Weghorst Reception

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:25 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:40 am
Weghorst being booed in a friendly is funny. Simple as that.
if you've not reached puberty
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:42 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:40 am
Weghorst being booed in a friendly is funny. Simple as that.
Simple is a good description of the people booing. :x
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by claret2018 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:49 pm

It’s funny because he’s a useless great lummox who the club should be doing everything they can to get off the books one way or another.

If I was as bad at my job as he has been the last 2 seasons I’d expect to be fired.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by JimmyRobbo » Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:51 pm

Booing your own players is utterly stupid.
It doesn't help the player and it reflects poorly on the club.
After all the good PR work which has promoted our image internationally we end up with headlines like:

https://thepeoplesperson.com/2023/07/23 ... ub-267023/
https://www.sportbible.com/football/pre ... 6-20230723

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by California Colner » Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:20 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:49 pm
It’s funny because he’s a useless great lummox who the club should be doing everything they can to get off the books one way or another.

If I was as bad at my job as he has been the last 2 seasons I’d expect to be fired.
Plays in the World Cup, gets into Man U team and you think he’s bad at his job!!!!
Maybe you should look at your analysis
He his a Burnley player and should be supported not booed by our own fans

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:22 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:49 pm
It’s funny because he’s a useless great lummox who the club should be doing everything they can to get off the books one way or another.

If I was as bad at my job as he has been the last 2 seasons I’d expect to be fired.
When he leaves you won’t be expecting the club to receive much in the way of a fee then?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Pearcey » Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:27 pm

The booing is 100% embarrassing but it might mean that the normal fans show him some support come the start of the season.
Saying that, I still think he’ll move on.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by aggi » Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:28 pm

Claretnick wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 11:55 am
Fully agree with this, the club and Wout badly mishandled his departure last summer. He should have said nothing and the club could have spinned it that his loan move was required to help our finances following relegation. There would be none of this nonsense now in my opinion.
I just hope we can move on, an early goal in the PL from him would help, or a transfer that's beneficial to all. UTC
That's not really what I'm saying. Football fans shouldn't be so soft as to take anything but gushing enthusiasm for the club as a personal slight. Then we might actually get to hear a bit of insight.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by louieollie » Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:31 pm

I do half wonder if this incident could be a watershed moment and be the catalyst for the club to actually come together and back Wout. It's a mightily embarrassing step back for the club after so much good PR work done, possibly a real chance for the minority to be ousted and their neanderthal beliefs booted from the in the main realistic and intelligent fan base.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by jrgbfc » Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:44 pm

The eyes of the world will be on the Turf at the City game, will be hugely embarrassing if we boo one of our own players.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Carwin261 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:55 pm

louieollie wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:31 pm
I do half wonder if this incident could be a watershed moment and be the catalyst for the club to actually come together and back Wout. It's a mightily embarrassing step back for the club after so much good PR work done, possibly a real chance for the minority to be ousted and their neanderthal beliefs booted from the in the main realistic and intelligent fan base.
Have you done a survey that shows it’s the minority that don’t want WW? apart from on this MB I
haven’t spoken to anyone who wants him back ,and majority of people I speak to aren’t Neanderthals ,or senile ,but over a certain age.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:58 pm

louieollie wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:31 pm
I do half wonder if this incident could be a watershed moment and be the catalyst for the club to actually come together and back Wout. It's a mightily embarrassing step back for the club after so much good PR work done, possibly a real chance for the minority to be ousted and their neanderthal beliefs booted from the in the main realistic and intelligent fan base.
I’m not sure the Weghorst out brigade are the minority

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:59 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:55 pm
Have you done a survey that shows it’s the minority that don’t want WW? apart from on this MB I
haven’t spoken to anyone who wants him back ,and majority of people I speak to aren’t Neanderthals ,or senile ,but over a certain age.
If it is the manager VK that wants to give him a second chance and bring him back into the fold what then?

Sack VK?
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Carwin261 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:00 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:58 pm
I’m not sure the Weghorst out brigade are the minority
Just what I thought,some on this board will be saying it’s the Brexiteers that booed him next.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:00 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 1:59 pm
A guy agrees to sign for a football club when that football club are at the bottom of the division and looking odds on for relegation. That club requires all players to agree relegation clauses that reduce wages if/when the club is relegated. At the same time, the guy's national team manager has announced that his world cup squad will only have places for footballers playing in top divisions. What does anyone think the conversation will be between the club trying to sign this player and the player and his agent?

The club and the player did the right thing, they both signed a contract that included a loan spell away from the club in the event the club got relegated.

