Drummers required...DRUMMERS

[Bfc]

IF the Club allows a person to bang a drum, that will be enough for me to stay away from games, after being a regular supporter for 70 years and that will break my heart. But I feel so strongly against the idea, I will go ahead with my threat.

Could the drumstick be classed as an offensive weapon, in the wrong hands?.
The lack of atmosphere in this seasons games is a result of the managers tactic of playing most of our football around 1 to 30 yds from our goal line. Those tactics kill any excitement for me and I suspect a lot more people’s enjoyment. If the ball was played more frequently in the opposition half, we would have more reason to create an atmosphere and get behind the team.

Would our and the opposition supporters then be allowed to bring drums on, as the Club appear to approving the idea.
Mr Pace you and your sidekicks, forget the idea and talk your manager into playing football in the part of the pitch, where we’re likely to have a chance of scoring goals, which would create something for US to shout about, instead of a *******drum.

[Nonayforever]

Pom Pom cheerleaders, a Drummer and goal music, It all sounds wonderful, I just can’t wait for that Mach Day Experience.

You missed out the Mexican wave

[gandhisflipflop]

IF the Club allows a person to bang a drum, that will be enough for me to stay away from games, after being a regular supporter for 70 years and that will break my heart. But I feel so strongly against the idea, I will go ahead with my threat.

Could the drumstick be classed as an offensive weapon, in the wrong hands?.
The lack of atmosphere in this seasons games is a result of the managers tactic of playing most of our football around 1 to 30 yds from our goal line. Those tactics kill any excitement for me and I suspect a lot more people’s enjoyment. If the ball was played more frequently in the opposition half, we would have more reason to create an atmosphere and get behind the team.

Would our and the opposition supporters then be allowed to bring drums on, as the Club appear to approving the idea.
Mr Pace you and your sidekicks, forget the idea and talk your manager into playing football in the part of the pitch, where we’re likely to have a chance of scoring goals, which would create something for US to shout about, instead of a *******drum.

Jesus wept

[Vegas Claret]

I've still not read anyone coming up with an alternative and that's the issue the club have. On a side note, who are the FAB, how where they chosen and are they truly representative ? It's not an accusation btw, it's a few questions.

[dandeclaret]

COME ONNN….. BURNLEYYYY

FIGHHHHTT…. AND WINNN!!!!

That’s American soccer razzamatazz right there….. totally different to American sports which are out of the world…. But i don’t remember seeing ir hearing a drummer at NBA, NHL or MLB or NFL….

[Minimoog]

Try getting them to turn up to rehearsals on a regular basis though
I’m neither a shoutist or a knob twiddler,I’m a bass player which technically makes me the cool one haha

I'm at rehearsal now.. Watching a lot of twiddling of knobs..
We're currently killing boys are back in town....

[fidelcastro]

Haven't got time to read all the thread, but it's a NO from me.

[Vegas Claret]

Haven't got time to read all the thread, but it's a NO from me.

miserable **** I can just imagine you with a drumstick at the top of the Cricketfield smashing the **** out of someon sorry I meant drum

[Carwin261]

Put it in the Bob Lord Stand, I SAID PUT IT IN THE BOB LORD STAND..

You can do one ,us old gets don’t need a chuffing drum.

[Woodleyclaret]

Spot on BFC a sensible post with positive comments

[Funkydrummer]

Not sure where you sit but the PA is hardly audible where we are. This season the ground I’ve been on where it was really blasted out was Forest.

We're at the Jimmy Mac end of the Bob Lord on row D and it's horrendous. The volume under the stands used to be the same but is much better now after complaining a time or two.

[LongSider75]

No, No, No. We do not need drummers, never have never will. Get with the BFC programme.

[ClaretTony]

We're at the Jimmy Mac end of the Bob Lord on row D and it's horrendous. The volume under the stands used to be the same but is much better now after complaining a time or two.

Sometimes can hardly hear it in the Longside upper.

[Funkydrummer]

Sometimes can hardly hear it in the Longside upper.

