Koleosho injury

[claptrappers_union]

Burnley have been dealt a huge injury blow with the news that Luca Koleosho is likely to miss the majority of the season.

Speaking ahead of this weekend’s trip to Brighton, Kompany has confirmed Koleosho has suffered a significant knee injury that will keep him out for the foreseeable future.

“It’s bad news for us, he’s going to be out for a while apparently,” he said.

"I can’t really share the medical details but it appears in the collision he did something to his knee.

"We think he’s going to be long-term fine, but short-term we have to give him the time to recover.

"We will do everything we can to make sure he will get back healthy and ready to go again. The key concern now is to make sure he doesn’t sustain any long-term damage because he’s still young, so we’re going to do everything that is right by him.”

When asked how long Koleosho is likely to remain sidelined for, Kompany added: “I’d like to think he will still play this season, but it might be towards the end of the season.

"Past the fact it’s a blow for a young player, I still think it’s for someone else now to step up and wear the shirt in a way that Luca has done.

"Him being young, I still think in these moments, if you can keep your head calm you can really get better and get stronger from these moments, so I’ve got no doubt he will come back stronger.

"For us, short-term wise, it’s an undeniable blow.”

Elsewhere, the Clarets will be boosted by the return of Jordan Beyer, who served his one-match suspension during the midweek game at Molineux.

Josh Cullen and Jack Cork remain sidelined, while Lyle Foster continues to be unavailable to receive specialist treatment for his mental wellbeing.

Kompany has, however, revealed Foster is making good progress and is hopeful the striker won’t be out for “too long”.

The 23-year-old hasn’t played for the Clarets since the defeat to Brentford in October.

[Andreshotboots]

I'm no medical expert but I always assumed ACL injuries are around the 9 month mark.

If it's been quoted as him being out for "most of the season", seeing as we're in December already would that likely be an ACL, unless a less severe one?

[Bosscat]

Gutted for the lad ... was looking like he would be the star of the season ...

He will be missed

[ClaretTony]

As did Bashley.

I wasn't so sure on that one. It was at Villa wasn't it on the last day of the season.

[ClaretTony]

I'm no medical expert but I always assumed ACL injuries are around the 9 month mark.

If it's been quoted as him being out for "most of the season", seeing as we're in December already would that likely be an ACL, unless a less severe one?

No indication has been given as to what the injury is - just one that will keep him out for most of the season. I wouldn't be expecting him back this season though if it were an ACL.

[CoolClaret]

Praying it isn’t an ACL of any ligament damage.

Last thing a pacy winger needs is that.

Obviously it’s bad for us but I’m more concerned for Luca himself- hope he has the support needed and can come back from this and be stronger.

Hope it’s a bit of meniscus at worst or something.

Damn shame…

[Murger]

This is terrible. As someone has said above, the others need to step up now.

[Kilson810]

Oh great, more good news. I wonder what else will go wrong this season.

[Fretters]

Sam Vokes played on with his in 2014, Lukas Jutkiewicz with his in 2015 as did Dean Marney with his first one. Back in 1974, Frank Casper played in the FA Cup semi-final a week after sustaining his at Leeds.

I think that answers you 'Why was he allowed to play on' question.

It doesn't really, all it shows is that serious knee injuries can seem minor at first and that backs up my point. With 5 subs available, I don't know why we risked it after he'd been forced off the pitch with a knee problem.

[ClaretTony]

It doesn't really, all it shows is that serious knee injuries can seem minor at first and that backs up my point. With 5 subs available, I don't know why we risked it after he'd been forced off the pitch with a knee problem.

So you still don't understand? If we followed your path, we'd probably be making all our changes by half time.

[Fretters]

So you still don't understand? If we followed your path, we'd probably be making all our changes by half time.

We don't get five players forced off the pitch with knee injuries during every first half.

It's just my view, Tony. You clearly don't agree and that's fine.

[alwaysaclaret]

Assume it’s an ACL injury?

That is horrendous news. Our best two attackers out for potentially the whole season.

It could also be a medial ligament injury with some meniscus damage looking at the angle of the tackle that it's allegedly happened, was a strong challenge and a jolt kind of challenge which does cause this kind of injury, so if so wouldn't be beyond the realms if he returned towards the end of the season, but as most will know and having suffered the injury myself if it is an ACL he will most definitely be out for the season, big blow to our season whichever way but hope the lad has a good recovery.

[Westleigh]

Burnley have been dealt a huge injury blow with the news that Luca Koleosho is likely to miss the majority of the season.

Speaking ahead of this weekend’s trip to Brighton, Kompany has confirmed Koleosho has suffered a significant knee injury that will keep him out for the foreseeable future.

“It’s bad news for us, he’s going to be out for a while apparently,” he said.