Some on here claim their right to express their negative feelings about the situation as though someone has done something wrong.

Meanwhile we have another thread where lots of posters are showing their concerns for a poster who has shared information about his personal life.
Some people clearly don't agree with them version of events & think he has behaved inappropriately & on that basis booing is a valid course of action. I agree with what you have stated but I also realise & understand some people clearly see things differently.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Cooclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:01 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:00 pm
Just what I thought,some on this board will be saying it’s the Brexiteers that booed him next.
No one should be boo’d full stop. It’s a pathetic way to behave.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:01 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:00 pm
Just what I thought,some on this board will be saying it’s the Brexiteers that booed him next.
Not all brexiteers booed Weghorst but everyone who booed Weghorst was a brexiteer.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:08 pm

Leave means leave.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:09 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:44 pm
The eyes of the world will be on the Turf at the City game, will be hugely embarrassing if we boo one of our own players.
Perhaps some Weghorst supporters will invade the pitch scattering Orange confetti to show support for the Dutchman :D

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:11 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:08 pm
Leave means leave.
And just look how that’s turned out :(
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:21 pm

imagine if we agree a fee for Tella and he turns us down, those who boo won't be able to contain themselves should we play Southampton in the cup
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by claret2018 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:25 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 3:22 pm
When he leaves you won’t be expecting the club to receive much in the way of a fee then?
I’d be impressed if we got a fee

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by HahaYeah » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:43 pm

D'heads booing Weggie won't be pushing the price up.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:03 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:25 pm
I’d be impressed if we got a fee
Seriously.
Current Dutch international with 2 goals at recent World Cup and you don't think he has a value?
Not even say 5 million?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by claret2018 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:05 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:03 pm
Seriously.
Current Dutch international with 2 goals at recent World Cup and you don't think he has a value?
Not even say 5 million?
I’m not sure how much longer he can dine out on those 2 goals

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:24 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:05 pm
I’m not sure how much longer he can dine out on those 2 goals
Maybe a fair point, but seriously? You think he has no sell-on value?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Cooclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:26 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:25 pm
I’d be impressed if we got a fee
This is the current level of insight this board has to offer. Christ on a bike but it’s painful…

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by AfloatinClaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:34 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:05 pm
I’m not sure how much longer he can dine out on those 2 goals
Certainly far longer than any of our other current strikers and I'd guess yourself too, will be able to dine out on their WC goals.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by depechedingle » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:38 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:49 pm
It’s funny because he’s a useless great lummox who the club should be doing everything they can to get off the books one way or another.

If I was as bad at my job as he has been the last 2 seasons I’d expect to be fired.
The only thing impressive Claret2018, about your comments is your typing skills for a 5 year old, I will steer well clear of crediting you with anything near knowledge.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Leisure » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:49 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:49 pm
It’s funny because he’s a useless great lummox who the club should be doing everything they can to get off the books one way or another.

If I was as bad at my job as he has been the last 2 seasons I’d expect to be fired.
Suppose that's why he didn't play in the World Cup! Oh, wait! :D

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by claret2018 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:55 pm

Ok I’m wrong, Weghorst is a brilliant footballer who is well suited to the PL and should be first name on the team sheet every week.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by claret2018 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:57 pm

depechedingle wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:38 pm
The only thing impressive Claret2018, about your comments is your typing skills for a 5 year old, I will steer well clear of crediting you with anything near knowledge.
??

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by taio » Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:58 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:55 pm
Ok I’m wrong, Weghorst is a brilliant footballer who is well suited to the PL and should be first name on the team sheet every week.
I've got a suspicion he's somewhere between worthless and brilliance

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by claret2018 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:00 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:58 pm
I've got a suspicion he's somewhere between worthless and brilliance
That’s probably about right to be fair

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by jedi_master » Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:00 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:55 pm
Ok I’m wrong, Weghorst is a brilliant footballer who is well suited to the PL and should be first name on the team sheet every week.
I don’t think anyone’s saying that.

Heck, I started this thread and I personally do not rate him one bit - but that is irrelevant to the point here. No matter what he has ‘done’, no matter his performances for us, there is no excuse whatsoever for booing him and calling him a ****** when he’s an active Burnley player wearing our shirt, selected by Kompany.

We need to get behind him if he’s sticking around - this is what the manager would want and rightly expect. Everyone would probably agree that Weghorst has everything to prove for Burnley, but he’s not going to succeed here if he’s getting pelters from us.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by claret2018 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:03 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:00 pm
I don’t think anyone’s saying that.