Maybe someone's got fed with it and cut the speaker cables.
Sounds a good idea

[scouseclaret]

It’s a colossally **** idea, but we do need to do something to improve the atmosphere. Winning a game might be a start, although it was pretty crap towards the end of last season as well.

For next season I’d be looking at ways to relocate the away section.

[RMutt]

Not keen on the drum idea. When I’ve heard them at away grounds I’ve always thought they were tiresome and a bit fake.
What about the megaphone users you see abroad. The ones who never watch the game because they’re facing their own supporters not the pitch. Get one of them at the front of the Cricketfield stand.

[Rileybobs]

Unfortunately none of our players who had songs last season now play for the club or those who do don’t get a game.

[Jel]

I can see the successful candidate wearing a wooden collar within around 5 minutes of his debut.

[dougcollins]

I can see the successful candidate wearing a wooden collar within around 5 minutes of his debut.

It'd take some balls to have that job.

[Vegas Claret]

It'd take some balls to have that job.

good way to identify the dickheads that was a joke before those without a sense of humour start frothing at the mouth

[Blatherwickstattoo]

Stick it in the bob lord , loads of room around the director seats . Will go down very well

[CoolClaret]

In all honesty though - give the away fans a different section, have the cricket field end be safe standing home fans only and I guarentee the atmosphere would improve

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[Acting Claret]

Drum along to Tom Hark

[ANASS]

Totally against the idea of a drum, but I can see why they’ve focused on improving the home atmosphere. It’s absolutely awful and has been for a while. Apart from the cricket field stand and some of the longside, the ground is silent. The team needs us to back them at home and currently it’s just not happening.

[Wile E Coyote]

No, all clubs that let these maniacs in with drums are idiots.
its amateurish and best left for the lower league teams.
using drums is on a par with coloured flares . copycat and childish. fans trying to emulate italian clubs that have been doing daft and noisy things for decades, when we try it it always looks terrible.

[matucana]

Should it come to pass, a samba drumming band or a line of Indian drummers as seen and heard at the cricket world cup located on the balcony of the corner stand between the Jimmy Mac and Bob Lord stands would be colourful and effective. It would not last long as the security line of vision would be impaired.
Alternatively play occasional canned cheering over the tannoy system when we move into an attacking mode although this could be construed as gamesmanship by the PL and visiting teams.
Best to remain seated and quiet so as not to offend your neighbours and be thrown out. Most other grounds have double Burnley's capacity with many deciding to stand throughout the game and make noise. You feel as one and have no seated neighbours to offend.

[TsarBomba]

A bit late to this thread, but-

Do we want a drum? Probably not.

Do we need a drum? Absolutely.

The atmosphere is ******* terrible.

I said on a CFS thread earlier in the season that I went to Shrewsbury v Burton Albion with my father in law.

Only 6k on, but the atmosphere was far better than anything we’ve produced at the Turf in a long time.

Shrewsbury had 2 drums and a singing section with flags, banners etc. What helped was that the drumming wasnt just a monotonous drone in the background but aimed to be a bit more subtle and supportive of the singing, instead of dominating it.

[Wile E Coyote]

an atmosphere at a game is an organic thing, not manufactured pap with drums or online lyrics .
clubs either have it, or they dont.

[Vegas Claret]

an atmosphere at a game is an organic thing, not manufactured pap with drums or online lyrics .
clubs either have it, or they dont.

I'd agree when it comes to a stupid drum, but there are definitely things the club can do to help. Forcing everyone to sit down in certain places hasn't helped. The sooner we get an all standing area the better

[IanMcL]

IF the Club allows a person to bang a drum, that will be enough for me to stay away from games, after being a regular supporter for 70 years and that will break my heart. But I feel so strongly against the idea, I will go ahead with my threat.

Could the drumstick be classed as an offensive weapon, in the wrong hands?.
The lack of atmosphere in this seasons games is a result of the managers tactic of playing most of our football around 1 to 30 yds from our goal line. Those tactics kill any excitement for me and I suspect a lot more people’s enjoyment. If the ball was played more frequently in the opposition half, we would have more reason to create an atmosphere and get behind the team.

