Everton fans in home end

[Jel]

Don't blame the scousers. Definitely not their fault, and I didn't see it. That's hate discrimination

You're deluded!

[Roberts' Tash]

So what if there's 20 Evertonians in the long side celebrating, why is it that it must be met with violence?

To be fair people were begging the stewards to get them out rather than launching violent attacks on them. When the stewards weren't acting with any urgency, people were warning the stewards that if they don't remove the Everton fans soon, they will. It was made difficult by the number of them. It wasn't a case of beating them up, it was a case of getting them out. That's all people wanted.

[Garnerssoap]

Logic suggests if you put an entire seasons spare home tickets on sale in July the only people with the organisational skills and money reserves to buy them will be a tout and not a burnley fan . I suppose to a yank it made sense at the time.
Daughter likes to come on when back from uni but guess who’s in the doghouse for not coming up trumps for the chrimbo games.
Never had a problem with away fans in the home stands (most of us have done it let’s face it)but to actively (even if accidentally) facilitate it is a bit daft.

[CoolClaret]

Logic suggests if you put an entire seasons spare home tickets on sale in July the only people with the organisational skills and money reserves to buy them will be a tout and not a burnley fan . I suppose to a yank it made sense at the time.
Daughter likes to come on when back from uni but guess who’s in the doghouse for not coming up trumps for the chrimbo games.
Never had a problem with away fans in the home stands (most of us have done it let’s face it)but to actively (even if accidentally) facilitate it is a bit daft.

Exactly - it really is that simple.

Who's spending decent money to one off games not knowing if they could even go it or not?

[HuncoatClaret]

I'm dreading boxing day because of the amount of Liverpool fans that will be around the ground.
I emailed the club after the last time we played them to complain about the amount of opposition fans, and their aggressive behaviour in the Bob Lord. During the game I asked the stewards to do something , they surrounded me, told me to shut up and said that I would be thrown out of the ground if I carried on.
Women couldn't even use the toilets at Halftime because they were full of young Scouse lads who went back to their seats sniffing a lot.

[taio]

Exactly - it really is that simple.

Who's spending decent money to one off games not knowing if they could even go it or not?

I know some Burnley supporters who couldn't commit to a season ticket but bought tickets for single games before the season started.

[CoolClaret]

I know some Burnley supporters who couldn't commit to a season ticket but bought tickets for single games before the season started.

Of course, but they're probably not shelling out for 5 different odd games at once?

[taio]

Of course, but they're probably not shelling out for 5 different odd games at once?

My next door neighbour bought tickets for five or six games in the summer. I know of others who bought three of four too. Such was the excitement after last season. Good decision by the Board.

[CoolClaret]

My next door neighbour bought tickets for five or six games in the summer. I know of others who bought three of four too. Such was the excitement after last season. Good decision by the Board.

If it's such a great decision why are we seeing a ton of opposition fans in the home end?

[taio]

If it's such a great decision why are we seeing a ton of opposition fans in the home end?

Which stand do you sit in?

[Garnerssoap]

I envy your next door neighbours life and budgetary skills. I will strive to do better

[taio]

I envy your next door neighbours life and budgetary skills. I will strive to do better

He's a big Burnley supporter but can't commit to a season ticket due to work commitments and spending chunks of his time out of the country on business.

[jrgbfc]

He's a big Burnley supporter but can't commit to a season ticket due to work commitments and spending chunks of his time out of the country on business.

If he's that busy then surely the point is it's not really ideal to be having to buy tickets months ahead? Particularly when so many then get moved for TV etc. We've alienated a lot of supporters who we might actually need next season when all the part timers and "football tourists" have disappeared .

[taio]

If he's that busy then surely the point is it's not really ideal to be having to buy tickets months ahead? Particularly when so many then get moved for TV etc. We've alienated a lot of supporters who we might actually need next season when all the part timers and "football tourists" have disappeared .

It obviously worked for him.

[Garnerssoap]

Yes he’s obviously a very impressive individual. I understand . I have now booked a week off for July to queue up on brunshaw road overnight in my Daniel O’Donnell tent.

[taio]

Yes he’s obviously a very impressive individual. I understand . I have now booked a week off for July to queue up on brunshaw road overnight in my Daniel O’Donnell tent.

You can buy tickets online.

[Garnerssoap]

You can buy tickets online.

But that would ruin the joke

[MACCA]

Yes indeed I’m one of those Sean Dyche fans.
Really enjoyed seeing my team get beat today. (What a daft comment by the way…)

Not that daft as I ( and no doubt others) will know people who's day was about Sean Dyche, how good he us, how they wish we had him back etc.
And won't have talked about much other than him.