Heck, I started this thread and I personally do not rate him one bit - but that is irrelevant to the point here. No matter what he has ‘done’, no matter his performances for us, there is no excuse whatsoever for booing him and calling him a ****** when he’s an active Burnley player wearing our shirt, selected by Kompany.

We need to get behind him if he’s sticking around - this is what the manager would want and rightly expect. Everyone would probably agree that Weghorst has everything to prove for Burnley, but he’s not going to succeed here if he’s getting pelters from us.
I think it’s his perceived arrogance that is so at odds with his ability that leads me to find the whole booing thing amusing.

I’ve sort of written him off as a Burnley player and don’t expect to see him play a competitive game for us again, but who knows.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by HahaYeah » Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:08 pm

Vinnie wanted an intimidating atmosphere from our fans but I don't think abusing our own players is what he had in mind.
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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Carwin261 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:17 pm

depechedingle wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:38 pm
The only thing impressive Claret2018, about your comments is your typing skills for a 5 year old, I will steer well clear of crediting you with anything near knowledge.
Why start being personal ?his point is as valid has yours ,at least he’s not being childish.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:17 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:17 pm
Why start being personal ?his point is as valid has yours ,at least he’s not being childish.
Your grammar skills are certainly childish.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Casper2 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:20 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:00 pm
I don’t think anyone’s saying that.

Heck, I started this thread and I personally do not rate him one bit - but that is irrelevant to the point here. No matter what he has ‘done’, no matter his performances for us, there is no excuse whatsoever for booing him and calling him a ****** when he’s an active Burnley player wearing our shirt, selected by Kompany.

We need to get behind him if he’s sticking around - this is what the manager would want and rightly expect. Everyone would probably agree that Weghorst has everything to prove for Burnley, but he’s not going to succeed here if he’s getting pelters from us.


not sure I would call it pelters when it was only a few fans booing

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:33 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 6:00 pm
I don’t think anyone’s saying that.

Heck, I started this thread and I personally do not rate him one bit - but that is irrelevant to the point here. No matter what he has ‘done’, no matter his performances for us, there is no excuse whatsoever for booing him and calling him a ****** when he’s an active Burnley player wearing our shirt, selected by Kompany.

We need to get behind him if he’s sticking around - this is what the manager would want and rightly expect. Everyone would probably agree that Weghorst has everything to prove for Burnley, but he’s not going to succeed here if he’s getting pelters from us.
He has proved through his performances for us and Man Utd, he cannot score in the premier league. So he is as much use as a chocolate fireguard. No amount of support from the fans is going to change that. And his antics have turned a lot of fans against him.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:39 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:33 pm
He has proved through his performances for us and Man Utd, he cannot score in the premier league. So he is as much use as a chocolate fireguard. No amount of support from the fans is going to change that. And his antics have turned a lot of fans against him.
You're right. I'm convinced now. Let's all boo him.

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:49 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:39 pm
You're right. I'm convinced now. Let's all boo him.

BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Never said we should boo him, just understand why some will.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:54 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:49 pm
Never said we should boo him, just understand why some will.
Some people struggle to differentiate the 2 things, understanding something doesn't mean it meets your approval it just simply means you are adult & open minded enough to accept alternative viewpoints despite being in disagreement.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:16 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:49 pm
Never said we should boo him, just understand why some will.
Absolute rubbish.

There's no excuse for booing one of your own players.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Carwin261 » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:20 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 7:17 pm
Your grammar skills are certainly childish.
Have you’ve always been a knob,or is it something you’ve practiced over the years?

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by fidelcastro » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:21 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:20 pm
Have you’ve always been a knob,or is it something you’ve practiced over the years?
*practised

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Spiral » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:23 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:16 pm
Absolute rubbish.

There's no excuse for booing one of your own players.
Explaining something is not the same as excusing it. People absolutely need to be responsible for their actions, but there's another layer above it where you can theorise without condoning why a person behaves a certain way.

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Wokingclaret » Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:54 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 8:16 pm
Absolute rubbish.

There's no excuse for booing one of your own players.
There was certainly a lot of booing in the 80's at the final whistle

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Re: Weghorst Reception

Post by Big Vinny K » Sun Jul 23, 2023 9:16 pm

claret2018 wrote:
Sun Jul 23, 2023 2:49 pm
It’s funny because he’s a useless great lummox who the club should be doing everything they can to get off the books one way or another.

If I was as bad at my job as he has been the last 2 seasons I’d expect to be fired.
This is just a wild stab in the dark but my guess is that someone who has played for Man United and in the World Cup in the last year might be better at his job than you are at yours. Maybe you should hand your notice in ?
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