Would our and the opposition supporters then be allowed to bring drums on, as the Club appear to approving the idea.
Mr Pace you and your sidekicks, forget the idea and talk your manager into playing football in the part of the pitch, where we’re likely to have a chance of scoring goals, which would create something for US to shout about, instead of a *******drum.

Whilst I am not giving up, this is accurate. Fancying about does not create atmosphere. As soon as we do something positive, the crowd react positively. As simple as that.

Nothing more boring than fancying about a hundred passes for no purpose is not British football.

Any drummer should be as welcome as the plague. It would stop me singing and chanting after all these years!

[Clive 1960]

what about a trumpeter like the barmy army do on tour with the England cricket team must be better than someone banging a bloody drum all the game, just a thought.

[Newcastleclaret93]

In all honesty though - give the away fans a different section, have the cricket field end be safe standing home fans only and I guarentee the atmosphere would improve

I do agree with that. However concede 3 a game at home and that stand will be half empty by 70 mins in

[Les Lawrence]

Playing drums in a aggressive manor while looking at away supporters could result in stadium ban and football banning order.Drum playing while players taking the knee possible prison sentence.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Laughable reading this and the examples of brilliant atmospheres elsewhere.

Arsenal's ground has been a morgue for years, the atmosphere has improved over the last 16 months just as Arsenal have improved over the same period. The singing of North London forever just before kick off probably clouds people sat at home view as well.

Newcastle against PSG being offered as another, first champions league game in a generation with a day on the drink and anyone is surprised the atmosphere was decent, probably the best atmosphere they have had since singing Ashley out.

Then again we have people who think the atmosphere is amazing at Anfield, it's turd bar the odd game each season, same as Man City.

As for the drum, it is more tin pot that goal music and that takes some doing. Why not go the full distance and have a section behind a goal were you all have to wear black, or have someone stood pitch side with a megaphone telling people what and when to sing.

[Turftalkers mentor]

If a drummer comes to fruition , i suggest he is located three rows at the back of Mr Pace and other guests of the club . It is a centre point for everyone in the ground to hear it acoustically , Don't think it would last that long though !!
And yes I do sit in the Bob Lord

[Dark Cloud]

what about a trumpeter like the barmy army do on tour with the England cricket team must be better than someone banging a bloody drum all the game, just a thought.

You volunteering to blow your own trumpet!???

[GetIntoEm]

IF the Club allows a person to bang a drum, that will be enough for me to stay away from games, after being a regular supporter for 70 years and that will break my heart. But I feel so strongly against the idea, I will go ahead with my threat.

Could the drumstick be classed as an offensive weapon, in the wrong hands?.
The lack of atmosphere in this seasons games is a result of the managers tactic of playing most of our football around 1 to 30 yds from our goal line. Those tactics kill any excitement for me and I suspect a lot more people’s enjoyment. If the ball was played more frequently in the opposition half, we would have more reason to create an atmosphere and get behind the team.

Would our and the opposition supporters then be allowed to bring drums on, as the Club appear to approving the idea.
Mr Pace you and your sidekicks, forget the idea and talk your manager into playing football in the part of the pitch, where we’re likely to have a chance of scoring goals, which would create something for US to shout about, instead of a *******drum.

christ, i suggest you start looking for a new hobby.

[ClaretinJapan]

Vincent needs to drum a few things into the players before the next game.

[The Hung Juror]

Park the drum right behind the directors box and then see how long it lasts.

[Leisure]

Just received a questionnaire from the Clarets Trust asking 1) am I in favour of using drums on the Turf and b) would I be in favour if they were situated near my seat. The 2nd question is obviously redundant if answering No to the 1st question!

[Conroy92]

A few things.

