AV we got a thread v Burnley or is this it?

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:05 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:04 pm
How can anyone be happy with this?

Even if I was a Villa fan I wouldn't be happy with that. It's just b0llocks and a huge indictment on the state of these weasels that ruin football matches every week.

Tbf CC them type of pens have been given for years in the prem.

They are absolute crap but unfortunately it’s almost like an unwritten rule any contact in the box is a pen

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:05 pm

Gutted

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:05 pm

BurnleyFC wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:58 pm

I don’t know about Connor Roberts having it out with Jacob Ramsey, he should bollocked his younger brother instead.

I love Connor Roberts' passion.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm

SussexDon1inIreland wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:05 pm
We lost to 12 vs 10

13 10 varman

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm

scouseclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 4:59 pm
Soft decision but that’s at least the third time Ramsey has given a goal away due to a horrible first touch, and he’s hardly played.

Someone keeps subbing him on and every time he makes a mistake to give away a goal. Someone is not learning.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm

Played well. Unlucky. Hard when you’re up against more players and a referee who was not letting us escape with a point.

We will nuke Luton.

burnley007 · Post by **burnley007** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm

Villa should be ashamed

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm

Foster didn't deserve to be on the losing side today's

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm

I hope Vinny picks Ramsey up and batters Atwell to death with him.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm

I know this has been cruel, and to nearly get a point with 10 men against a team that had 15 consecutive home wins is a great achievement. However its defeats against Palace, WHU, Bournemouth and a few more that decide our future-all there to be won

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm

Robbery

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm

Foster didn't deserve to be on the losing side today's

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:07 pm

Hard to take today ruined by poor officials

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:07 pm

CoolClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:04 pm
How can anyone be happy with this?

Even if I was a Villa fan I wouldn't be happy with that. It's just b0llocks and a huge indictment on the state of these weasels that ruin football matches every week.

They could stamp it out. A number of players diving and feigning injury. It's simple, issue bans (not fines) for players found guilty. It will soon stop just like demanding players are booked soon stopped.

I can't understand why the PFA aren't interested in it. It's professional players on professional players. My professional representative body acts to prevent me from certain actions detrimental to my fellow professionals.

Robbie_painter · Post by **Robbie_painter** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:07 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm
Someone keeps subbing him on and every time he makes a mistake to give away a goal. Someone is not learning.

All good in hindsight ain’t it.Proud of the lads today.UTC.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:07 pm

Foster was brilliant.

Lots of effort from the lads, once again robbed big time

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:07 pm

Trafford and Foster were superb.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:08 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:05 pm
Tbf CC them type of pens have been given for years in the prem.

They are absolute crap but unfortunately it’s almost like an unwritten rule any contact in the box is a pen

Nonsense! Koleosho had a clear tackle on him vs West Ham, clear contact and it wasn’t given!

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:08 pm

My head is held high that is a wonderful battling performance that didn’t deserve to be on the losing side.

Would stop bringing Ramsey on in close games though - he’s not up to it mentally yet. Far too casual

Kilson810 · Post by **Kilson810** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:08 pm

Foster will be playing in the Prem next season, shame we won't be. Hopefully the misery that is this season ends quickly.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:08 pm

Belgianclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:03 pm
Crap team Villa

Yep, joint top, aren't they?

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:08 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:04 pm
We’re basically written a season off in order to give these young players we’ve bought the time and space to potentially develop into better players.

Some of them are now improving but it’s too late and we’ve sacrificed too many points already.

With Foster and Trafford both attracting praise from many quarters for their performances I find it difficult to imagine both players plying their trade in the Championship.
Having developed young players we take the money and start all over again.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:09 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:08 pm
Nonsense! Koleosho had a clear tackle on him vs West Ham, clear contact and it wasn’t given!

Doesn’t mean they don’t miss them. But penalties like that have been given for years I can think of loads just this season that have been given.

It’s crap don’t get me wrong, but they are common place nowadays

JimmyRobbo · Post by **JimmyRobbo** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:09 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm
I know this has been cruel, and to nearly get a point with 10 men against a team that had 15 consecutive home wins is a great achievement. However its defeats against Palace, WHU, Bournemouth and a few more that decide our future-all there to be won

Absolutely. One of the key areas SD had sorted was not losing to those around you. Those make the big differences and determine your fate.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:09 pm

kentonclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:08 pm
With Foster and Trafford both attracting praise from many quarters for their performances I find it difficult to imagine both players plying their trade in the Championship.

Don't worry, because we will get the points to stay up.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:09 pm

I know we've been poor a lot, but I still think we've been unlucky to get this many points. Forest away, west ham at home, palace at home, this game. Probably others where 9 times out of 10 we take all 3 points or at least a draw

sjb · Post by **sjb** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:09 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:05 pm
Tbf CC them type of pens have been given for years in the prem.

They are absolute crap but unfortunately it’s almost like an unwritten rule any contact in the box is a pen

How come you never pop up on here when we have a positive result? You don't even try to hide your delight at every defeat.

RicardoMontalban · Post by **RicardoMontalban** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:09 pm

Played well, and for all the attempts Villa had, but for a soft pen and a shameful decision on the handball we could easily have had that.

Come on clarets. Let’s batter Luton.

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:10 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:08 pm
Yep, joint top, aren't they?

Doesn’t mean anything on today’s showing.

sjb · Post by **sjb** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:10 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:06 pm
Someone keeps subbing him on and every time he makes a mistake to give away a goal. Someone is not learning.

