Trafford

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

15 million wow. Really struggling to see how he is better than Muric.

[Wembley09]

Not many GK do well at a young age, but VK must see something in him.
So long as we didn't guarantee him a regular first team place if he signed for us.

It's been a tough 3 games, he doesn't seem as good on the ball as Muric.. but I think Muric would have let in alot too with our defending in-front of him.
I think he's definitely got potential, coming from City and his record for the England youth team.. but sometimes you need more than potential in the PL.

I'll judge him against some of the 'easier' teams.

[CohibaClaret]

He’s not better than Muric. He is a development player and should be used as such. Can’t believe how easily the good things of last season were so easily thrown over board. Muric, Brownhill, Taylor. Also in the transfers. Throwing 15 mio on Berge but not paying this for Tella who was the best attacking player. Sorry for the negativity but we had a good thing going and ruined it by acting like Chelsea and their owner. Buying loads of players but not building an actual team and not trusting the lads that were performing last season.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Apart from Muric playing a massive part of a Championship winning team?

You don’t think Trafford would have done the exact same?

Let’s not kid ourselves we would have won the championship with Peacock Farrell in net all season.

[boatshed bill]

You don’t think Trafford would have done the exact same?

Let’s not kid ourselves we would have won the championship with Peacock Farrell in net all season.

I'm not so sure about that.
Muric's distribution was a major factor in our tactics and, consequently, our results.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I'm not so sure about that.
Muric's distribution was a major factor in our tactics and, consequently, our results.

Peacock farrel (even though a smaller number of games to get data from) had a better win rate and a better clean sheet rate.

I don’t think it’s out of the question to suggest that we would have still ran away with the league.

[ksrclaret]

Muric is the better goalkeeper right now.

How do we know this? Because we have eyes.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Muric is the better goalkeeper right now.

How do we know this? Because we have eyes.

Clearly you have better eyes than our premier league winning manager then

[Wembley09]

You don’t think Trafford would have done the exact same?

Let’s not kid ourselves we would have won the championship with Peacock Farrell in net all season.

BPF would never have had the calmness that Muric showed last season.
There was times when even our fans were having an heart attack, while Muric casually turned an attacking player.. passing it to a team-mate.

[ksrclaret]

Clearly you have better eyes than our premier league winning manager then

Must do.

Muric will be back in against Forest on the 18th.

I feel for Trafford but he ain't ready.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Must do.

Muric will be back in against Forest on the 18th.

I feel for Trafford but he ain't ready.

I hope he does so we can finally end these nonsense threads

[boatshed bill]

Peacock farrel (even though a smaller number of games to get data from) had a better win rate and a better clean sheet rate.

I don’t think it’s out of the question to suggest that we would have still ran away with the league.

Very possibly, but that doesn't detract from the fact that Muric's distribution was a major tactical factor in our success.

[Rick_Muller]

Read your own post … compare it to my response.

And the award for the most cryptic (read BS) response goes to….

[ksrclaret]

I hope he does so we can finally end these nonsense threads

By the way, you aren't in any position to get on your high horse about people questioning the manager's decisions after all the utter tripe you've posted down the years.

Muric is better right now. End of.

[Sheedyclaret]

BPF distribution was awful to

[Newcastleclaret93]

By the way, you aren't in any position to get on your high horse about people questioning the manager's decisions after all the utter tripe you've posted down the years.

Muric is better right now. End of.

The messiah has spoken.


If Muric is our best keeper we might as well call it a day. There’s a reason the club spent 20m on Trafford. It’s because he’s light a day a better keeper.

I really hope Muric does start the next game in the league. He will struggle with the step up and we can finally end this nonsense

[helmclaret]

So you want Muric to be picked and then fail?

[Newcastleclaret93]

So you want Muric to be picked and then fail?

I don’t want him to fail. But I know he will

[MDWat]

There’s a lot of over the top reactions this evening, although that’s something we’ve become accustomed to on this messageboard.

Trafford will be an excellent goalkeeper and will get a lot of England caps. His distribution is pretty decent and will only get better. If we wish to seek a return on players like this, they need to play and get experience. At the same time, the manager needs to make the right call with taking him out if it all gets a bit too much.

That might be a tad early right now 3 games in, but I’ll trust the manager to make that call.

Trafford did little wrong today.

[ksrclaret]

The messiah has spoken.


If Muric is our best keeper we might as well call it a day. There’s a reason the club spent 20m on Trafford. It’s because he’s light a day a better keeper.

I really hope Muric does start the next game in the league. He will struggle with the step up and we can finally end this nonsense

Yes the messiah has spoken, and he says Muric is the better keeper right now. End of.

Interesting that you want Muric to fail when he starts, though. Sums you up.

I like Trafford by the way, but he's not ready and the comment on him being "light a day a better keeper", whatever that actually means, is the only nonsense being spoken on this thread.

