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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:25 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:19 pm
Still not seeing it myself either. Think he makes the team noticeably worse.
It’s been obvious all season that he’s a weak coward. To be honest I’m surprised it’s taken this long for a lot of people to see it.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Westleigh » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:29 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 3:30 pm
Could have done better but im not sure its really his fault, Vitinho was the culprit, playing them onside with his total lack of a brain
The ball that came from the right wing before Fulham got the corner they scored off was about 5 yds from the goal line and around 7 ‘ high Trafford could have caught it with one hand but was rooted like a statue on his line ,ok Vitinho was shocking but Trafford’s overall positioning is shocking ,if Kompany plays him next week it needs both of them to pack their bags.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Burnley1989 » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:30 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:25 pm
It’s been obvious all season that he’s a weak coward. To be honest I’m surprised it’s taken this long for a lot of people to see it.
Coward? Jesus Christ
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Westleigh » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:33 pm

Anthonini wrote:
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Another great game from our goalkeeper. Faultless again as far as I'm concerned. Some say he made a mistake by trying to claim the cross at Luton's equaliser but it looked like a good decision to me. Ref should have always called a foul.

Each game I'm more impressed by his abilities. Definitely PL standard and probably better already than half of the league.
Do you still think that after todays spectacular cock up?

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:34 pm

I just feel sorry for the lad. Should’ve been taken out the firing line a good while ago. He clearly isn’t ready and it’s killing us. (He isn’t the only problem)
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:34 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:30 pm
Coward? Jesus Christ
Yes, coward. Being scared to come out and claim the ball is cowardly.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Anthonini » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:36 pm

Mostly disappointed with Ekdal who looked oh so weak. Trafford kept us in the game I feel. Some amazing saves for me one of our best players.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:38 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:36 pm
Mostly disappointed with Ekdal who looked oh so weak. Trafford kept us in the game I feel. Some amazing saves for me one of our best players.
He made some good saves but he was poor for the second.

There’s no getting away from it.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Goliath » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:39 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:29 pm
The ball that came from the right wing before Fulham got the corner they scored off was about 5 yds from the goal line and around 7 ‘ high Trafford could have caught it with one hand but was rooted like a statue on his line ,ok Vitinho was shocking but Trafford’s overall positioning is shocking ,if Kompany plays him next week it needs both of them to pack their bags.
Id have to watch that again, i dont completely disagree im not a big fan of Trafford. But specifically the 2nd goal im not sure there was a lot he could do, he was hung out to dry.
I actually though he possibly could have saved the first one on the replay but id have to watch again.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by NewClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:40 pm

Worst and best of Trafford today.

No idea where Kompany goes from here tbh.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:43 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:39 pm
Id have to watch that again, i dont completely disagree im not a big fan of Trafford. But specifically the 2nd goal im not sure there was a lot he could do, he was hung out to dry.
I actually though he possibly could have saved the first one on the replay but id have to watch again.
Watch him change his mind for the second. Starts to come then changes his mind and is made to look like a fool with the shot just lifted over him.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Robbie_painter » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:43 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:38 pm
He made some good saves but he was poor for the second.

There’s no getting away from it.
Got caught in no man’s land,Vitinho was just as poor being 5 yards behind the defensive line and playing the lad onside but yes Trafford made it easy for him.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:44 pm

Thought Trafford was excellent today, kept us in the game. The second goal is a weird one because the pass was inch perfect if he comes, he doesn’t get there.

He does kind of get caught in the middle but it’s schoolboy defending for the defence to get caught out by one long ball straight down the middle.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by JimmyRobbo » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:44 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:33 pm
Do you still think that after todays spectacular cock up?
Spectacular?

Which instance? Leno lost in no-man's land for our 1st?

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by JimmyRobbo » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:45 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:44 pm
Thought Trafford was excellent today, kept us in the game. The second goal is a weird one because the pass was inch perfect if he comes, he doesn’t get there.

