Brilliant New Burnley Podcast

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:57 pm

forzagranata wrote: ↑
Thu Jun 22, 2023 3:52 pm
Which one has the Kilby tones? Justin?

Yes Justin, sounds so much like Barry.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 6:49 pm

Yep… Justin

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:06 pm

Is Justin Connolly the son of former Walton High School deputy head John Connolly? I was in the same year as his son, Jonathan Connolly and sure he had a younger brother.

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Thu Jun 22, 2023 7:16 pm

Yes Herts that's him.

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:22 pm

Latest episode out now with chat about transfers, shirt sponsor and safe standing:

https://pod.link/1688380656/episode/5b ... 2df2818a

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:27 pm

forzagranata wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:22 pm
Latest episode out now with chat about transfers, shirt sponsor and safe standing:

https://pod.link/1688380656/episode/5b ... 2df2818a

Excellent feature on shirt sponsorship. I knew it was grubby but that is very grim. The ‘money talks’ argument has a lot of credibility, even with me, but this is not a deal I am remotely proud of my club for getting tied into. Yuck

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:45 pm

I enjoyed the bit on the shirt sponsorship and the murkier details of it.

I felt it was all a bit naive on the "why are our American owners failing to get a giant American sponsor" chat though. It's not as if other clubs aren't owned by American owners with significantly more clout and also don't get sponsors like coca cola.

Ightenhill_Claret · Post by **Ightenhill_Claret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:41 pm

I think Coca Cola was a suggestion but Wrexham - for instance - have been able to pull in United Airlines for their shirt.

I know most will point to the Ryan Reynolds and Rob McElhenney effect but I’m sure the JJ Watt factor (he’s just signed a multi-year - and I imagine multi-million dollar - deal with CBS) would also be very attractive to big US companies if we decided to try fishing in those pools/had the deal makers to get those deals signed off.

claret wizard · Post by **claret wizard** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:45 pm

How many times do they say “we’re not accountants” in this episode? Then proceed to talk like they are. That aside I do find it a good listen.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:49 pm

claret wizard wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:45 pm
How many times do they say “we’re not accountants” in this episode? Then proceed to talk like they are. That aside I do find it a good listen.

Pretty funny isn’t it.

I’ve given up after this episode. Have given it a good few goes but can’t be doing with the negative agenda driven stuff.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:53 pm

When every other phrase is "you know" it makes it an awfully difficult listen.

The transfer chat was decent but turned it off soon after.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:04 pm

Good listen again, but surprised how easy some pretty seasoned journos thought plucking a lucrative US sponsor would be.

JJ Watt and Vincent Kompany or not, we’re still Burnley. Nobody is offering us close to what the overseas gambling companies are willing to stump up.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:58 pm

agreenwood wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:04 pm
Good listen again, but surprised how easy some pretty seasoned journos thought plucking a lucrative US sponsor would be.

JJ Watt and Vincent Kompany or not, we’re still Burnley. Nobody is offering us close to what the overseas gambling companies are willing to stump up.

And if some huge American company did offer us a deal, the gambling sponsor would still be the highest.

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 7:58 pm
And if some huge American company did offer us a deal, the gambling sponsor would still be the highest.

That's probably the case yes.

I am still surprised that ALK Capital hasn't been more effective commercially though. Then again, they don't really have a background in that kind of thing, their track record is more in money markets.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:30 pm

I don't know any of you but in the next episode please can you only say things that everyone agrees with. Many thanks

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:38 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 6:49 pm
Pretty funny isn’t it.

I’ve given up after this episode. Have given it a good few goes but can’t be doing with the negative agenda driven stuff.

Spot on

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:03 am

gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:38 pm
Spot on

Each to their own but a third of the podcast was dicussions of transfer options - nothing negative or agenda driven about that. The next section was an interview with a French expert on Asian betting companies which was focused on facts about W88. There was then a discussion about the moral issues of the deal - with some contributors saying that well, its the big money, its hard to turn down. Then there was a brief chat about safe standing which was evaluating how it might work at the Turf and how it might improve the atmosphere.

I am genuinely baffled how that could be perceived as "negative" or "agenda-driven".

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:06 am

forzagranata wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:03 am
Each to their own but a third of the podcast was dicussions of transfer options - nothing negative or agenda driven about that. The next section was an interview with a French expert on Asian betting companies which was focused on facts about W88. There was then a discussion about the moral issues of the deal - with some contributors saying that well, its the big money, its hard to turn down. Then there was a brief chat about safe standing which was evaluating how it might work at the Turf and how it might improve the atmosphere.

I am genuinely baffled how that could be perceived as "negative" or "agenda-driven".

To be fair forza it isn’t just the latest podcast. Like RV I have tried to listen to it many times as I genuinely think there’s a gap in the market for this sort of thing with BFC however I cannot shake off the feeling that it is all agenda driven nonesense

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:07 am

What is the agenda?