[boatshed bill]

For any one who doubts it:
Muric's anticipation and sharp, accurate, passing was unbelievably good.
This, of course applies only to the Championship level of football.
Whether he would be able to replicate this in the PL remains to be seen.
I wouldn't use his performances as a yardstick with which to measure Trafford's PL start

[burnleymik]

I don’t want him to fail. But I know he will

Did he fail Wednesday against PL opposition?

[123EasyasBFC]

The messiah has spoken.


If Muric is our best keeper we might as well call it a day. There’s a reason the club spent 20m on Trafford. It’s because he’s light a day a better keeper.

I really hope Muric does start the next game in the league. He will struggle with the step up and we can finally end this nonsense

What have you seen so far to say Trafford is light and day a better keeper than muric? No doubting the potential in Trafford but you are very much in the Taylor doesn’t suit the system camp. There is no chance right now Trafford is better suited to the system than Muric

[helmclaret]

There’s a lot of over the top reactions this evening, although that’s something we’ve become accustomed to on this messageboard.

Trafford will be an excellent goalkeeper and will get a lot of England caps. His distribution is pretty decent and will only get better. If we wish to seek a return on players like this, they need to play and get experience. At the same time, the manager needs to make the right call with taking him out if it all gets a bit too much.

That might be a tad early right now 3 games in, but I’ll trust the manager to make that call.

Trafford did little wrong today.

Joe Hart did little wrong when he was in the team, but the team didn’t function as well as it did with Heaton back in.

[CoolClaret]

The messiah has spoken.


If Muric is our best keeper we might as well call it a day. There’s a reason the club spent 20m on Trafford. It’s because he’s light a day a better keeper.

I really hope Muric does start the next game in the league. He will struggle with the step up and we can finally end this nonsense

You’re mad for this mate.

The argument from ‘cost of transfer fee’ is just ********.

Just to show you how insane it is:

Ben Mee cost us what, around 300k?

Ben Gibson cost us what, around 15 mill?

Come on man

[Newcastleclaret93]

Yes the messiah has spoken, and he says Muric is the better keeper right now. End of.

Interesting that you want Muric to fail when he starts, though. Sums you up.

I like Trafford by the way, but he's not ready and the comment on him being "light a day a better keeper", whatever that actually means, is the only nonsense being spoken on this thread.

I literally just said I don’t want him to fail.

But I know he’s not good enough for the prem, he will fail and it finally end this pointless discussion.

It’s not nonsense though is it. I assume you think VK doesn’t know what he is doing then? If you think it’s so clear Muric is better

[MDWat]

Joe Hart did little wrong when he was in the team, but the team didn’t function as well as it did with Heaton back in.

I said exactly the same on the game today. Personally I’d have Muric in at the moment.

[BurnleyFC]

Not Trafford’s fault, but he isn’t yet ready for Premier League football. He looks so nervous.

This one is on VInny and his coaching team.

[Newcastleclaret93]

What have you seen so far to say Trafford is light and day a better keeper than muric? No doubting the potential in Trafford but you are very much in the Taylor doesn’t suit the system camp. There is no chance right now Trafford is better suited to the system than Muric

In my opinion we lose by 6-7 if Muric is in goal today. He doesn’t make some of the top saves that Trafford does today.

[BurnleyFC]

You’re mad for this mate.

The argument from ‘cost of transfer fee’ is just ********.

Just to show you how insane it is:

Ben Mee cost us what, around 300k?

Ben Gibson cost us what, around 15 mill?

Come on man

Take no ******* notice. Should change his username to Newcastle Brown because he must’ve been on it.

[ksrclaret]

I literally just said I don’t want him to fail.

But I know he’s not good enough for the prem, he will fail and it finally end this pointless discussion.

It’s not nonsense though is it. I assume you think VK doesn’t know what he is doing then? If you think it’s so clear Muric is better

I always remember a comment from you on the Boro away thread on the night we won the league. When Muric did well to claim a corner, you commented "it's a miracle the bloke actually caught a ball".

When an agenda is as strong as this, it's hard to have a logical conversation with someone. Have a good evening pal.

[123EasyasBFC]

In my opinion we lose by 6-7 if Muric is in goal today. He doesn’t make some of the top saves that Trafford does today.

What top saves did Trafford make? He made a regulation save in the first half against Maddison that every keeper would save. His distribution (which is key for how we play) isn’t good enough right now

[Newcastleclaret93]

I always remember a comment from you on the Boro away thread on the night we won the league. When Muric did well to claim a corner, you commented "it's a miracle the bloke actually caught a ball".

When an agenda is as strong as this, it's hard to have a logical conversation with someone. Have a good evening pal.

Clearly VK agrees with my sentiment given he’s quickly dropped him.

