Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

[Venkys4eva]

Just on the BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/burnley

[TheFamilyCat]

I don't think he is reluctant to move. I think he wants to move.

It is more likely that personal terms have not yet been agreed between BFC and Maatsen. That can be sorted.

Hope you're right Simon.

Interesting that Sky were quoting the DT when it said a deal had been done but it's a DT journo saying he doesn't want to move.

[Gazclaret83]

31.5 million haha how does that fit into kompanys sell on model? Nathan tella would have looked good compared to this deal

[BleedingClaret]

I actually don’t really want Mattsen
And I have a feeling that if he comes and a Premier League winger or ten sail past him, when he’s out of position, like he’s not really there, then
£31.5m if that’s true may seem just a little exorbitant.
There said it!

[Wembley09]

Is Wembley09 posting from Cape Verde, he seems to be an hour behind everyone else?

So it's you who put the spyware on my Laptop! I need a better anti-virus to stop showing my address/personal details.

[Nori1958]

Does anyone know if Maatsen is reluctant to move? Can’t see it anywhere!

You must not be looking very hard

The reporter who originally reported the deal to Start with, then the Chelsea reported on the Guardian, plus the famous Italian

[pushpinpussy]

The Maatsen deal smells of desperation

[Rick_Muller]

quite like the smell to be honest

[HitchinClaret]

I think the key info is "including add-ons"

It could be £10m + add ons which would be great business. We know that we are no longer mugs in this game.

[jedi_master]

Firstly - £31.5m, add ons or not, is nobody baulking at this yet and/or questioning how we have seemingly become one of the richest clubs in the Premier League overnight?!

That said - IF we can afford it (and it’s not my/our job to know our financial strength) then what a signing. We are missing him big time.

Secondly - second thoughts on coming? Could be a last minute ploy to get another 10-15k a week out of us or some such. I think Maatsen has too much respect for Kompany to let this go on all summer and get cold feet at this last moment. A bit like Tresor who clearly had his agent agitating him to get a bit of extra brass out of us (nobody will convince me otherwise) I can see this randomly being a goer in about 3 hours.

[RVclaret]

Chelsea trying to convince him to join us apparently

https://x.com/migueldelaney/status/1697 ... 52622?s=46

[123EasyasBFC]

Chelsea are currently trying to convince Ian Maatsen to join Burnley. (@MiguelDelaney @Independent) #CFC

If he still turns us down after this

[agreenwood]

I like Maatsen, but if we’re spending that kind of money, it’d be nice to think he didn’t need convincing.

[Cap]

Chelsea trying to convince him to join us apparently

https://x.com/migueldelaney/status/1697 ... 52622?s=46

Not surprised at that fee

[willsclarets]

i'm flabergasted some folk aren't fussed about maatsen signing even for 30+ million. IMO he's going to be world-class, and win a lot of winners medals.

[Vegas Claret]

Firstly - £31.5m, add ons or not, is nobody baulking at this yet and/or questioning how we have seemingly become one of the richest clubs in the Premier League overnight?!

That said - IF we can afford it (and it’s not my/our job to know our financial strength) then what a signing. We are missing him big time.

Secondly - second thoughts on coming? Could be a last minute ploy to get another 10-15k a week out of us or some such. I think Maatsen has too much respect for Kompany to let this go on all summer and get cold feet at this last moment. A bit like Tresor who clearly had his agent agitating him to get a bit of extra brass out of us (nobody will convince me otherwise) I can see this randomly being a goer in about 3 hours.

what if the breakdown is 5 million loan fee, 20 million over 4 years plus the rest in add ons based on PL appearances, avoiding relegation and qualifying for Europe with 4 years - that makes it much more affordable. Just need to persuade him

[Wembley09]

Did seem like Chelsea might be pushing the move, they publicly announced it (even though it's been reported Maatsen wants to stay)

Funny how Chelsea are bothered about FFP when the new owners have spent over 1 Billion.

[Spijed]

Firstly - £31.5m, add ons or not, is nobody baulking at this yet and/or questioning how we have seemingly become one of the richest clubs in the Premier League overnight?!

That said - IF we can afford it (and it’s not my/our job to know our financial strength) then what a signing. We are missing him big time.

Secondly - second thoughts on coming? Could be a last minute ploy to get another 10-15k a week out of us or some such. I think Maatsen has too much respect for Kompany to let this go on all summer and get cold feet at this last moment. A bit like Tresor who clearly had his agent agitating him to get a bit of extra brass out of us (nobody will convince me otherwise) I can see this randomly being a goer in about 3 hours.

But if he has too much respect for VK would he be trying it on in terms of bigger wages at this late stage, when we could easily walk away from the deal?

[AfloatinClaret]

Is Wembley09 posting from Cape Verde, he seems to be an hour behind everyone else?

I think Cape Verdes are two hours behind us?

[Ric_C]

Apparently we have options A,B,C,D etc for every position. Why not for a left back?

Find this situation increasingly odd. We are potentially going into a premier season with only 1 fit recognised left back that doesn't fit into our system anyway

[Wembley09]

I think Cape Verdes are two hours behind us?

In the UK summer time, yes

[DCWat]

Good player is Maatsen but add ins or not, that fee is ridiculous.

I may be wrong with the view that he won’t progress to a level that makes the fee worthwhile, time will tell.

I’d love him back just not at that sort of money!

[LaLigaClaret]

We desperately need a LB but not that desperate. £31.5m for Maatsen is seriously bonkers beyond belief and where the hell would the money come from surely only from the sale of players next year. This transfer window is becoming delusional as clearly we could have bid higher sums for other players we were linked with but didn't pursue because we thought they were too expensive. I would rather have got 2 or 3 of those than paying out ludicrous sums for Maatsen who isn't that great defensively which is why Chelsea are starting to use him NOT in the LB position.