Boxy · Post by **Boxy** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:27 am

I dont always agree with the hosts opinions in the podcasts but I am really enjoying it. Would love for it to be more frequent.

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:31 am

Boxy wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:27 am
I dont always agree with the hosts opinions in the podcasts but I am really enjoying it. Would love for it to be more frequent.

Thanks. It will be more regular once the season starts. There will also be much more focus on the on-field action and debates about games once the football is back under way.

It is inevitable during the off-season that many of the talking points are related to off-the-field issues - like kits, sponsors, loans etc but while we aren't going to stop asking questions, when needed, about the club's ownership, the football will be more central when the games begin.

Boxy · Post by **Boxy** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 12:39 am

To be fair , when you get a group of people together you aren't all gonna agree on everything. But that what makes podcast like this so interesting. You are looking at it from a completely different viewpoint to me

RicardoMontalban · Post by **RicardoMontalban** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:28 am

forzagranata wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 01, 2023 8:04 pm
That's probably the case yes.

I am still surprised that ALK Capital hasn't been more effective commercially though. Then again, they don't really have a background in that kind of thing, their track record is more in money markets.

Can’t help but think relegation played a massive part in that, and the less than aesthetically appealing playing style prior to said relegation.

If we have a decent season playing good stuff and still struggle to attract investment then yes, I think that assessment will be valid. But up to now I can see why it’s been a struggle.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:07 pm

RicardoMontalban wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 10:28 am
Can’t help but think relegation played a massive part in that, and the less than aesthetically appealing playing style prior to said relegation.

If we have a decent season playing good stuff and still struggle to attract investment then yes, I think that assessment will be valid. But up to now I can see why it’s been a struggle.

The lack of success commercially has cost a few jobs. The entire commercial team there at the takeover have all gone as have a number of those brought in to replace them.

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:07 pm
The lack of success commercially has cost a few jobs. The entire commercial team there at the takeover have all gone as have a number of those brought in to replace them.

Cost jobs because they were crap at it? Or lack of funds to pay them?

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:15 pm

Enjoyed the podcast again…. Good level of discussion. Some things I agreed with, some I didn’t….. but it’s measured and reasoned discussion, so all good.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:26 pm

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:12 pm
Cost jobs because they were crap at it? Or lack of funds to pay them?

No idea but they brought in one bloke to head the department who was then removed and replaced by someone from Celtic called Gordon Kaye. He went too and not of his own accord I’m told.

More difficult to track all the staff changes now. They’ve removed the staff list from the official site.

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sun Jul 02, 2023 5:26 pm
No idea but they brought in one bloke to head the department who was then removed and replaced by someone from Celtic called Gordon Kaye. He went too and not of his own accord I’m told.

More difficult to track all the staff changes now. They’ve removed the staff list from the official site.

Ello ello......

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 8:22 am

Woody on the podcast has a proper voice for radio and I mean that in a positive way

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 3:41 pm

The latest pod is out btw - special on transfers and transfer strategy with Belgian reporter Sacha Tavolieri - plus Dan Barnes of the Bolton News on how James Trafford looked last season.

https://pod.link/1688380656

ClaretPete001 · Post by **ClaretPete001** » Fri Jul 07, 2023 5:38 pm

forzagranata wrote: ↑
Fri Jul 07, 2023 3:41 pm
The latest pod is out btw - special on transfers and transfer strategy with Belgian reporter Sacha Tavolieri - plus Dan Barnes of the Bolton News on how James Trafford looked last season.

https://pod.link/1688380656

Really good listen this podcast .. interview with a Belgian journalist and one about a potential new keeper - interesting views on Muric.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:08 am

I’ve been a critic but this was a great episode. The only thing I would say is on the muric debate and to be fair a few of the guys on the podcast made this point. Muric did nothing wrong last season, however the PL is a different ball game and muric’s qualities on the ball counts for nothing if his shot stopping ability is below par which I believe it is for the PL. it’s harsh, and ruthless by VK but I think he is making the right decision here.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:49 am

Top listening again…. But lads…. Barry Kilby is walking the Leeds Liverpool canal, and “Justin” is away on a “European scouting trip”…. Come on lads, just admit it…. Barry Kilby is on your podcast.

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:42 pm

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 9:49 am
Top listening again…. But lads…. Barry Kilby is walking the Leeds Liverpool canal, and “Justin” is away on a “European scouting trip”…. Come on lads, just admit it…. Barry Kilby is on your podcast.

We absolutely have to make an episode with "Justin" interviewing Barry Kilby.....

helmclaret · Post by **helmclaret** » Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:29 pm

That would be funny

Ightenhill_Claret · Post by **Ightenhill_Claret** » Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:15 am

Episode 7 out now! Chatter on the new kit, Wout (and his new hair do!), Fabrizio Romano on the Coulibaly deal plus some audio from Charlotte FC from Scotty Arfield on the influence of Ashley Westwood and his Canadian national team future!