I will never ever understand the people calling for Muric. It’s like you watched a different player, he was liability for large swaithes last season against considerably worse opposition.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

What top saves did Trafford make? He made a regulation save in the first half against Maddison that every keeper would save. His distribution (which is key for how we play) isn’t good enough right now

You are replying to an internet troll.

[burnleymik]

Clearly VK agrees with my sentiment given he’s quickly dropped him.

I will never ever understand the people calling for Muric. It’s like you watched a different player, he was liability for large swaithes last season against considerably worse opposition.

[Elizabeth]

haha, I'll open whatever thread I want and discuss whatever I want and I wont complain about it, you on the other hand have seemingly opened this one up to complain about it, weird.

What is wrong with you today? You have completely got the wrong end of the stick

[Newcastleclaret93]

You are replying to an internet troll.

Ok we are back to name calling. Why can’t people just discuss things

[Wembley09]

That's some assumption NewcastleClaret.
Maybe Muric would have cancelled out some of Spurs pressure with assurance on the ball.. breaking up more of their attacks.

[Swizzlestick]

Careful you might get called out for ‘bullying’ for arguing against this drivel.

[Newcastleclaret93]

That's some assumption NewcastleClaret.
Maybe Muric would have cancelled out some of Spurs pressure with assurance on the ball.. breaking up more of their attacks.

Potentially but from what I saw today I don’t think it would have mattered who was in goal.

We have much much bigger issues than which keeper is in net facing 15-16 shots per game

[123EasyasBFC]

In my opinion we lose by 6-7 if Muric is in goal today. He doesn’t make some of the top saves that Trafford does today.

The game is all about opinions but for home much you in the past have mentioned certain players not suiting the system, mainly Taylor and brownhill, I can’t believe you have watched Trafford in 3 games albeit against better opposition as being better suited to the system than Muric

[Targetman]

I always remember a comment from you on the Boro away thread on the night we won the league. When Muric did well to claim a corner, you commented "it's a miracle the bloke actually caught a ball".

When an agenda is as strong as this, it's hard to have a logical conversation with someone. Have a good evening pal.

Its best just to ignore this poster however difficult that might be.

He says he is Burnley fan but never goes to any games and yet somehow knows more about our team than anyone else!

[Newcastleclaret93]

The game is all about opinions but for home much you in the past have mentioned certain players not suiting the system, mainly Taylor and brownhill, I can’t believe you have watched Trafford in 3 games albeit against better opposition as being better suited to the system than Muric

I think he is better suited, predominantly because a keeper in the premier league has to be able to do more than pass.

I think this is why VK signed him. His distribution is to a high enough standard and his keeping ability is better than Murics. We are facing north of 15 shots a game, our keeper has to be a top shot stopper and from what I have seen Trafford definitely is.

[Vegas Claret]

What is wrong with you today? You have completely got the wrong end of the stick

yep, I just re-read what you actually put rather than what I thought you put. Apologies !!

[Newcastleclaret93]

Its best just to ignore this poster however difficult that might be.

He says he is Burnley fan but never goes to any games and yet somehow knows more about our team than anyone else!

Foe me then. It’s really not difficult.

Apologies for living so far away Targetman il move closer to the turf so I can attend every game

[Elizabeth]

It is absolutely not Scapegoating to think Muric is better than Trafford. (Which I do bye the way as it stands). That’s not to say Trafford won’t go on to be better than Muric long term, but that is not a reason to keep playing him now.

I’ve a suggestion for you. Let him play without constantly getting on his back. He’s good enough to be Kompany’s choice.
Your opinion doesn’t matter , like others you like to dress your criticism up

[123EasyasBFC]

I think he is better suited, predominantly because a keeper in the premier league has to be able to do more than pass.

I think this is why VK signed him. His distribution is to a high enough standard and his keeping ability is better than Murics. We are facing north of 15 shots a game, our keeper has to be a top shot stopper and from what I have seen Trafford definitely is.

I don’t know what game you watched today then if you think his distribution was at a good enough standard and I’m waiting for you to point out which massive saves Trafford made today that muric wouldn’t of done

[Newcastleclaret93]

I don’t know what game you watched today then if you think his distribution was at a good enough standard and I’m waiting for you to point out which massive saves Trafford made today that muric wouldn’t of done

The one in the first half diving to his left, not sure who shot.

But Muric wouldn’t have got to that.

When highlights come out il time stamp

[Elizabeth]

yep, I just re-read what you actually put rather than what I thought you put. Apologies !!

Ok Vegas , I thought it was not like you

[boatshed bill]

I think he is better suited, predominantly because a keeper in the premier league has to be able to do more than pass.

I think this is why VK signed him. His distribution is to a high enough standard and his keeping ability is better than Murics. We are facing north of 15 shots a game, our keeper has to be a top shot stopper and from what I have seen Trafford definitely is.

Distribution...OK
Anticipation, and quick passing: not a patch on Muric's