Give it a rest eh you idiot.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:11 pm

Battled hard and showed a lot of fight and you can see the team slowly grow and get more competitive just a shame its unlikely to be enough to keep us up.

Anyone moaning about VAR or the ref about the key decision is just very biased towards the team they support as Fosters goal was clearly offside, Villa's second was clearly onside and it was a stonewall penalty with Ramsey taking a heavy touch and kicking the Villa players boot instead of the ball

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:11 pm

sjb wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:09 pm
How come you never pop up on here when we have a positive result? You don't even try to hide your delight at every defeat.

I have literally not been on this board for a week whilst it’s been Christmas.

I’ve not missed a single game, it’s not my fault most weeks are crap

Belgianclaret · Post by **Belgianclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:11 pm

willsclarets wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:09 pm
I know we've been poor a lot, but I still think we've been unlucky to get this many points. Forest away, west ham at home, palace at home, this game. Probably others where 9 times out of 10 we take all 3 points or at least a draw

Agree, but once you’re down there it all goes against you

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:11 pm

Sadly we have to face up to the fact that there is a PL directive that we have to be relegated. There were so many wrong decisions today that it could only be corruption. Simple as that

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:12 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:11 pm
Sadly we have to face up to the fact that there is a PL directive that we have to be relegated. There were so many wrong decisions today that it could only be corruption. Simple as that

Give over

Westleigh · Post by **Westleigh** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:12 pm

Jimmymaccer wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:02 pm
If there’s a touch it’s the slightest………he then dives………..theatrically……….Villa pen………no 5 minutes from every angle…….no VAR checking every touch/wink in the build up…….. just “yep, complete ………..send them sh#tty upstarts back up north”

You listen to pundits when the ref doesn’t give a pen and they say there wasn’t enough contact,if the ref gives it they say the forward felt a touch so it’s ok to go down,just paying lip service to the narrative.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:13 pm

Gutted, thought we were brilliant today, play like that every game away from home and we will survive. The players deserved far more for that performance. A positive sign, quite clear we’ve turned a corner from the early season horror show, hard to take that result.

Jimmymaccer · Post by **Jimmymaccer** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:13 pm

boatshed bill wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:09 pm
Don't worry, because we will get the points to stay up.

If we play like that………not often we’ve seen that battling on the pitch, but if they have that going forward we have a chance…….UTC!

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:14 pm

A couple of quality experienced signings next week would make a world of difference and who knows, we aren't far off

hoskinsgoalatswansea · Post by **hoskinsgoalatswansea** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:14 pm

Poor refereeing, and Ramsey’s best performance for Villa, has done us.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:14 pm

FCBurnley wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:11 pm
Sadly we have to face up to the fact that there is a PL directive that we have to be relegated. There were so many wrong decisions today that it could only be corruption. Simple as that

There was no corruption in Kompany’s decision to bring Ramsey on

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:14 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:11 pm
Battled hard and showed a lot of fight and you can see the team slowly grow and get more competitive just a shame its unlikely to be enough to keep us up.

Anyone moaning about VAR or the ref about the key decision is just very biased towards the team they support as Fosters goal was clearly offside, Villa's second was clearly onside and it was a stonewall penalty with Ramsey taking a heavy touch and kicking the Villa players boot instead of the ball

Dean Smith who is Villa through and through said there’s no way it’s a penalty.

Acting Claret · Post by **Acting Claret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:14 pm

Villa absolutely battered us at the Turf, fully deserved the points. Today, they had to cheat to get the points.

Claretforever · Post by **Claretforever** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:15 pm

We played very well there today. Deserved a point at least. Foster was immense, Trafford was great.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:15 pm

I’d be sending Ramsey on loan again.

He’s nowhere near ready for PL football - doesn’t have to r mentality for it right now.

It’s tough but if that was Cullen on there instead we come away with a point today

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:16 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:11 pm
Battled hard and showed a lot of fight and you can see the team slowly grow and get more competitive just a shame its unlikely to be enough to keep us up.

Anyone moaning about VAR or the ref about the key decision is just very biased towards the team they support as Fosters goal was clearly offside, Villa's second was clearly onside and it was a stonewall penalty with Ramsey taking a heavy touch and kicking the Villa players boot instead of the ball

What about the blatant handball from their defender that prevented a goal scoring chance?

The Berge second yellow is harsh IMO, normally referees will give a little leeway.

The penalty, does he even touch him?

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:16 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:11 pm
Battled hard and showed a lot of fight and you can see the team slowly grow and get more competitive just a shame its unlikely to be enough to keep us up.

Anyone moaning about VAR or the ref about the key decision is just very biased towards the team they support as Fosters goal was clearly offside, Villa's second was clearly onside and it was a stonewall penalty with Ramsey taking a heavy touch and kicking the Villa players boot instead of the ball

Offside and onside decisions correctly made by the linesmen

Correct to send off Berge.

Awful not to give the handball.

Not a stonewall pen.

fidelcastro · Post by **fidelcastro** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:16 pm

Slightly off topic, but someone at the club needs to invest in a new subs bench. Our players keep getting injured on the current one.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:16 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:14 pm
Dean Smith who is Villa through and through said there’s no way it’s a penalty.

I dont care what he says, Ramsey kicked his boot which will cause anyone to lose balance when they are running

Westleigh · Post by **Westleigh** » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:17 pm

To sum up
Berge soft sending off
Defence nearly always concedes a soft goal
Their guy should have had a red for deliberate handball
Never a pen
Foster excellent
Definitely improving because instead of blaming VK et al I feel we’ve been robbed .