January transfer window rumours.

[123EasyasBFC]

Spence refused to go visit kids in hospital on a Leeds community visit. That's why they sent him back. Not someone I'd want, regardless of his talent

Where has that story come from? Poor if true

[Goliath]

Yeah a loan is pointless unless it’s an 18 month loan regardless of what league we are in which option to buy at the end

A loan would be fine. Its vital that we finish the season with a better right back or its going to be nearly impossible to stay up. Its the one position that we really are weak and its too easy to exploit us there.

[GetIntoEm]

Where has that story come from? Poor if true

A good friend is a big Leeds fan and that's the word that's going round their fanbase. Might be untrue, but no smoke without fire and he's usually reliable

[NewClaret]

Spence refused to go visit kids in hospital on a Leeds community visit. That's why they sent him back. Not someone I'd want, regardless of his talent

Cannot believe there’s any calls whatsoever for us to sign him with stories like this knocking about.

Don’t actually think he’s any good anyway, but wouldn’t want him within 25 miles of turf moor!

[123EasyasBFC]

A good friend is a big Leeds fan and that's the word that's going round their fanbase. Might be untrue, but no smoke without fire and he's usually reliable

It’s an odd thing for someone to make up to

[BurnleyFC]

It’s an odd thing for someone to make up to

Farke called him a good player and a cool guy in his departing interview, so I doubt it’s true.

Nothing like making things up from Leeds fans, though. Do they still believe they were once champions of Europe?

[Goliath]

Farke called him a good player and a cool guy in his departing interview, so I doubt it’s true.

Nothing like making things up from Leeds fans, though. Do they still believe they were once champions of Europe?

It would have been a surpising twist if he'd have called him a lazy, selfish w*nker in all fairness

[Sutton-Claret]

No chance Ings coming back until Nino’s is open again ( he was never away)

Saw him in there a couple of times with Trippier..... Wasn't aware it was closed, I was in there early December and my folks had xmas dinner there.

[BurnleyFC]

Saw him in there a couple of times with Trippier..... Wasn't aware it was closed, I was in there early December and my folks had xmas dinner there.

Nino’s in Rawtenstall is still open, but Nino’s in Cliviger has been shut since COVID, and I believe they’ve sold the building.

[NewClaret]

Nino’s in Rawtenstall is still open, but Nino’s in Cliviger has been shut since COVID, and I believe they’ve sold the building.

Any idea who bought it? I loved it there and was hoping it’d remain a bar/restaurant.

Another thing Covid ruined!

Incidentally did meet Danny in Nino’s Rawtenstall one night. And big Sam.

[timscoot]

Doesnt look like it will remain as a bar / restaurant https://www.burnleyexpress.net/lifestyl ... nt-4425980

[Newcastleclaret93]

Cannot believe there’s any calls whatsoever for us to sign him with stories like this knocking about.

Don’t actually think he’s any good anyway, but wouldn’t want him within 25 miles of turf moor!

I think file that story alongside Murics dad is part of the Kosovan Mafia

[TheFamilyCat]

A good friend is a big Leeds fan and that's the word that's going round their fanbase. Might be untrue, but no smoke without fire and he's usually reliable

Why did you state it as fact in your previous post?

[TheFamilyCat]

It’s an odd thing for someone to make up to

You must have missed some of the made up bullshit that gets posted on this board.

[Westleigh]

Any idea who bought it? I loved it there and was hoping it’d remain a bar/restaurant.

Another thing Covid ruined!

Incidentally did meet Danny in Nino’s Rawtenstall one night. And big Sam.

Final bids had to be in around a month ago ,but for what I can gather there were any bids who wanted as a bar or pub.pretty sure either housing or nursing home.

[dandeclaret]

I find the Alan Lee inclusion a little disingenuous, he had a decent career after he left us with Rotherham, Ipswich and Crystal Palace, and Peter Whittingham was very unfortunate with a bad injury just as his star was on the rise. For me both these players needed more time than we could afford to give them.

Were they good signings for Burnley?

[dandeclaret]

Lowton & Westwood being two

Promising youngsters?

[NewClaret]

Final bids had to be in around a month ago ,but for what I can gather there were any bids who wanted as a bar or pub.pretty sure either housing or nursing home.

Thanks. Real shame, but understandable given it was going for a hefty sum. Would’ve been a big risk for someone.

Used to go there a lot but particularly enjoyed bonfire nights up there, great venue for it. Shame that it’s been lost to the community in that regard.