He does kind of get caught in the middle but it’s schoolboy defending for the defence to get caught out by one long ball straight down the middle.
That is exactly the correct analysis.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Goliath » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:54 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:43 pm
Watch him change his mind for the second. Starts to come then changes his mind and is made to look like a fool with the shot just lifted over him.
Youre probably right, id have to see it again it did look strange. But im not really sure what he could do, if he stays back they have an easy one on one surely

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Westleigh » Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:58 pm

Trafford -Inept ,no more needs saying.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:00 pm

Another weekly discussion on our inept keeper which should tell you all you need to know!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:01 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:54 pm
Youre probably right, id have to see it again it did look strange. But im not really sure what he could do, if he stays back they have an easy one on one surely
Add to his aimless flap for the corner but again not much he could have done……

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:02 pm

Mods - I hope you’ve permanently banned that poster GetIntoEm after that vile post he put up which was just removed (yes I saw it and have a screen shot).

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:02 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:01 pm
Add to his aimless flap for the corner but again not much he could have done……
It's strange how he closes his eyes and flaps at it in those situations. Does honestly look frightened to take contact.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Shaggy » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:03 pm

It’s a waste of time arguing any point as all his mistakes get highlighted along with general weakness and naivety, whilst at the same time all the routine work gets blown out of all proportion.

He’d be a great 5 a side keeper where reaction saves are needed and no defender is allowed in the box. On the big boy pitches he’s no where near ready for this level of football.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:04 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:58 pm
Trafford -Inept ,no more needs saying.
A lot like his manager who hasn’t yet demoted him to the bench. They have both cost us this season more than any others.

What the hell was the first today like he’d been shot by a sniper, just stand up and catch it🙈😂
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:06 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:02 pm
It's strange how he closes his eyes and flaps at it in those situations. Does honestly look frightened to take contact.
And that’s why I called him cowardly

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Vincent'sCap » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:06 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 5:25 pm
It’s been obvious all season that he’s a weak coward. To be honest I’m surprised it’s taken this long for a lot of people to see it.
Coward?
Take a break pal
Stop embarrassing yourself
Don't worry you will grow out of it eventually
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:13 pm

I’m sure Trafford will be brilliant in the Championship. Remained number 1 I presume due to his price tag.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:21 pm

If you watch the first goal back, the header comes off Berge, it wasn’t even going towards goal till it his Berge.

But a real lack in concentration to let the ball go out thinking it was a goal kick

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Shaggy » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:25 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:13 pm
I’m sure Trafford will be brilliant in the Championship. Remained number 1 I presume due to his price tag.
The only way he will be brilliant is if we have 60+ % of the ball.

The championship is a bit more thuggish then the EPL and I think he will fold under any physical pressure as he is built like a racing snake.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:26 pm

Undoubtedly our best/no. 1 keeper.l

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by SalisburyClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:26 pm

Kept us in it yet again.

However, despite playing behind a world-class defence, being too expensive, not Muric and being a total coward, he’ll also be to blame for famine, war and pestilence.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:27 pm

Any proper manager would have dropped him after spurs at home , it’s embarrassing how this is allowed to continue week and week month after month. Stupidity at the highest level.

Pace is the leader of some weird cult by the looks of it.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Murger » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:29 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:26 pm
Undoubtedly our best/no. 1 keeper.l
Laughable. He doesn’t command his area, he’s either rooted to his line or flaps at crosses, and the majority of his saves are camera saves.
Add the slow distribution to that list too. I really don’t see why he’s our undisputed number 1.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:29 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:21 pm
If you watch the first goal back, the header comes off Berge, it wasn’t even going towards goal till it his Berge.

But a real lack in concentration to let the ball go out thinking it was a goal kick
It was going straight towards him but he dived backwards like he’d been shot from the top of the JHU . Bizarre.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:34 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:26 pm
Undoubtedly our best/no. 1 keeper.l
Really don't know how you can confidently say that as a longstanding supporter leisure.

