25m! That’s a lot of money

[burnmark]

The ones I’ve seen on the clubs media show Benson still as 17

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/con ... -confirmed

[Ampth7]

I assume that means Benson is getting close to full fitness?

My thinking was also along these lines…….hope so anyway!

[Vegas Claret]

It sounds like Hamer is a real possibility for Sheff Utd

[Firthy]

It sounds like Hamer is a real possibility for Sheff Utd

Good. He's too old for us

[Rowls]

Alex Scott to Bournemouth for £25m! That’s a lot of money

Especially for a girl.

[Rileybobs]

Andros’ dad Troy Townsend was on the Guardian Football Weekly podcast on Tuesday doing the Premier League preview and I sensed that the rest of the panel were of the impression he was signing for us. Troy Townsend kept his cards close to his chest but gave the impression the deal was a possibility. He was very complimentary about VK and the club in general and predicted we’d have a good season.

[boatshed bill]

Especially for a girl.

Chauvinist pig

[boatshed bill]

It sounds like Hamer is a real possibility for Sheff Utd

Got to say I'm pleased for both Hamer and Sheff Utd.... and us actually.
Not what we needed.

[Quicknick]

If we'd have wanted Hamer, we'd have got him, I'd imagine.

[Duffer_]

In the spirit of the comments on Daramy not coming, was it just me that thought Hamer was carrying a bit too much timber against Leicester?

[randomclaret2]

In the spirit of the comments on Daramy not coming, was it just me that thought Hamer was carrying a bit too much timber against Leicester?

Tubby and lightweight at the same time...not for us

[CnBtruntru]

Tubby and lightweight at the same time...not for us

Must be related to Gnotty Gnome

[RVclaret]

Lukebakio likely to be joining

Could be a big signing

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... 92800?s=46

[CFS]

Watching the club on YouTube and in 2 videos so far Rory Jennings the Chelsea fan can't stop raving about maatsen to the extent he's put him as breakthrough player this season. Hands off he's ours we made him.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Lukebakio likely to be joining

Could be a big signing

https://twitter.com/sachatavolieri/stat ... 92800?s=46

Big signing, arguably our marquee signing on the summer?

[RVclaret]

Big signing, arguably our marquee signing on the summer?

Been a few of them I think! Would put Berge and Amdouni in a similar bracket…

[KlyBfc]

Not signing Townsend in a way shows a good mindset in where and what we want to achieve. He was excellent from what I saw pre season but in signing Redmond we’d already signed a top pro with no re sale value, we probably didn’t need another. Had he signed I wouldnt have been disappointed but fair play to VK and the board.

As for the Hertha lad I can safely say I’ve no idea about him. Is he a Tella alternative fast, strong, can play up front or across the line if needed?

Like I say o have no idea if he’s better than Tella or not

[taio]

Been a few of them I think! Would put Berge and Amdouni in a similar bracket…

I thought you didn't rate Berge - got the impression you thought he was sh1te? Apologies in advance if I've got you mixed up with someone else. But if not, interested in what's changed your view (apart from him signing for us).

[Sapperclaret73]

Having watched a clip of him on YouTube, he looks very much a “tella” type of player.

[Quicknick]

Is Lukebakio any good? I'd never heard of him.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Wonder what our formation will be?

4 at the back and then wingers running around everywhere

[RVclaret]

I thought you didn't rate Berge - got the impression you thought he was sh1te? Apologies in advance if I've got you mixed up with someone else. But if not, interested in what's changed your view (apart from him signing for us).

I actually thought he underperformed overall at Sheff in the Champ compared to what his potential is. Which is probably why we’ve been able to sign him, something Kompany alluded to in his presser today. When he’s good he’s very good but it wasn’t seen often enough… perhaps playing Kompany’s style of football will be better for him. I consider it a marquee signing given the size of the clubs he’s been linked with over the past couple of years. Never thought he was ‘sh1te’ though.

[Iloveyoubrady]

Lukebakio looks exciting. A definite tella alternative. Quick and can play wide right or central striker.

Would be a good addition to our forward options I think. Think we look a good balanced squad with someone like this who covers wide and through the middle.
Sign him and Ramsey, then I think we’re looking at a left back and potentially some more cover defensively and I am confident about our chances this season.

[Penwortham_Claret]

Also interest from Turkey for Bastien

[Rileybobs]

19th March 2023
I know Sander Berge has got a bit of a fan club on here but… he’s rubbish.

A lot can change in 8 games...

[taio]

I actually thought he underperformed overall at Sheff in the Champ compared to what his potential is. Which is probably why we’ve been able to sign him, something Kompany alluded to in his presser today. When he’s good he’s very good but it wasn’t seen often enough… perhaps playing Kompany’s style of football will be better for him. I consider it a marquee signing given the size of the clubs he’s been linked with over the past couple of years. Never thought he was ‘sh1te’ though.

It must've been the post Rileybobs has just posted above when you said he's rubbish. Not much difference from saying he's sh1te to be fair, and it wasn't long ago at all either.

[NewClaret]

Is Lukebakio any good? I'd never heard of him.

Me either, and from my YT scouting he looks pretty average, but Newcastle and RV see him as a marquee signing so hopefully a big player.

Would prefer we were securing another midfielder and LB to be honest.

[FeedTheArf]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/burnley ... on_id/2023

So with this Dodi bloke and Ramsey we’re looking at another 25m on top of the already circa 80m spend. If Odobert comes off we’re looking at a total of 115m spend and that’s before a left back!

It doesn’t matter how much is spread over the life of the contracts that is a significant chunk of change, especially when our wages will have gone up significantly.

Just where is the money coming from?!?

[randomclaret2]

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/burnley ... on_id/2023

So with this Dodi bloke and Ramsey we’re looking at another 25m on top of the already circa 80m spend. If Odobert comes off we’re looking at a total of 115m spend and that’s before a left back!

It doesn’t matter how much is spread over the life of the contracts that is a significant chunk of change, especially when our wages will have gone up significantly.

Just where is the money coming from?!?

Euros not Pounds quoted on there

[Tricky Trevor]

Just where is the money coming from?!?

Once the last one is in the sales/loans will begin, big style. Far too big a squad.

[ksrclaret]

Don’t worry. The resident virgins have.

Charming fella you are