They constantly comment on Everton results, goals and how good he's doing.

Obviously that's to my teams detriment, I wish he'd lost all 38 games this season as that is beneficial to my team.
Others don't, that's a fact.

[Notsosuperstevedavis]

The club (an employee of the club) knew of Everton fans having tickets 30 mins before KO.
I was in the ticket office when a punter admitted it to a lass behind the counter. Her response was along the lines of ‘we’ll have to get them removed then’

[groove]

I was in JHU but at the cricket field end. I wasn't aware of this. I've no problem with away/neutrals in the home end if they don't take the ****. If I'd seen this I'd have weighed in and give them a crack.

[Nori1958]

As a fan base base who put themselves at the forefront of crowd safety issues I find it amazing that 100s of Liverpool fans will willing put themselves in a position on boxing day that they know will no doubt lead to crowd problems, and people including women and children at risk of injury.

They wouldn't do this, would they?

[Cardclaret]

If we sold out all home games by the start of the season, then happy days, leave things there. If we can't control resales then don't do them. I realise this will penalise some fans but safety comes first and if we can't set up a fool proof system then so be it don't sell them.

[MrTopTier]

As a fan base base who put themselves at the forefront of crowd safety issues I find it amazing that 100s of Liverpool fans will willing put themselves in a position on boxing day that they know will no doubt lead to crowd problems, and people including women and children at risk of injury.

They wouldn't do this, would they?

100’s. You know this how?

[Nori1958]

100’s. You know this how?

Just reading this thread

[MrTopTier]

Just reading this thread

That’s ok, it must be right then

[AlargeClaret]

The sheer child like naivety of the “ it’s ok for away fans in the home end “ brigade is quite staggering . Imagine 20+ BFC fans in the home end at Everton /Liverpool , they’d be ejected amongst ( understandable) uproar from fans around them and no doubt punches thrown .The very same apologists would be outraged on here calling for life bans of the “ coke fuelled thugs”

Groups of away fans in home ends is a huge provocation for potential violence, and clearly unsettling for the home fans around them . I’m not talking about 1 or 2 keeping their heads down either, or neutrals .

The stewards were VERY slow in acting as well yesterday, perhaps if a fan had texted he’d been misgendered or heard a naughty word ,a more robust response may have been forthcoming?

[burnleymik]

To be fair he is probably right, but most just kept their heads down and are spread out around the ground. That group at the top were all together, hence why they felt it easier to behave like they did.

[SalisburyClaret]

I’m sure if I took an unauthorised flag in the ground, I’d soon find plenty of stewards around me.

To be serious, I know of 3 families who won’t be going again. There will be plenty more.

[It Is What It Is]

Scousers eh....no respect,...no morals....wherever there is crowd trouble...scousers will be there.
Hillsborough, Haysel, Stade de France.
It's in the Scouse DNA unfortunately.

[sjb]

As a fan base base who put themselves at the forefront of crowd safety issues I find it amazing that 100s of Liverpool fans will willing put themselves in a position on boxing day that they know will no doubt lead to crowd problems, and people including women and children at risk of injury.

They wouldn't do this, would they?

Well if they do it won't be their fault...

[Ilkley claret]

So what if there's 20 Evertonians in the long side celebrating, why is it that it must be met with violence?

From what I witnessed they were intent on having a scrap and goading Burnley fans to have a go. They knew what they were doing when they bought the tickets and will now be sharing their achievement on social media no doubt. Very poor from stewarding and the club who were warned beforehand

[Quickenthetempo]

Scousers eh....no respect,...no morals....wherever there is crowd trouble...scousers will be there.
Hillsborough, Haysel, Stade de France.
It's in the Scouse DNA unfortunately.

The Liverpool fans behaviour at Stade de France was impeccable.

Luckily plenty of cameras about these days to capture the truth.

[Quickenthetempo]

From what I witnessed they were intent on having a scrap and goading Burnley fans to have a go. They knew what they were doing when they bought the tickets and will now be sharing their achievement on social media no doubt. Very poor from stewarding and the club who were warned beforehand

Burnley football club put them there from corporate.

It's due to lack of seats, but someone from the club knew they were Everton fans and still sent them up there.

[Rileybobs]

I presume it’s not against any rules for people who support the visiting club to sit with the home fans?

[taio]

I presume it’s not against any rules for people who support the visiting club to sit with the home fans?

It's part of the club's terms and conditions.

[fidelcastro]

Scousers eh....no respect,...no morals....wherever there is crowd trouble...scousers will be there.
Hillsborough, Haysel, Stade de France.
It's in the Scouse DNA unfortunately.