Anyway, back to the transfer window…

[GetIntoEm]

Why did you state it as fact in your previous post?

The story stacks up, I've no reason to doubt it's not a fact. Make your own mind up

[Woodleyclaret]

Can we please stick to the point .this stupid bickering is irritating and nothing to do with signings.

[Hapag Lloyd]

Georges Mikautadze gone from Ajax back to Metz on loan for the rest of the season with a reported option to buy at €10 million. Seem to remember we were very interested in him in the summer.

[Jakubs Tash]

Maatsen to Dortmund almost done according to Fabrizio Romano...thank goodness. We need to move on now, it was probably very unlikely to happen once he'd turned us down in the summer. Hopefully the club got the message from IM loud and clear - there are plenty of other decent left backs around that would want to play for Burnley whether we're in the PL or not.

[warksclaret]

Picking this up on some forums, and probably nothing in it, but Danny Ings being mention, and stating he would be open to a move. Could we resurrect his twilight years career ??

[daveisaclaret]

I think Danny Ings makes a lot of sense.

We've already got a Norwegian, an Icelandic, a Dane and a Swede so it will complete the set if we get someone Finnish

[Jakubs Tash]

There's lots of reports Ings is West Ham's highest earner on £150,000 a week. Based on that, is it really realistic? I'm not sure West Ham would help us out that much!

[Goliath]

There's lots of reports Ings is West Ham's highest earner on £150,000 a week. Based on that, is it really realistic? I'm not sure West Ham would help us out that much!

West Ham would cover a large percentage of the wages

[randomclaret2]

I see Liverpool have recalled Fabio Carvalho from RB Leipzig to allow him to join Hull on loan

[burnley007]

I see Liverpool have recalled Fabio Carvalho from RB Leipzig to allow him to join Hull on loan

They are going for it this season, good luck to them.

[warksclaret]

There's lots of reports Ings is West Ham's highest earner on £150,000 a week. Based on that, is it really realistic? I'm not sure West Ham would help us out that much!

If WHU are paying £150k a week, they have more money than sense. He was not pulling up any trees at Villa when they signed him

[Jakubs Tash]

West Ham would cover a large percentage of the wages

They would have to for him to go anywhere I reckon! How much would you say they would have to contribute for Ings to come to Burnley - £100,000? I can’t see that happening.

I’m obviously guessing and assuming just like you, though.

[Goliath]

They would have to for him to go anywhere I reckon! How much would you say they would have to contribute for Ings to come to Burnley - £100,000? I can’t see that happening.

I’m obviously guessing and assuming just like you, though.

They must desperate to get some of his wages off the wagebill, hes one of their highest paid players somehow and contributes absolutely zilch.

Im guessing we'd offer an upfront fee plus a percentage of wages.

[jojomk1]

I see Liverpool have recalled Fabio Carvalho from RB Leipzig to allow him to join Hull on loan

And if they get Benson they will have almost as many wingers as us

[jojomk1]

There's lots of reports Ings is West Ham's highest earner on £150,000 a week. Based on that, is it really realistic? I'm not sure West Ham would help us out that much!

Hasn't he been linked with Wolves ?

[Nori1958]

They would have to for him to go anywhere I reckon! How much would you say they would have to contribute for Ings to come to Burnley - £100,000? I can’t see that happening.

I’m obviously guessing and assuming just like you, though.

I wouldn't have him even if west ham paid all of his wages....he was so poor against us

[Goliath]

I see Liverpool have recalled Fabio Carvalho from RB Leipzig to allow him to join Hull on loan

Doesnt he play in Twine's position?

[boyyanno]

Doesnt he play in Twine's position?

Plays predominantly on the wing. I haven't seen how Hull line up but I'd be surprised if he was competing with Twine for a spot.

Very good signing for them though.

[warksclaret]

I am not advocating we sign Ings, but I dont think he is written off yet. In my opinion had he had those two golden chances Amdouini had at Spurs, Ings would have put at least one in the net. Sadly with a lot of strikers that's all you are paying for- that one moment of instinctiveness or magic
A good striker can result in you picking up points even when you played badly. Since the Arsenal game when our game and performances have improved, we have more than held our own against some very good sides, but in the majority come away with NO POINTS as we struggle to find the net

[Goliath]

Plays predominantly on the wing. I haven't seen how Hull line up but I'd be surprised if he was competing with Twine for a spot.

Very good signing for them though.