[Carport]

i'm flabergasted some folk aren't fussed about maatsen signing even for 30+ million. IMO he's going to be world-class, and win a lot of winners medals.

World class full backs can defend. Maatsen can’t. I really don’t think he is worth the money being quoted. He was great in the Championship but think he will get ripped apart defensively in the Prem

[quoonbeatz]

It's nowhere near 31 million, amazed that anyone would fall for that.

[RVclaret]

I like Maatsen, but if we’re spending that kind of money, it’d be nice to think he didn’t need convincing.

Hard to disagree on that view

[RVclaret]

‘Ian Maatsen has told Vincent Kompany in a personal phone call why he is reluctant to move to Burnley. The pair have deep respect and a great relationship from his loan spell last year’

[Gazclaret83]

Not surprised at that fee

Trying to convince him haha. Leave it

[Benson]

It's nowhere near 31 million, amazed that anyone would fall for that.

How much is it then ?

[Anthonini]

At least we got another excellent player in our squad. Tresor and Maatsen on loan... Still waiting for the big fish to bite and see who we manage to buy in the end.

[AGENT_CLARET]

World class full backs can defend. Maatsen can’t. I really don’t think he is worth the money being quoted. He was great in the Championship but think he will get ripped apart defensively in the Prem

Spot on

[jedi_master]

But if he has too much respect for VK would he be trying it on in terms of bigger wages at this late stage, when we could easily walk away from the deal?

Agent

[ŽižkovClaret]

As Mr Lynott almost said, "If Maatsen don't wanna know, forget him"

[Newcastleclaret93]

‘Ian Maatsen has told Vincent Kompany in a personal phone call why he is reluctant to move to Burnley. The pair have deep respect and a great relationship from his loan spell last year’

Why has that call not happened earlier

Crazy that we are not going to get a left back in

[claretspice]

There's always an awful lot of only partially true information flying around on deadline day. I daresay that that applies to Maatsen as much as anyone else.

[AGENT_CLARET]

It's nowhere near 31 million, amazed that anyone would fall for that.

BBC sport and Sky sports have fallen for it

[Spijed]

‘Ian Maatsen has told Vincent Kompany in a personal phone call why he is reluctant to move to Burnley. The pair have deep respect and a great relationship from his loan spell last year’

Sounds like the end of that then!

[Vegas Claret]

all of you assuming we are after Maatsen as a left back, you know VK will play him left wing

[AGENT_CLARET]

Agent

What

[BigGaz]

I do feel a lot of the interest reported over the last few days such as Sinisterra, Clarke and the like were just us covering our bases in the event of Tresor not coming through.

I am now hoping that unknown to us, there is similar activity taking place with regards to the LB. What is worrying me a little is that I don’t think it’s true to say all our dealing is being done in the dark - we’re not hearing much. Some transfers have been surprises but with many and more, we’ve heard a lot about them before the deal gets over the line.

We may have also shagged ourselves into a corner. The likes of Feyenoord will see that bid, and if we were to come knocking with a bid for Hartmann then you know what they’re gonna say.

Makes for a very exciting and interesting last few hours. I’m not sure I’d be good at the diplomatic aspect of a head of transfers style role so fair play to whoever fulfils these types of duties for clubs all around the world. I’d currently be wondering round Towneley park looking for dogs eggs, before heading down Haffners asking for a pigs head to send on to Maatsens agent on a same day delivery.

[Wembley09]

Charlie Taylor center back and Maatsen left wing.

[dandeclaret]

If you read between the lines a bit…

1) Chelsea trying to convince Maatsen to leave = Finalising the pay up value of his contract

2) Maatsen not keen to join Burnley = Personal terms not met, and an understanding he has most leverage in the deal…. He and his agent hold all the aces…. Maximise the return.

[Anthonini]

all of you assuming we are after Maatsen as a left back, you know VK will play him left wing

I wouldn't be surprised with the way we are playing currently. I wouldn't mind either. Maatsen is a great winger and mostly offensively.

[jedi_master]

If you read between the lines a bit…

1) Chelsea trying to convince Maatsen to leave = Finalising the pay up value of his contract

2) Maatsen not keen to join Burnley = Personal terms not met, and an understanding he has most leverage in the deal…. He and his agent hold all the aces…. Maximise the return.

Bingo IMO.

[willsclarets]

World class full backs can defend. Maatsen can’t. I really don’t think he is worth the money being quoted. He was great in the Championship but think he will get ripped apart defensively in the Prem

Agree to disagree I guess! He's 21 years old, and he has the lot. You can learn to be a better defender, you can't teach the natural ability he has. If you think of the most celebrated fullbacks in recent history, a lot of them were formidable going forward as an attacking force. Maatsen will create far more goals than he's responsible for conceding.

[Gordaleman]

Daily Mail now saying Maatsen fee is £13.5 million.

A bit of sanity at last.

[GrahamBranchsPerm]

VK currently cooking Charlie Taylor an omlette.....

So, Sir Charles, how do you like your eggs?

[quoonbeatz]

BBC sport and Sky sports have fallen for it

Not looked at sky but bbc are reporting it includes add ons, which is accurate. People are talking like 31.5m is the guaranteed fee, when it's nowhere near that.

[quoonbeatz]

How much is it then ?

Guaranteed? Way way less.

[Spijed]

Daily Mail now saying Maatsen fee is £13.5 million.

A bit of sanity at last.

A typo?