"I can’t really share the medical details but it appears in the collision he did something to his knee.

"We think he’s going to be long-term fine, but short-term we have to give him the time to recover.

"We will do everything we can to make sure he will get back healthy and ready to go again. The key concern now is to make sure he doesn’t sustain any long-term damage because he’s still young, so we’re going to do everything that is right by him.”

When asked how long Koleosho is likely to remain sidelined for, Kompany added: “I’d like to think he will still play this season, but it might be towards the end of the season.

"Past the fact it’s a blow for a young player, I still think it’s for someone else now to step up and wear the shirt in a way that Luca has done.

"Him being young, I still think in these moments, if you can keep your head calm you can really get better and get stronger from these moments, so I’ve got no doubt he will come back stronger.

"For us, short-term wise, it’s an undeniable blow.”

Elsewhere, the Clarets will be boosted by the return of Jordan Beyer, who served his one-match suspension during the midweek game at Molineux.

Josh Cullen and Jack Cork remain sidelined, while Lyle Foster continues to be unavailable to receive specialist treatment for his mental wellbeing.

Kompany has, however, revealed Foster is making good progress and is hopeful the striker won’t be out for “too long”.

The 23-year-old hasn’t played for the Clarets since the defeat to Brentford in October.

Bugger,that’s our biggest threat gone ,needs Zaroury and Tresor to step up to the plate.

[Big Vinny K]

These types of injuries are extremely variable.
I’ve played for nearly 50 years and only had one knee operation - that wasn’t even in a game. It went when I was on a sportsman dinner of all places - and not even drunk !
A friend of mine has had 9 different operations on his knees as a result of playing football (he’s finally called it a day after his 9th one which was actually 10 years after his 8th so he did get an extra decade of playing !)

The pain in your knee can be immediate in some cases but very often there is a delay and it could even be the following days after playing you realise something is seriously wrong.

Can be very difficult indeed for a player or physio to detect and as said if we took off players for precautionary reasons every time they felt pain we’d have half a team left.

Look at Alexis MacCallister last night for Liverpool. He screamed in agony and the players around him, commentators and pretty much everyone thought it was a very serious injury. 3 minutes later he’s up and back on the pitch running around like normal and he was not play acting in any way.

[ClaretTony]

We don't get five players forced off the pitch with knee injuries during every first half.

It's just my view, Tony. You clearly don't agree and that's fine.

No, but we'll get that many players feeling something during the first half but staying on. Game after game, you see players at all clubs playing on before being forced off. Ben Mee was just the same two seasons ago with what proved to be a break.

[claretonthecoast1882]

These types of injuries are extremely variable.
I’ve played for nearly 50 years and only had one knee operation - that wasn’t even in a game. It went when I was on a sportsman dinner of all places - and not even drunk !
A friend of mine has had 9 different operations on his knees as a result of playing football (he’s finally called it a day after his 9th one which was actually 10 years after his 8th so he did get an extra decade of playing !)

The pain in your knee can be immediate in some cases but very often there is a delay and it could even be the following days after playing you realise something is seriously wrong.

Can be very difficult indeed for a player or physio to detect and as said if we took off players for precautionary reasons every time they felt pain we’d have half a team left.

Look at Alexis MacCallister last night for Liverpool. He screamed in agony and the players around him, commentators and pretty much everyone thought it was a very serious injury. 3 minutes later he’s up and back on the pitch running around like normal and he was not play acting in any way.

Was it Lacazette for Arsenal who let out an almighty scream leaving people fearing for his career only for him to recover and be able to play on within a couple of minutes

[ArmchairDetective]

Burnley have been dealt a huge injury blow with the news that Luca Koleosho is likely to miss the majority of the season.

Speaking ahead of this weekend’s trip to Brighton, Kompany has confirmed Koleosho has suffered a significant knee injury that will keep him out for the foreseeable future.

“It’s bad news for us, he’s going to be out for a while apparently,” he said.

"I can’t really share the medical details but it appears in the collision he did something to his knee.

"We think he’s going to be long-term fine, but short-term we have to give him the time to recover.

"We will do everything we can to make sure he will get back healthy and ready to go again. The key concern now is to make sure he doesn’t sustain any long-term damage because he’s still young, so we’re going to do everything that is right by him.”

When asked how long Koleosho is likely to remain sidelined for, Kompany added: “I’d like to think he will still play this season, but it might be towards the end of the season.

"Past the fact it’s a blow for a young player, I still think it’s for someone else now to step up and wear the shirt in a way that Luca has done.

"Him being young, I still think in these moments, if you can keep your head calm you can really get better and get stronger from these moments, so I’ve got no doubt he will come back stronger.

"For us, short-term wise, it’s an undeniable blow.”

Elsewhere, the Clarets will be boosted by the return of Jordan Beyer, who served his one-match suspension during the midweek game at Molineux.