Thought Twine was playing from the left for them

[Newcastleclaret93]

Plays predominantly on the wing. I haven't seen how Hull line up but I'd be surprised if he was competing with Twine for a spot.

Very good signing for them though.

He’s more of a ten IMO

Tbf not sure it really matters in regards to Twine he’s struggling to start for them on a regular basis anyway

[NewClaret]

Plays predominantly on the wing. I haven't seen how Hull line up but I'd be surprised if he was competing with Twine for a spot.

Very good signing for them though.

I actually thought he played more centrally, which would impact Twine but he could perhaps drop him to the left of their three which I think was where he started the season. If they got Zaroury too that would be an incredibly skilled front line and you’d back them to be very strong contenders for the play offs then.

[NewClaret]

He’s more of a ten IMO

Tbf not sure it really matters in regards to Twine he’s struggling to start for them on a regular basis anyway

Been in the starting 11 80% of games this season and played 80% of the minutes. Been a productive loan for him from that perspective. Not sure of Tella’s stats for us but would be surprised if his were so high.

But if he’s going to be impacted by Carvalho’s arrival then we should recall him & get him game time elsewhere.

[AfloatinClaret]

...wouldn’t want him within 25 miles of turf moor!

I'm guessing, but I reckon that as the crow flies, Elland Road might be within 25 miles of Turf Moor

[123EasyasBFC]

Been in the starting 11 80% of games this season and played 80% of the minutes. Been a productive loan for him from that perspective. Not sure of Tella’s stats for us but would be surprised if his were so high.

But if he’s going to be impacted by Carvalho’s arrival then we should recall him & get him game time elsewhere.

I would say even if his start stats and minute stats are high, the loan has been very underwhelming. We will be lucky to break even on Twine if we try and sell him now in Jan or in the summer, one of those great players in league one who is just decent for a championship team

[Westleigh]

Hull fans hoping to get a loan from Liverpool send Twine back ,& loan either Benson or Zaroury.

[NewClaret]

I would say even if his start stats and minute stats are high, the loan has been very underwhelming. We will be lucky to break even on Twine if we try and sell him now in Jan or in the summer, one of those great players in league one who is just decent for a championship team

I look at it a different way.

When he came here he’d had a decent and a good season in league one. He initially struggled to get in our team (injuries?) and then came in towards the end and looked decent, I thought. Not a world beater but like he was growing in to the league. I’d have kept him to give him a shot at the Prem, although he maybe wouldn’t have got much time in hindsight.

Then he’s gone to Hull, played about 2000 minutes I think and notched 4 goals, 3 assists. Thats in a decent but not outstanding team. And he’s had to settle in a new team, formation, etc in that time. If he plays as much in the second half of the season it wouldn’t shock me to see him step it up to maybe 20 G/A in his first full season at that level. Then it’d have been a very, very good loan.

I tend to agree with Newcastle’s assessment that he probably won’t become a prem player but he is still young and in another 2-3 years at peak, who knows?

I watched the game vs Sheff W and on the ball he looked a cut above the other players technically, seemed to have bulked out to me, was geeing the crowd up and got in a scuffle. Not to mention dispatched the pen expertly. Reminded me a bit of Ash in that game actually.

Also agree with Newcastle that he isn’t the fastest but being able to hit dead balls in the way he can is a definite advantage that gives him a chance.

If he has a good second half of the season, I can see him being a key player for us next year. Hence I’d move him in if Carvalho’s arrival is going to hinder him (but I’d like to think playing with better players would help him excel).

On your other point - I honestly don’t think we have to worry about whether we’ll make profits or break even on players at any given point in time. Nearly all our young talent will blossom at some point and increase in value (will be a few small exceptions) so it’s just a case of nurturing them
in the best way possible.

[NewClaret]

Hull fans hoping to get a loan from Liverpool send Twine back ,& loan either Benson or Zaroury.

Would be very surprised if we repay them for ‘sending Twine back’ by loaning them Benson or Zaroury. I wouldn’t let them just pick and choose our players.

[NewClaret]

I'm guessing, but I reckon that as the crow flies, Elland Road might be within 25 miles of Turf Moor

Good job it’s 26.87 miles which I obviously knew when I posted 25 miles

But feel much more comfortable him being back at Spurs

[Big Vinny K]

I look at it a different way.