I'm not gonna dig him out and say he's s**t because he isn't and is still young, but I think the difference in our play, both build up and ability to retain possession (which is meant to be our game btw) with Muric between the sticks is so pain-stakingly obvious to see.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:34 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:29 pm
It was going straight towards him but he dived backwards like he’d been shot from the top of the JHU . Bizarre.
It hits Berge and comes at him so fast, I don’t think he can do out about that one. The second he either needs to be on the line or clear it but then again second half made some good saves
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Westleigh » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:42 pm

He could have easily prevented it from going for a corner in the first place ,it may not have been his fault from the corner but it’s happening every game
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Shaggy » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:46 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:42 pm
He could have easily prevented it from going for a corner in the first place ,it may not have been his fault from the corner but it’s happening every game
He was at fault at the corner as well. Got beaten at his near post by a weak header. The ball went over his head between his arms, and he was 2 yards behind the goal line.

Powder puff weak little boy is what he is.

It’s ok he made 2 saves in the 90 mins and he’s a superstar worth ever penny of the £19m transfer
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:47 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:42 pm
He could have easily prevented it from going for a corner in the first place ,it may not have been his fault from the corner but it’s happening every game
Exactly this.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:48 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:34 pm
It hits Berge and comes at him so fast, I don’t think he can do out about that one. The second he either needs to be on the line or clear it but then again second half made some good saves
He really doesn’t watch the ball very well.

Missed the flight of the ball last match and now this one was nowhere near it again. Scared to stand up tall at corners. Unbelievably weak.

The second was horrible, stood in no man’s land asking to be lobbed, second time this season.

Should not be no.1 end of. As a back up or on loan for the future no problem.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Dark Cloud » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:49 pm

Neither goal was Trafford 's fault and I'll nail my colours to the mast and say I'm not actually a fan. He was actually good today and made some pretty good saves second half. Assignon (who was otherwise extremely good) is initially at fault for the first goal because he stupidly lets it go out when he could have cleared it and it was blatantly obvious it wasn't a goal kick. After that the defending of the corner is league two level and that's being kind.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:51 pm

Murger wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:29 pm
Laughable. He doesn’t command his area, he’s either rooted to his line or flaps at crosses, and the majority of his saves are camera saves.
Add the slow distribution to that list too. I really don’t see why he’s our undisputed number 1.
Ask our manager.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:51 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:46 pm
He was at fault at the corner as well. Got beaten at his near post by a weak header. The ball went over his head between his arms, and he was 2 yards behind the goal line.

Powder puff weak little boy is what he is.

It’s ok he made 2 saves in the 90 mins and he’s a superstar worth ever penny of the £19m transfer
I think people don’t want to admit City pulled our pants down with this deal.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by IanMcL » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:52 pm

Regular errors and sucks the life out of us.
Replace.
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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:52 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:34 pm
Really don't know how you can confidently say that as a longstanding supporter leisure.

I'm not gonna dig him out and say he's s**t because he isn't and is still young, but I think the difference in our play, both build up and ability to retain possession (which is meant to be our game btw) with Muric between the sticks is so pain-stakingly obvious to see.
Our manager obviously doesn't agree with you and I'll trust him over you.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:54 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:52 pm
Our manager obviously doesn't agree with you and I'll trust him over you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:55 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:51 pm
I think people don’t want to admit City pulled our pants down with this deal.
More like ripped Kompany’s clothes off and burnt them with petrol. I wouldn’t be talking to Pep if I was him!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:56 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:52 pm
Regular errors and sucks the life out of us.
Replace.
Not sure who should be called Bill Murray, Kompany or Trafford.

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:56 pm


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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm

Leisure wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 6:56 pm
And!
and it's just a non argument!

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Re: TRAFFORD

Post by Leisure » Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:04 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 03, 2024 7:01 pm
and it's just a non argument!
Who's arguing. Just stating a fact that the manager obviously prefers Trafford to Muric.

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