Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[KRBFC]

I think this thread should be suspended until transfer deadline day on 1st September.
That's the only date we will all know what is what.
Rumours and guesswork followed by anticipations and disappointments is not good for anyone!

The ups and downs of the transfer window is great imo, get all excited about potential signings and discuss with others, it’s all part of being a fan.

[Holtyclaret]

It’s certainly not BS that brownhill is stalling on a new contract

He hasn’t been offered one yet but it’s imminent

[Newcastleclaret93]

Probably depends on the terms set out
I’m vaguely sure that a player has activated it themselves once in the PL despite the club not really wanting them and also the club doing the same to ensure they got a fee

Interesting so perhaps it could be in the players benefit or in the clubs.

So in theory Brownhill could be in his last year if the extension is to his favour.

[Darnhill Claret]

Could also be his last if the club choose not to extend.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Interesting so perhaps it could be in the players benefit or in the clubs.

So in theory Brownhill could be in his last year if the extension is to his favour.

https://theathletic.com/3356835/2022/06 ... ons/?amp=1

Worth a read

[GodIsADeeJay81]

https://x.com/sachatavolieri/status/169 ... 49870?s=46

Apparently this deal has been done

[123EasyasBFC]

He hasn’t been offered one yet but it’s imminent

Turned down first contract offer

[Rumbletonk]

Did I once say that? Meant more that it’s a bit lazy.

Our club isn’t infallible you know

No, you said it stinks. Implying something a lot different to laziness

[burnley007]

No, you said it stinks. Implying something a lot different to laziness

Why do you think people want to read other people's pathetic arguments, that are just pointless, on here? Just let it lie.

[quoonbeatz]

Usually if the option is 'in the clubs favour' they can just activate it. If it's the other way it usually means its based on appearances or whatever. Entry of times when a player hasn't played because the club doesn't want to activate the option.

Think Barnes was the most recent to activate an option despite most people thinking he would be off.

[Jakubs Tash]

Turned down first contract offer

He hasn’t been offered one yet but it’s imminent

Well, one of you or both of you are wrong!

[Holtyclaret]

Well, one of you or both of you are wrong!

Don’t think his brother (my source) would be wrong.

[Holtyclaret]

The option is in the clubs favour not the player, our protection against running his contract down, so 2 years left in effect.

[Firthy]

Ifd we sign Delcroix do you think this means no LB incoming and he'll use O'Shea or Delcroix as a LB

[Steddyman]

If an offer comes in matching our valuation of Brownhill, then he will be sold.

That is the business model now, and it makes sense.

[Goody1975]

Ifd we sign Delcroix do you think this means no LB incoming and he'll use O'Shea or Delcroix as a LB

More likely that he is a replacement for Taylor than anything else. Solid back up centre half and left footed to give balance.

[Jakubs Tash]

Ifd we sign Delcroix do you think this means no LB incoming and he'll use O'Shea or Delcroix as a LB

It might be fair to suggest that Delcroix might be an option to play as a left sided centre half/left back as the likes of Man City do but I think (hope!) we will still be looking for an out and out left back who can play this system like a Maatsen or Gomez.

[burnley007]

It might be fair to suggest that Delcroix might be an option to play as a left sided centre half/left back as the likes of Man City do but I think (hope!) we will still be looking for an out and out left back who can play this system like a Maatsen or Gomez.

I like the look of the young Dutch left back at Chelsea.

[Goody1975]

I like the look of the young Dutch left back at Chelsea.

van Chilwell?

[Firthy]

I like the look of the young Dutch left back at Chelsea.

Unfortunately so does their manager.

[Goody1975]

Unfortunately so does their manager.

not as a left back though.

[It Is What It Is]

I think if you don't like it keep your opinions to yourself. The title of the post states 'rumours, discussions'. What do you not understand about that?

It was a tongue in cheek remark....hence the exclamation mark.
No need for unfriendly sarcasm, it let's you down.

[Anthonini]

Lukebakio to Sevilla for 7 million euro. What a wimp... Hope we can find something better to reinforce our frontline.