Josh Cullen and Jack Cork remain sidelined, while Lyle Foster continues to be unavailable to receive specialist treatment for his mental wellbeing.

Kompany has, however, revealed Foster is making good progress and is hopeful the striker won’t be out for “too long”.

The 23-year-old hasn’t played for the Clarets since the defeat to Brentford in October.

Real shame about Koleosho. Feel for him. But everything you want to hear from the manager. Respectful and motivating. VK seems like the right man in charge to help young players in their recovery.

[Fretters]

No, but we'll get that many players feeling something during the first half but staying on. Game after game, you see players at all clubs playing on before being forced off. Ben Mee was just the same two seasons ago with what proved to be a break.

Fair point. I'm really just referring to those who the medical team get chance to assess off the pitch, as they did with Koleosho. Again, I'm no expert, but I'd think knee pain - following an innocuous incident - would be an instant red flag.

[Big Vinny K]

Was it Lacazette for Arsenal who let out an almighty scream leaving people fearing for his career only for him to recover and be able to play on within a couple of minutes

He did - I can still hear it ringing in my ears !
He was definitely cheating though - it was part of the DNA of that Arsenal side he played in. Sanchez, Aubemayang etc…team was full of soft southern shites !

[Fretters]

Was it Lacazette for Arsenal who let out an almighty scream leaving people fearing for his career only for him to recover and be able to play on within a couple of minutes

If I were him I'd have still come off and hid away for 9 months

[alwaysaclaret]

We don't get five players forced off the pitch with knee injuries during every first half.

It's just my view, Tony. You clearly don't agree and that's fine.

In terms of playing on with an ACL it can also depend on whether it's a partial tear or a complete rupture, but by playing on with a tear you are obviously risking a rupture further down the road, whatever the situation a bad injury, and if there's any doubt with initial pitch test by the physio the player should be subbed imo.

[NewClaret]

Oh my word.

And if I couldn’t be depressed enough at the moment… ffs…

(Wishing Luca a speedy recovery)

[BurnleyFC]

FFS. This is dreadful news.

Wishing you a speedy recovery, Luca.

[Bowclaret]

I’m in hospital for a knee operation next week - ACL

I’ve been told 9 to 10 months for a full recovery which seems about right.

I did it playing football on a hockey pitch in Garstang. It did not seem that bad at first but later in the night the pain was horrendous.

If the gaffer thinks he will be back this season, I very much doubt it will be an ACL which will be good news.

Like all of us, I’m gutted for the lad. He will be a superstar and will come back stronger from this. NOW, time for others, and there are a lot, to step up.

Good Luck Luca

[CrosspoolClarets]

Gutted for the kid, I was only thinking before Wolves that I hoped he would stay fit. Now we have lost both forwards who have been terrifying most defences. Good luck to his recovery…..

…but….

As one door closes another has to open and the challenge now is to use it to improve us. We don’t have time to dwell on this. We have after all not beaten anyone yet who was in the PL last season, with Koleosho. Maybe we will without him.

VK will have to choose between very young potential (Odobert), experience (Redmond), new to PL (Brun Larsen, Zaroury) or a very high ceiling but hasn’t yet adapted (Tresor).

Personally I’d go Tresor or Redmond. If we can turn Tresor from someone with all the tricks into someone who can play with the intensity this league demands, he could become a star for us. It may be time to gamble and hope this late investment in extra wingers turns out to be genius.

[Burnley1989]

I had to go in the net when i did my knee, couldn't even stand straight and knew straight away it was bad, was winning 1v0 at the time and lost 10v1 once I went in goal.
Funnily enough Ive never been asked to keep goal since.

I think I stopped playing for 5 months and shouldn't have come back when I did as its still not right 2 years on.

[Westleigh]

If we were struggling for cash at the end of the season I would have thought Koleosho would have gone for big bucks .

[summitclaret]

Benny is the man we need back ASAP.

[BobSykes]

Gutted for him, gutted for us.

But bejaysus this season keeps on kicking us in the balls doesn't it, after the riches we all got used to just a few months ago!

[Dark Cloud]

From what I've seen, when other players have done this ubiquitous ACL injury they crumple up immediately and are in utter agony and basically can't stand up and are stretchered off. I'm thinking of Sam Vokes and Ashley Barnes as just two examples. Koleosho was clearly hurt, but actually tried to carry on and "run it off". Whilst that probably wasn't the best thing to do in hindsight, surely it points to his injury not being what you normally expect with ACLs. Maybe.

[ClaretTony]

From what I've seen, when other players have done this ubiquitous ACL injury they crumple up immediately and are in utter agony and basically can't stand up and are stretchered off. I'm thinking of Sam Vokes and Ashley Barnes as just two examples. Koleosho was clearly hurt, but actually tried to carry on and "run it off". Whilst that probably wasn't the best thing to do in hindsight, surely it points to his injury not being what you normally expect with ACLs. Maybe.

