Southend Utd

AmbleClaret · Post by **AmbleClaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 9:58 am

Another old club potentially due to cease to exist today if the winding-up order in the High Court is granted.
Remember playing these for a few seasons during our darkest days in the '80s. How fortunes can change.

Red Fox Rocks Socks · Post by **Red Fox Rocks Socks** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:01 am

Was it not Southend we hammered in the green and black halfed shirt we loaned them?

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:04 am

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:01 am
Was it not Southend we hammered in the green and black halfed shirt we loaned them?

Our most unlucky strip ever

Rowls · Post by **Rowls** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:09 am

We played them as recently as 2007 and lost.

Venkys4eva · Post by **Venkys4eva** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:10 am

https://youtu.be/47KvzSJLJR8

Silkyskills1 · Post by **Silkyskills1** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:15 am

And it was Southend who came to Turf Moor late season 1981/82 and beat us 3-5 when we were hopefully on our way to promotion. Former Bury centre forward, Derek Spence had an absolute worldie for them. Beat them 1-4 on penultimate game of the season a few weeks later to assure promotion after a dreadful start to the season.

ClaretLoup · Post by **ClaretLoup** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:23 am

Club Staff haven’t been paid for four months. Doesn’t look like a happy ship.

Xianclaret · Post by **Xianclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:26 am

Yes a wonderful promotion Friday night in Southend! Good memories although too much cider slightly clouded the experience…

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:39 am

Those games in 82 seem like yesterday. Ex Claret Dave Smith was their manager at the time. The 3-5 game was freakish. As Silky said Derek Spence tore us apart. We went 2-0 down in no time then clawed it back to 2-2 and they went down to 10 men just before HT. it looked like it would be a regulation fight back as that team was so resilient but we totally fell apart in the first 15 minutes of the second half. Phelan and more importantly as it proved, Overson, were missing that night and in retrospect we should have taken it as a flashing light warning for the following season. Happily the trip to the Essex coast was much better. A lovely May Friday night and we played really well.

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:46 am

The one and only time I've been to Southend was on that Friday night in 1982. I really cannot remember anything about the game - no, I was sober - except the scoreline. Did Tommy Cassidy score that night? He wasn't excessively mobile but a good footballer. Just two months afterwards he was in Spain for Northern Ireland for the WC, along with Billy H., and, having just checked, he came on as a sub in that magnificent win against Spain.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:49 am

It was Wharton, McGee 2 and Laws who scored. From memory it was Cassidy who played a sublime ball to Wharton for the first

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:51 am

Thank you, Culmclaret. I seem to recall McGee doing a decent job for us during his time at TM.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:57 am

He did. In two spells that season. ‘We’ll take more care of you Paul McGee’ we sang during his loan spell. We needed him for the run in following Taylor’s injury and we finally got him from QPR. Sadly he struggled in Div 2 the following season.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:00 am

Culmclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:57 am
He did. In two spells that season. ‘We’ll take more care of you Paul McGee’ we sang during his loan spell. We needed him for the run in following Taylor’s injury and we finally got him from QPR. Sadly he struggled in Div 2 the following season.

Ski McGee played for Galway United

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:02 am

The Southend crisis has been going on for some time and it has been one blow after another for their fans.

Chairman Ron Martin is public enemy number one amidst accusations that he's looking after himself somewhat in attempts to sell the club. One supporter said: “Ron Martin relinquished his moral right to prioritise his own interests some time ago. If he had done the right thing and put the club up for sale 12 to18 months ago, he might have had time to negotiate a better deal for himself. His pigheaded stubbornness or total delusion and denial has taken us into the last chance saloon, so he must take the hit on the chin and put the interests of Southend United Football Club first.”

Staff not paid in months, a player has now handed in his notice and the league might kick them out yet even if they survive.

Really sad state of affairs.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:04 am

He scored some really important goals in 81/82. Those two at Southend, the winner against Carlisle at the Turf and a first minute goal against Walsall stick in the mind!

TomtheClaret · Post by **TomtheClaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:17 am

Remember drinking with Rocky and my dad before the game. Rocky got kicked out, think it was the Waddle season? He tried to climb fence onto the pitch. Saw him after the game he was more ****** off that his new shirt was covered in anti vandalism paint

Mondsley · Post by **Mondsley** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:30 am

Was at the game in March 2007 with my lad. We lost 1 0 to a 90th minute goal. Seem to think it was in the endless non winning run under Steve Cotterell. How our fortunes have differed since.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:38 am

94/95 season ……. we beat them 5-1 at Turf with John Gayle scoring an implausible overhead kick.