Out on the usual platforms - https://pod.link/1688380656

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Jul 14, 2023 11:18 am

forzagranata wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:42 pm
We absolutely have to make an episode with "Justin" interviewing Barry Kilby.....

Barry would be happy to do it I’m certain.

Ightenhill_Claret · Post by **Ightenhill_Claret** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:39 am

New episode out now in all the usual places - https://pod.link/1688380656

Spoiler alert - there's plenty of praise for Alan Pace in this one #noagenda

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 8:58 am

I enjoy listening to the podcast, just one small criticism. Could you, you know, maybe try and use, you know, a repeated phrase, you know, a little less. If I knew then I wouldn't need to listen.

Apart from that keep up the good work.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:11 am

If you were in doubt, that despite where the presenters now reside in the world now, that they're PROPER Burnley, you just need to listen to the last link.... "It's only £2.80 in't Bridge Bierhouse in Burnley"

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:11 pm

A new episode is out.
I haven't listened to it yet.

Topics are Koleosho, and Muric vs Trafford.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Jul 29, 2023 7:10 am

Enjoyed the latest pod and also good idea on the Twitter spaces after the game last night - this going to be a regular thing? I was going to chip in with the comment that Cullen did play the full 90 at Genk which I don’t think any of you realised.

Ightenhill_Claret · Post by **Ightenhill_Claret** » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:01 am

Thanks RV! Yeah the Twitter Spaces is something that some of the team were testing last night ahead of that becoming the space for our post-match chatter etc.

We’ve got a few different things planned to try and make it as interactive and as engaging as we can.

Rouwens_Weapon · Post by **Rouwens_Weapon** » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:19 am

I'm new to the podcast but have listened to the last two and enjoyed them. Justin referred to Dara O'Shea as Dara O'Brien in the last one which made me chuckle but I do like the style.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:21 am

Rouwens_Weapon wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 29, 2023 8:19 am
I'm new to the podcast but have listened to the last two and enjoyed them. Justin referred to Dara O'Shea as Dara O'Brien in the last one which made me chuckle but I do like the style.

I thought I’d misheard that!

DanH90 · Post by **DanH90** » Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:29 am

Really enjoyed all of these so far. Feel like it’s a podcast for the, without trying to sound too snobbish, the more articulate and intelligent Burnley fan. The other ones out there I’ve tried but the chat is so amateurish, this one feels like a podcast by people who actually understand football.

claretdj · Post by **claretdj** » Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:38 am

DanH90 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:29 am
Really enjoyed all of these so far. Feel like it’s a podcast for the, without trying to sound too snobbish, the more articulate and intelligent Burnley fan. The other ones out there I’ve tried but the chat is so amateurish, this one feels like a podcast by people who actually understand football.

Spot on with the above comments, I listened to the turfcast one after the game but one lad on there was effin this effin that every comment when he was talking, turned it off after 2 minutes

& then found the bee hole end one which is brilliant tbh. The weekly pod they do with random guests is on is bob on, a brilliant pod so thanks to all involved for creating it.

Raconteur · Post by **Raconteur** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 6:58 pm

claretdj wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:38 am
Spot on with the above comments, I listened to the turfcast one after the game but one lad on there was effin this effin that every comment when he was talking, turned it off after 2 minutes & then found the bee hole end one which is brilliant tbh. The weekly pod they do with random guests is on is bob on, a brilliant pod so thanks to all involved for creating it.

To be fair on Turfcast, that wasn't one of their podcasts. They were hosting on Twitter Spaces for the first time and it was someone with no association who was effing and jeffing.
Joe, Nathan and the rest of the lads do a good job.

JarrowClaret · Post by **JarrowClaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:02 pm

claretdj wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 29, 2023 11:38 am
Spot on with the above comments, I listened to the turfcast one after the game but one lad on there was effin this effin that every comment when he was talking, turned it off after 2 minutes & then found the bee hole end one which is brilliant tbh. The weekly pod they do with random guests is on is bob on, a brilliant pod so thanks to all involved for creating it.

Ha ha I watched that as well as much as it was a little annoying and not needed some people speak like that and he isn’t 1 of the regular podcasters.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Tue Aug 01, 2023 8:45 am

DanH90 wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 29, 2023 9:29 am
Really enjoyed all of these so far. Feel like it’s a podcast for the, without trying to sound too snobbish, the more articulate and intelligent Burnley fan. The other ones out there I’ve tried but the chat is so amateurish, this one feels like a podcast by people who actually understand football.

All the contributors to the From the Bee Hole End podcast are either journos or work in the media. Simon Evans worked for Reuters for years, Boden is ex Burnley Express, Justin Connolly works for MEN, Andrew Greaves is Head of Journalism at Bauer Media. Not sure about Paul Woodhouse.