Happy with the signing of Delcroix he's a very decent backup for Beyer. He's not a left back although he can play there if needed.

[CoolClaret]

Lukebakio to Sevilla for 7 million euro. What a wimp... Hope we can find something better to reinforce our frontline.

Happy with the signing of Delcroix he's a very decent backup for Beyer. He's not a left back although he can play there if needed.

What’s the latest on Gift Orban?

Looks like he could be the absolute dogs b0ll0cks to me, pace, power and an eye for goal.

[RVclaret]

What’s the latest on Gift Orban?

Looks like he could be the absolute dogs b0ll0cks to me, pace, power and an eye for goal.

Spurs and Fulham in for him apparently

[Goody1975]

Lukebakio to Sevilla for 7 million euro. What a wimp... Hope we can find something better to reinforce our frontline.

Happy with the signing of Delcroix he's a very decent backup for Beyer. He's not a left back although he can play there if needed.

If you asked the users of this board two years ago, if they were confident of signing the players we need to succeed they'd already be on panic alert.

Last season and the beginning of this transfer window shows we are in good hands, I'm completely relaxed about being strong enough to stay up after the window closes.

[KlyBfc]

No inside information just my own thoughts, but I do expect us to use our two domestic loans on or round the final day of the transfer window. I think we will be waiting until then to ensure we get the best players we possibly can and not sign someone only to find out a better player or someone else we wanted becomes available on the final day of the window. I think this will be the case to fill our left back position.

[BleedingClaret]

It might be fair to suggest that Delcroix might be an option to play as a left sided centre half/left back as the likes of Man City do but I think (hope!) we will still be looking for an out and out left back who can play this system like a Maatsen or Gomez.

It won’t make me popular on here but I still don’t basically think that Mattsen could defend
And since we may be defending a tad more in the Prem, he may well have been exposed somewhat

[Rick_Muller]

It won’t make me popular on here but I still don’t basically think that Mattsen could defend
And since we may be defending a tad more in the Prem, he may well have been exposed somewhat

I concur - was always my concern for Maatsen for me, excellent going forward. Not so great defending and was often caught out down our left side.

[NewClaret]

Lukebakio to Sevilla for 7 million euro. What a wimp... Hope we can find something better to reinforce our frontline.

Happy with the signing of Delcroix he's a very decent backup for Beyer. He's not a left back although he can play there if needed.

Considering the rave reviews Lukebakio got on here here, quite surprised he was sold for €7m.

[mybloodisclaret]

Has he defo signed for Sevilla? Not on socials and can't see anything on a Google search

[claretburns]

Considering the rave reviews Lukebakio got on here here, quite surprised he was sold for €7m.

Hertha and Sevilla are owned by the same ownership group, probably a low fee to avoid paying tax somewhere.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

It won’t make me popular on here but I still don’t basically think that Mattsen could defend
And since we may be defending a tad more in the Prem, he may well have been exposed somewhat

For a player who apparently couldn’t defend its quite remarkable we conceded the least goals in the division.

[alwaysaclaret]

For a player who apparently couldn’t defend its quite remarkable we conceded the least goals in the division.

Huge difference between the Premier league and championship

[BleedingClaret]

For a player who apparently couldn’t defend its quite remarkable we conceded the least goals in the division.

Nobody could get the ball off us and we came under minimal pressure
But I’m not the only one to spot Mattsen’s poor positioning, rash challenges and over confidence of his own pace off the mark
Not one of our defenders will look as good this year as last but all the others have defensive qualities first, Mattsen was a lot better going forward than defending

[Holtyclaret]

Maatsen was always more of a premier league player than a championship’defender’. Highly intelligent, well developed through his early career and a super quick learner.

It’d take him a game to get back up to speed following an injury/suspension absence.

Very rare with any of our team last year, that if a mistake happened would it happen again. Best example being the 2nd half at Shef Utd.

Maatsen will have a stellar career.