I went down there for the return fixture where I think Kurt Nogan scored his first goal for us. I seem to remember us being 2-0 down very early on.

aclaretinstevenage · Post by **aclaretinstevenage** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:02 pm

Given another 42 days to sell.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:09 pm

Socrates wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:38 am
94/95 season ……. we beat them 5-1 at Turf with John Gayle scoring an implausible overhead kick.

I went down there for the return fixture where I think Kurt Nogan scored his first goal for us. I seem to remember us being 2-0 down very early on.

The away game was my Wedding day 8th of April ... remembee being in the Pub at the reception and nipping into the bar to see the results on the TV 3-1 loss

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:24 pm

I only ever went once to Southend. Dismal. Eveming game. That's all I remember.

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:29 pm

Bosscat wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:09 pm
The away game was my Wedding day 8th of April ... remembee being in the Pub at the reception and nipping into the bar to see the results on the TV 3-1 loss

Still married to the same lass though

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:15 pm

My mates lad plays for Southend , they can’t train as they haven’t got a physio, he’s been paid but not sure for how much longer .

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:20 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:24 pm
I only ever went once to Southend. Dismal. Eveming game. That's all I remember.

The 2-2 draw in 83/84 was a night game. Bobby Moore was manager at the time and I’m pretty sure that Trevor Whymark played for them. Last gasp equaliser from Billy Hamilton after we had gone 1-0 up through Tommy Hutch in the first half. The season was fizzling out fast by then

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:22 pm

Been twice, once on a Friday night in Jan 1986 when we won and then again early on in the Waddle season, where unsurprisingly we lost and didn't score. Again.

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:03 pm

Herts Clarets wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 1:22 pm
Been twice, once on a Friday night in Jan 1986 when we won and then again early on in the Waddle season, where unsurprisingly we lost and didn't score. Again.

In the Jan 86 game we got a late, late winner from Ray Deakin if I recall

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:06 pm

Culmclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:03 pm
In the Jan 86 game we got a late, late winner from Ray Deakin if I recall

Deakin scored but Alan Taylor scored the winner

https://www.uptheclarets.com/fixtures-r ... 86-results

Culmclaret · Post by **Culmclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:15 pm

You are right of course Tony. There was a flurry of goals between the 65th and 77th minutes!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:22 pm

Culmclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:15 pm
You are right of course Tony. There was a flurry of goals between the 65th and 77th minutes!

I wasn't - I had to look it up.

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 3:52 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:06 pm
Deakin scored but Alan Taylor scored the winner

https://www.uptheclarets.com/fixtures-r ... 86-results

I was on a CT/Box Car chara to that game. I was working at Oddies bakery at the time and Saturday morning was a working day, so it was not long after getting home that i was off to work. And the Saturday evening i went to a function for stevie2112 at the Sparrow Hawk. Maybe an engagement do or similar.

Wembley09 · Post by **Wembley09** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:34 pm

Hope they pull through, be sad to see another old club fall.

I remember a fair few years ago now, when they moved most of there home games to Friday night kick offs. I was always wondering why they were playing on Friday nights, till I searched online.

Apparently it was a fans favourite polled by the club. Friday night out in Southend, to get the younger people into Roots hall. Go on the game then to the pubs/clubs afterwards.

Stevie2112 · Post by **Stevie2112** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:41 pm

Correct Mark.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:42 pm

Southend had a very detailed warm up with lots of stretching and exercises in one forgettable game.
We came on kicked a few balls about and got absolutely thrashed. Don't remember the year we lost, but then I was on when we clinched promotion with Brian Laws scoring

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:32 pm

Wembley09 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:34 pm
Hope they pull through, be sad to see another old club fall.

I remember a fair few years ago now, when they moved most of there home games to Friday night kick offs. I was always wondering why they were playing on Friday nights, till I searched online.

Apparently it was a fans favourite polled by the club. Friday night out in Southend, to get the younger people into Roots hall. Go on the game then to the pubs/clubs afterwards.

Can a club decide when to play their games, just like that?

Targetman · Post by **Targetman** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:43 pm

Tranmere were another club who at one time used to play their home games on a Friday night.

Wembley09 · Post by **Wembley09** » Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:55 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:32 pm
Can a club decide when to play their games, just like that?

Can't find much on it now, but found this from 2012. Looks like they asked opposition teams to do it.

"Southend United have revealed they asked all the other League Two clubs to switch matches at Roots Hall to Friday evenings.

This week's opponents Scunthorpe have obliged, as have five other clubs.