The atmosphere is poor when we perform poorly. It always has. Although when against the bigger sides, were all on board and not expecting anything, so the fans are a little more patient and act as the 12th man.
This season saw us go into the season with fans talking about mid table, top half and top ten finishes. Weirdly, it seemed to be a majority that shared this idea. The expectation for some fans has been way above where it should have been. Unfortunately, this means in the stands are large numbers of fans that are unhappy with our current position. For some of us we are where we thought we would be. Its hard to generate an atmosphere when half your support is disappointed about being in a realistic position.
VAR. No ones really mentioned this. Its not specific to us but probably every club. VAR kills atmosphere. it is a farce.
Standing. The club has been quite vocal about moving, banning supporters for persistent standing and it has targeted over a number of seasons the long side lower, an area of the ground which once had possibly the best atmosphere.

My suggestions for improving the above:-

Safe standing.
Get rid of VAR.
People realign there expectations.

[1989_claret]

Just received a questionnaire from the Clarets Trust asking 1) am I in favour of using drums on the Turf and b) would I be in favour if they were situated near my seat. The 2nd question is obviously redundant if answering No to the 1st question!

[Swizzlestick]

This season saw us go into the season with fans talking about mid table, top half and top ten finishes. Weirdly, it seemed to be a majority that shared this idea.

Was it? In my experience, other than the usual reactionaries on here who you can reel off in an instant, my experience was that most were pretty realistic about this season and just saw safety as the paramount objective. Just because some on here shout the loudest and most persistently doesn't make them the voice of the fanbase generally.

The atmosphere has been poor because we've been poor at home, it really isn't any deeper than that.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Was it? In my experience, other than the usual reactionaries on here who you can reel off in an instant, my experience was that most were pretty realistic about this season and just saw safety as the paramount objective. Just because some on here shout the loudest and most persistently doesn't make them the voice of the fanbase generally.

The atmosphere has been poor because we've been poor at home, it really isn't any deeper than that.

That certainly wasn’t the case on most social media platforms.

Top 10 was definitely a common view before the season started.

[CrosspoolClarets]

About 15%-20% of people in the UK suffer from misophonia, which is where repetitive noises can be distressing.

These people can often tolerate and enjoy football matches because the noise isn’t repetitive.

So straight away a drummer will be causing a distressing sensation in probably a few thousand of our match going punters. Obviously those punters would avoid certain away grounds.

Just because a disability isn’t visible doesn’t make it not present, and just because something may fall beneath the threshold of being a disability for a particular person doesn’t mean it is tolerable.

(please folks, just because you don’t suffer in this way please don’t dismiss it as tripe )

So, good intentions by the club but a senseless, misguided and harmful decision that will ruin the match-day experience for many.

[Conroy92]

Was it? In my experience, other than the usual reactionaries on here who you can reel off in an instant, my experience was that most were pretty realistic about this season and just saw safety as the paramount objective. Just because some on here shout the loudest and most persistently doesn't make them the voice of the fanbase generally.

The atmosphere has been poor because we've been poor at home, it really isn't any deeper than that.

It was yes. Not just on here. Everywhere people were talking about us finishing top half. To suggest it was a small vocal group on here is nonsense.

Also what do you class poor at home, loosing to contenders for the top 8?

[Swizzlestick]

That certainly wasn’t the case on most social media platforms.

Top 10 was definitely a common view before the season started.

It wasn't a 'common view' at all, that just patently isn't true. Tbh, I was implying yourself in my post, so it's good to see you are indeed the first responder. I get the impression you see what you want to see on social media platforms. Most people have a semblance of nuance when it comes to the team.

[Swizzlestick]

It was yes. Not just on here. Everywhere people were talking about us finishing top half. To suggest it was a small vocal group on here is nonsense.

Also what do you class poor at home, loosing to contenders for the top 8?

Do you believe we've been good at home so far? Do you think we've given much to get the fans going?

And where do you mean, everywhere? You're telling me if you did a straw poll of Burnley fans walking on to the Turf at the start of the season, 'pretty much all' would've said top half finish? Come on now.

[colner]

I really hope this drummer thing is from the club just putting it out there and then guaging the fans opinions from the various social media outlets. I really dont like this idea at all,its far too tin pot trying to create a contrived atmosphere in the UK. The atmosphere on the Turf has been gash and its all down to the gash we have been watching,ie pratting about at the back and inviting pressure