5th Ashes test

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:15 pm

Aussies definitely favourites now - we need lots of rain

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:26 pm

Has Stokes just thrown away the game?

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:26 pm

Ridiculous

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:27 pm

Really strange review

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:27 pm

I'm afraid England are. going to have to learn some harsh lessons from this series

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:38 pm

I always hate it when fielders throw it away instantly.

I think more of them should be called as not in control, if honest.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:39 pm

He didn’t throw it away, his hand hit his thigh on the way down which dislodged the ball. Incredibly unlucky.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:41 pm

Unlucky, but that is a dropped catch

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:44 pm

Does Ponting ever stop whinging

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:08 pm

I know people disagree but this test has highlighted exactly why Anderson should not have been selected. He’s just not been threatening all series

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:08 pm
I know people disagree but this test has highlighted exactly why Anderson should not have been selected. He’s just not been threatening all series

Your needle's stuck pal. Seriously.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:12 pm

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:11 pm
Your needle's stuck pal. Seriously.

You didn't think he was going to miss a chance did you ? Wait while Brownhill makes an error next season

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:20 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:39 pm
He didn’t throw it away, his hand hit his thigh on the way down which dislodged the ball. Incredibly unlucky.

As he was in the process of going to throw the ball in the air.
Sadly, that dropped catch is yet another example of England making stupid mistakes/errors at critical points in the game and should be filed under ‘schoolboy’ error along with far too many errors this series. As a previous poster said, we have got to start learning from these basic errors by taking some responsibility if we are to fall on the right side of these closely fought series.

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:25 pm

Ampth7 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:20 pm
As he was in the process of going to throw the ball in the air.
Sadly, that dropped catch is yet another example of England making stupid mistakes/errors at critical points in the game and should be filed under ‘schoolboy’ error along with far too many errors this series. As a previous poster said, we have got to start learning from these basic errors by taking some responsibility if we are to fall on the right side of these closely fought series.

Don’t think that’s the case at all. Both his arms came up to shoulder level naturally to balance himself.

dandeclaret · Post by **dandeclaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:29 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:08 pm
I know people disagree but this test has highlighted exactly why Anderson should not have been selected. He’s just not been threatening all series

It's all those flat pitches, with no swing....

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:32 pm

Stokes was absolutely in the process of chucking that up in the air, he literally brought his arm round in a circular motion to chuck it back up in the air.

Absolute pet peeve and I think these should get called moreZ

I think you should have a solid control of the ball for over a second

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:34 pm

Ampth7 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:20 pm
As he was in the process of going to throw the ball in the air.
Sadly, that dropped catch is yet another example of England making stupid mistakes/errors at critical points in the game and should be filed under ‘schoolboy’ error along with far too many errors this series. As a previous poster said, we have got to start learning from these basic errors by taking some responsibility if we are to fall on the right side of these closely fought series.

I'm sure he would have thrown the ball up but his arm was still making a natural movement as part of taking the catch which is why he was not deemed "in control". Impossible to say whether the thought of throwing the ball made any difference.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:36 pm

We want rain, we want rain!

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:45 pm

This England team has become pretty good at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:56 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:08 pm
I know people disagree but this test has highlighted exactly why Anderson should not have been selected. He’s just not been threatening all series

If he wasn't a Burnley lad most people would be agreeing with you.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:00 pm

dandeclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:29 pm
It's all those flat pitches, with no swing....

Tends to be accurate.

Hasn’t the average amount of swing this series been 0.36 of a degree. Apparently the lowest in a home series since we played Pakistan in 2006.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:01 pm

jrgbfc wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:56 pm
If he wasn't a Burnley lad most people would be agreeing with you.

Unless he dramatically turns it round in the last few hours it will statistically be the worst series of his career for England.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:02 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:00 pm
Tends to be accurate.

Hasn’t the average amount of swing this series been 0.36 of a degree. Apparently the lowest in a home series since we played Pakistan in 2006.

Been weird hasn’t it. Not like there hasn’t been cloudy conditions, there has for most of it!

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:06 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:02 pm
Been weird hasn’t it. Not like there hasn’t been cloudy conditions, there has for most of it!

There’s been all sorts of theory’s as to why this has been the case, but the general conclusion seems to be the ball.

Stephen Finn also mentioned that he believes it’s been a tactic of the bowlers, he believes they identified seam movement as a better way to bowl at the Aussies. Personally not sure I agree

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:16 pm

Interestingly, if it does stop raining soon, the point has been made that there might not be enough time for Australia to win the match, but they could certainly lose it with a couple of quick wickets.

Lip · Post by **Lip** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:23 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:16 pm
Interestingly, if it does stop raining soon, the point has been made that there might not be enough time for Australia to win the match, but they could certainly lose it with a couple of quick wickets.

Brilliant

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:37 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 1:39 pm
He didn’t throw it away, his hand hit his thigh on the way down which dislodged the ball. Incredibly unlucky.

Either what you implied or incredibly careless.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 3:43 pm

Quicknick wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:36 pm
We want rain, we want rain!

The sun will be breaking through the clouds anytime about now

Ampth7 · Post by **Ampth7** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:13 pm

martin_p wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 2:25 pm
Don’t think that’s the case at all. Both his arms came up to shoulder level naturally to balance himself.

Fair enough opinion, but I don’t agree. I think he knows exactly what he’s trying to do there and he should have been much more careful in holding the ball. He caught it above his head, I see no reason why his hand couldn’t have stayed up there to be honest to confirm he has control of the ball! Interesting to hear what he says when he is inevitably asked the question, if he hasn’t already been asked?

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:20 pm

4 hours play left in the day (52 Overs)

Game On all to play for.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:25 pm

Get your shirt on the crims if the weather looks like holding.

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:45 pm

I imagine there is rain incoming the draw has just gone from 11/2 to 9/4 in the space of 3 balls

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:51 pm

Mo gets head

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:52 pm

Head gone, this is going to be one helluva finish.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:53 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 4:51 pm
Mo gets head

They should get a room.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:00 pm

England were a very tasty 7/1 now best priced 7/2.

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:01 pm

Can this series get any better? Thought that Smith was going to see the Aussies home.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:02 pm

Excellent catch Bairstow

Gp8419 · Post by **Gp8419** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:03 pm

Why would we want rain? Would rather try and draw 2-2 than get Beat 2-1 rather than 3-1 I don’t get it?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:03 pm

Is Bairstow the best keeper in the world right now?

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:04 pm

Come on people, give Bairstow some credit for that!!!!!

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:04 pm

In all seriousness is there a more underrated all rounder in world cricket than Woakes. The bloke is top quality

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:05 pm

kentonclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:00 pm
England were a very tasty 7/1 now best priced 7/2.

England 6/4

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:06 pm

Amazing by Bairstow and credit to Marsh for actually walking. Not sure umpire was going to give it Game on now

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:06 pm

Credit to Marsh for walking.

taio · Post by **taio** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:06 pm

Get in Woakes again

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:07 pm

Magic

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:07 pm

taio wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:06 pm
Get in Woakes again

Unbelievable turnaround

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:08 pm

Am I seeing things, is this actually happening?

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Mon Jul 31, 2023 5:09 pm

Never give up.