When he came here he’d had a decent and a good season in league one. He initially struggled to get in our team (injuries?) and then came in towards the end and looked decent, I thought. Not a world beater but like he was growing in to the league. I’d have kept him to give him a shot at the Prem, although he maybe wouldn’t have got much time in hindsight.

Then he’s gone to Hull, played about 2000 minutes I think and notched 4 goals, 3 assists. Thats in a decent but not outstanding team. And he’s had to settle in a new team, formation, etc in that time. If he plays as much in the second half of the season it wouldn’t shock me to see him step it up to maybe 20 G/A in his first full season at that level. Then it’d have been a very, very good loan.

I tend to agree with Newcastle’s assessment that he probably won’t become a prem player but he is still young and in another 2-3 years at peak, who knows?

I watched the game vs Sheff W and on the ball he looked a cut above the other players technically, seemed to have bulked out to me, was geeing the crowd up and got in a scuffle. Not to mention dispatched the pen expertly. Reminded me a bit of Ash in that game actually.

Also agree with Newcastle that he isn’t the fastest but being able to hit dead balls in the way he can is a definite advantage that gives him a chance.

If he has a good second half of the season, I can see him being a key player for us next year. Hence I’d move him in if Carvalho’s arrival is going to hinder him (but I’d like to think playing with better players would help him excel).

On your other point - I honestly don’t think we have to worry about whether we’ll make profits or break even on players at any given point in time. Nearly all our young talent will blossom at some point and increase in value (will be a few small exceptions) so it’s just a case of nurturing them
in the best way possible.

Admire your optimism and positivity which is definitely refreshing reading some of the stuff on this board this season.
However in terms of breaking even or making profit on “nearly all our young talent” I think that given some of the fees we have paid for Ramsay, Tresor, Beyer, Trafford etc and even the likes of Twine, Al Dakhill…..there is some way to go before we are out of what looks some pretty expensive risks

[NewClaret]

Admire your optimism and positivity which is definitely refreshing reading some of the stuff on this board this season.
However in terms of breaking even or making profit on “nearly all our young talent” I think that given some of the fees we have paid for Ramsay, Tresor, Beyer, Trafford etc and even the likes of Twine, Al Dakhill…..there is some way to go before we are out of what looks some pretty expensive risks

Personally think we’ll profit hugely on all of them. They’re like very early 20’s. We need patience. Players peak mid-late 20’s and that’s the time we’ll profit most if we can hang on to them for that long.

The odd one or two might sell at break even or a loss but that will not determine whether the model is successful.

[123EasyasBFC]

I look at it a different way.

When he came here he’d had a decent and a good season in league one. He initially struggled to get in our team (injuries?) and then came in towards the end and looked decent, I thought. Not a world beater but like he was growing in to the league. I’d have kept him to give him a shot at the Prem, although he maybe wouldn’t have got much time in hindsight.

Then he’s gone to Hull, played about 2000 minutes I think and notched 4 goals, 3 assists. Thats in a decent but not outstanding team. And he’s had to settle in a new team, formation, etc in that time. If he plays as much in the second half of the season it wouldn’t shock me to see him step it up to maybe 20 G/A in his first full season at that level. Then it’d have been a very, very good loan.

I tend to agree with Newcastle’s assessment that he probably won’t become a prem player but he is still young and in another 2-3 years at peak, who knows?

I watched the game vs Sheff W and on the ball he looked a cut above the other players technically, seemed to have bulked out to me, was geeing the crowd up and got in a scuffle. Not to mention dispatched the pen expertly. Reminded me a bit of Ash in that game actually.

Also agree with Newcastle that he isn’t the fastest but being able to hit dead balls in the way he can is a definite advantage that gives him a chance.

If he has a good second half of the season, I can see him being a key player for us next year. Hence I’d move him in if Carvalho’s arrival is going to hinder him (but I’d like to think playing with better players would help him excel).

On your other point - I honestly don’t think we have to worry about whether we’ll make profits or break even on players at any given point in time. Nearly all our young talent will blossom at some point and increase in value (will be a few small exceptions) so it’s just a case of nurturing them
in the best way possible.

He’s 25 in the summer, that’s not old no but it’s not young anymore for a footballer.

I didn’t actually think he looked all that good last season when he played towards the end of the season. Something just didn’t look right. It’s not even about his size or pace because players don’t need to have lots of size to get stuck in, I just didn’t see anything in him

Not saying he doesn’t have ability but I don’t see how even in the championship next season he would ever become a key player for us and at least trying to break even on him would at least what they club will try and do