AS posted above, both Sam Vokes and Ashley Barnes actually carried on, as did Dean Marney and Lukas Jutkiewicz. Also, as I posted, Frank Casper played again a week later. The one consoiation is it can't cause any more damage if it is indeed an ACL. But also shows not everyone is the same, for example when Marney did it for a second time, he was down immediately and stretchered off.

[Dark Cloud]

AS posted above, both Sam Vokes and Ashley Barnes actually carried on, as did Dean Marney and Lukas Jutkiewicz. Also, as I posted, Frank Casper played again a week later. The one consoiation is it can't cause any more damage if it is indeed an ACL. But also shows not everyone is the same, for example when Marney did it for a second time, he was down immediately and stretchered off.

Maybe memory isn't what it was, but I believed I saw Vokes go down in a heap on the touchline, writhing in agony and simply not get up. Similarly I was at Villa when Ashley went down and I thought it was very much the same scenario, but obviously as a man of a certain age the memory can become somewhat unreliable!!

[Claretforever]

Pretty sure Branch did his knee at Ewood in that 5-0 game and carried on, but said latterly that all he could do was run in straight lines?

[FeedTheArf]

Absolutely gutted he's out for the foreseeable. A real bright spark in an otherwise pretty miserable season.

Still, hopefully it'll mean we can keep hold of him and get him fit for our 24/25 Championship assault!

[AfloatinClaret]

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[AGENT_CLARET]

Relegate us now

[Pearcey]

A big blow for him and us. Thankfully we’re well stacked in that area and it gives someone else a chance to impress.

[Boss Hogg]

A massive blow. Our two best performers so far are now missing.We saw how much threat we had once he went off against Wolves.

[Elbarad]

That's pretty harsh news to be sure. He is sure fun to watch.

[shulgin]

Huge loss this. His pressing game has come on immensely the last few games. Determined to track back if he loses the ball and break up any attack.

[Jakubs Tash]

Assume it’s an ACL injury?

An ACL where the player is back playing in 4-5 months (VK said he could be back fro the end of the season)?

[CharlieinNewMexico]

It could also be a medial ligament injury with some meniscus damage looking at the angle of the tackle that it's allegedly happened, was a strong challenge and a jolt kind of challenge which does cause this kind of injury, so if so wouldn't be beyond the realms if he returned towards the end of the season, but as most will know and having suffered the injury myself if it is an ACL he will most definitely be out for the season, big blow to our season whichever way but hope the lad has a good recovery.

Thought this at the time. I’ve done my MCL and it was very frustrating trying to straighten my knee and couldn’t because of bits of cartilage in there. And this was exactly what he seemed to be doing. Shaking it and rotating it but couldn’t extend it.

[dougcollins]

It's getting like this season was never meant to happen.

[ecc]

There are ACLs and ACLs but nine months often seems to be the benchmark. But then some players get back to full fitness quicker than others.

Whatever. It's crap for him and for us.

TBH with the other teams winning (Bournemouth last night) the wall is gradually being covered in writing.

[summitclaret]

There are ACLs and ACLs but nine months often seems to be the benchmark. But then some players get back to full fitness quicker than others.

Whatever. It's crap for him and for us.

TBH with the other teams winning (Bournemouth last night) the wall is gradually being covered in writing.

I think we can catch Forest. Hope those points robbed from us there don't put us down.

[basil6345789]

Enter Zaz

[boatshed bill]

There are ACLs and ACLs but nine months often seems to be the benchmark. But then some players get back to full fitness quicker than others.

Whatever. It's crap for him and for us.

TBH with the other teams winning (Bournemouth last night) the wall is gradually being covered in writing.

Looking at the table with a degree of optimism, we only need to better a few clubs by about 10 points over the rest of the season to be well safe.
It can be done.

[basil6345789]

I'm no medical expert but I always assumed ACL injuries are around the 9 month mark.

If it's been quoted as him being out for "most of the season", seeing as we're in December already would that likely be an ACL, unless a less severe one?

Zlatan Thingy was back in a month!

[dougcollins]

Zlatan Thingy was back in a month!

He only needed one leg.

[Anthonini]

I feel terrible for the boy. He's been absolutely outstanding and an example of committment for the rest of the team. My respect for his crazy work rate, for what he's shown so far without anyone really expecting anything from him.

He was making great progress as well. Hopefully he can keep doing so and we have him back soon.

For the team it's a blow as well but it doesn't have to be. Up to our other wingers now to show what they can do. Plenty of talent in the squad to catch up his injury. If it would happen to Berge or Taylor we'd have bigger problems.