[Rick_Muller]

I see that Kalvin Phillips is rumoured to be going out on loan to get his career back on track. I'd be all over that loan deal if he's available...

https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/sta ... 49502?s=20

[CoolClaret]

I see that Kalvin Phillips is rumoured to be going out on loan to get his career back on track. I'd be all over that loan deal if he's available...

https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/sta ... 49502?s=20

Yes please

[Superjohnnyfrancis]

It won’t make me popular on here but I still don’t basically think that Mattsen could defend
And since we may be defending a tad more in the Prem, he may well have been exposed somewhat

I get what your saying but the position he played almost all season was more a left wing back/ left midfield anyway so I don’t think defending was high up on his remit. A lot of attacking came through him and Tella , we look a bit bereft of ideas without them. Although we only have Man City as a marker so far, other players may emerge to fill the gaps , who knows.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I see that Kalvin Phillips is rumoured to be going out on loan to get his career back on track. I'd be all over that loan deal if he's available...

https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/sta ... 49502?s=20

Rumours Liverpool are in for him

Also, he’s barely played for over a year so he’s an entirely unknown quantity right now and on that basis can we take a punt on him?

[randomclaret2]

Yes please

He wont come here...he has more chance of Southgate picking him for England if he doesnt play at all for City than playing for us every week.

[BleedingClaret]

I get what your saying but the position he played almost all season was more a left wing back/ left midfield anyway so I don’t think defending was high up on his remit. A lot of attacking came through him and Tella , we look a bit bereft of ideas without them. Although we only have Man City as a marker so far, other players may emerge to fill the gaps who knows.

It’s a little bit early to say we’re bereft of ideas after 1 game against possibly the best team in the world.
I’m suggesting the player occupying that position this year will need to defend first, if Mattsen is good enough to play in front of a LB then he’d be an asset.
He was brilliant playing wing back in a totally dominant team but imo as LB in a less dominant EPL team is a different proposition

[DCWat]

Rumours Liverpool are in for him

Also, he’s barely played for over a year so he’s an entirely unknown quantity right now and on that basis can we take a punt on him?

I’ve never been convinced that he’s of a level for the top teams in the Premier League, good player though he is.

Unless there are still injury concerns with him, I wouldn’t see him as a punt. He’d surely be a quality addition and provide some real competition in our midfield.

Very unlikely he will be coming to us anyway, I’d imagine.

[ArmchairDetective]

AMN has gone to Lyon.

We need a ST and a LB for me, assuming we get Ramsey and keep Brownhill.

[Hipper]

I see that Kalvin Phillips is rumoured to be going out on loan to get his career back on track. I'd be all over that loan deal if he's available...

https://twitter.com/DeadlineDayLive/sta ... 49502?s=20

I saw he was on the bench for all three City games this season so he must be reasonably fit. I liked the way he played for England and if we could afford him on loan I'd welcome it.

[jojomk1]

Rumours Liverpool are in for him
Also, he’s barely played for over a year so he’s an entirely unknown quantity right now and on that basis can we take a punt on him?

Not sure City will let him go to any of their nearest challengers

It would be worth asking the question

[Nori1958]

I’ve never been convinced that he’s of a level for the top teams in the Premier League, good player though he is.

Unless there are still injury concerns with him, I wouldn’t see him as a punt. He’d surely be a quality addition and provide some real competition in our midfield.

Very unlikely he will be coming to us anyway, I’d imagine.

City saying they want a loan, they won't loan him to a rival, so why not us?

[DCWat]

City saying they want a loan, they won't loan him to a rival, so why not us?

Yes, fair enough, I just wondered if they might try to get him to somewhere (home or abroad) playing in Europe. A Brighton or West Ham might appeal without being seen to be a rival, for example.

[Rumbletonk]

Loving the optimism but that is really shooting for the stars

[Nori1958]

Yes, fair enough, I just wondered if they might try to get him to somewhere (home or abroad) playing in Europe. A Brighton or West Ham might appeal without being seen to be a rival, for example.

It is a longshot, but it's the only club likely to loan us a big star