Southend hopes to enhance the atmosphere and maybe even attract supporters from Premier League side West Ham.

"You can't help but have an atmosphere when the lights are on. The fans love watching the team playing on a Friday night," reports BBC Essex.

"We put it to every club we're playing on Saturday that we want to play on a Friday. Only six have said they'll do it .

"We might get one or two West Ham fans down and bolster the crowd."

This season's home fixtures against Bristol Rovers, Fleetwood, Mansfield, Rochdale and Newport have also been switched to Fridays.

Last week's 3-1 defeat by Morecambe was a Saturday match"

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 6:50 am

Up there with the most annoying games attended under Waddle, remember many were furious after the game. Did the traveller score?

We had a fair drink around town afters and ended up in a student bar.

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 7:32 am

Alison Moyet, a massive fan, will be All Cried Out when her beloved team are Invisible.
Best wishes to them in their struggles.

4:20 · Post by **4:20** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:25 am

That time we walloped them 5-1 at home when they wore our previous season's infamous green and black away shirt came after an eventful week. We'd played Port Vale at home on Boxing Day, went 1-0 up before they scored two worldies from outside the box to put them 1-2 up. The game ended up getting abandoned due to the waterlogged pitch. In the few days that followed, apparently, Jamie Holland was in a car accident and missed the match, John Deary was supposedly off to Wigan but ended up playing, Andy Saville and Craig Armstrong were brought in as loanees and made their debuts with Saville scoring and Southend left their kit behind.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:35 am

Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:15 am
And it was Southend who came to Turf Moor late season 1981/82 and beat us 3-5 when we were hopefully on our way to promotion. Former Bury centre forward, Derek Spence had an absolute worldie for them. Beat them 1-4 on penultimate game of the season a few weeks later to assure promotion after a dreadful start to the season.

That 4-1 win at their place was a great night out!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:47 am

Targetman wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:43 pm
Tranmere were another club who at one time used to play their home games on a Friday night.

Tranmere and Stockport played most of their home games on a Friday night for years to avoid clashing with Everton/Liverpool and City/United. I might be wrong on this but I'm sure I can recall the league bringing in a rule that limited the number of times they could do that in a season.

Cirrus_Minor · Post by **Cirrus_Minor** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:00 am

That's awful, always the fans that suffer. The financial disparity between the premium league and lower leagues always leaves these clubs vulnerable to dodgy owners. Not really a bad club, I remember Ray Ternent telling me about how much he liked it there.

Targetman · Post by **Targetman** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:05 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 13, 2023 8:47 am
Tranmere and Stockport played most of their home games on a Friday night for years to avoid clashing with Everton/Liverpool and City/United. I might be wrong on this but I'm sure I can recall the league bringing in a rule that limited the number of times they could do that in a season.

Yes Stockport was another, how could I forget visiting there on a Friday night!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:09 am

Targetman wrote: ↑
Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:05 am
Yes Stockport was another, how could I forget visiting there on a Friday night!

Virtually every home game at one point for both with one of the two big clubs close always being at home on the Saturday.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:14 am

Those two clubs were even allowed to move home games to a Friday on the final weekend of the season.

On 9th May 1987, we played Orient at home but Stockport v Southend and Tranmere v Exeter were played on the Friday night. Tranmere won 1-0 but had they lost that game they would have become the first team to be automatically relegated from the Football League. Quite how you could allow them to play before every other club is beyond me. By the time the rest of us kicked off, they knew they were safe.

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:24 pm

https://twitter.com/FBAwayDays/status/1 ... nfbwg&s=19
What a dump, sad to see.

Alanstevensonsgloves · Post by **Alanstevensonsgloves** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:56 am

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Sat Jul 15, 2023 9:24 pm
https://twitter.com/FBAwayDays/status/1 ... nfbwg&s=19
What a dump, sad to see.

Is Collymore still involved?

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 8:35 am

TomtheClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Jul 12, 2023 11:17 am
Remember drinking with Rocky and my dad before the game. Rocky got kicked out, think it was the Waddle season? He tried to climb fence onto the pitch. Saw him after the game he was more ****** off that his new shirt was covered in anti vandalism paint

I was going to say that was Shrewsbury, but I'm sure it happened to Rocky on more than one occasion.

Jjjack · Post by **Jjjack** » Thu Aug 24, 2023 1:24 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/66591344

Been granted a final amnesty until 4th October to change owners, docked 10 points and been warned that if not sorted by the next court date the club will be wound up.

"If this was not a football club, with the attachment of its fans, I would be winding it up today," Judge Sebastian Prentis said. "This has got to be sorted out".