What a crass comment.

[Stacky_claret]

From what I witnessed they were intent on having a scrap and goading Burnley fans to have a go. They knew what they were doing when they bought the tickets and will now be sharing their achievement on social media no doubt. Very poor from stewarding and the club who were warned beforehand

As said they had tickets for hospitality but they weren’t what I would say normal hospitality fans if there is such a thing
They were well up for it and got what they wanted there will also be an email going to the club to make sure that the stewards have handed over the things that were disposed of as they were being thrown out by the stewards
The club need to be very aware of just what could have happened

[Rileybobs]

It's part of the club's terms and conditions.

Ah really. Seems like a difficult one to police as it’s hard to prove or disprove which club you support when buying a ticket. I’m sure we’ve all been to watch Burnley and sat with the opposing fans and in theory this shouldn’t be a problem. That said, there obviously shouldn’t be a situation where batches of tickets are being bought by opposing supporters.

[taio]

Ah really. Seems like a difficult one to police as it’s hard to prove or disprove which club you support when buying a ticket. I’m sure we’ve all been to watch Burnley and sat with the opposing fans and in theory this shouldn’t be a problem. That said, there obviously shouldn’t be a situation where batches of tickets are being bought by opposing supporters.

Difficult beforehand, but with it being part of the terms and conditions, the club can at least more easily enforce the removal of visiting supporters from the ground.

[alboclaret]

As said they had tickets for hospitality but they weren’t what I would say normal hospitality fans if there is such a thing
They were well up for it and got what they wanted there will also be an email going to the club to make sure that the stewards have handed over the things that were disposed of as they were being thrown out by the stewards
The club need to be very aware of just what could have happened

If this is true then its even more disappointing of the club.
Maybe that's why we had club official come up. Ffs

[Spike]

My son was sat in the Longside Lower and said the guy sat in front was "acting rather weird" throughout the first half! (Whatever that means!) At half time he turned round and started chatting, admitted to being a Scouser and Everton fan and asked my son not to say anything. My son told him if he kept quiet he'd be fine, but that his accent was a dead giveaway and plenty of people wouldn't like like him sitting there if they knew.

Not everyone is a tolerant as your family

[Billy Balfour]

Funny thing is that if we can’t sort 20 Everton fans out in the old longside we are more or less finished.Imagine that happening in the 80’s/90’s.No chance.Weve got a soft underbelly now and it gets taken advantage of every week.

Robbie, you're a middle-aged bloke, and you are coming out with this? How utterly embarrassing.

[Rileybobs]

Difficult beforehand, but with it being part of the terms and conditions, the club can at least more easily enforce the removal of visiting supporters from the ground.

Yes absolutely. The very fact that they were provoking trouble (I’m presuming the claims are correct as I didn’t see any) is reason enough for them to be ejected, regardless of which team they support.

I’m a bit surprised that someone could be ejected just for supporting another team though.

[taio]

Yes absolutely. The very fact that they were provoking trouble (I’m presuming the claims are correct as I didn’t see any) is reason enough for them to be ejected, regardless of which team they support.

I’m a bit surprised that someone could be ejected just for supporting another team though.

I suppose it's in the club's terms and conditions for good reason.

[Spike]

The club has been selling tickets in the “home end”to away fans for a number of years .
They simply refuse to solve this problem
There simply aren’t enough stewards, police or communication systems to ensure that this current system of sales is managed after kick off in a way that everyone is safe.
As a result of this the club will be using its CCTV to ban any Claret involved.

[Swizzlestick]

Scousers eh....no respect,...no morals....wherever there is crowd trouble...scousers will be there.
Hillsborough, Haysel, Stade de France.
It's in the Scouse DNA unfortunately.

Hillsborough, are you for real? Get a grip.

[RVclaret]

Video of them all has surfaced including clearly bouncing around celebrating a goal

https://x.com/turfcastpodcast/status/17 ... 02721?s=46

[Nori1958]

I suppose it's in the club's terms and conditions for good reason.

So is the regulation that you cannot enter the ground with any device capable of recording any part of the match.....I don't think they enforce that either

[Billy Balfour]

To me, it looks like they are throwing the safety of our fans under a bus, and all in pursuit for a bit of extra cash. Well, they can have it that way if they want, but the thing is, they'll lose way, way more when people decide their safety is worth more to them than a season ticket, especially families with youngsters and anyone else who doesn't want to place themselves in what can turn into an unsafe environment.

[Spijed]

Don't clubs have the legal right to eject fans if they are in the wrong part of the ground without having to give any reason?