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VK OUT !!

Post by ClaretsPadiham » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:45 pm

Embarrassing, don’t come up with we was playing Arsenal what do you expect.

What I expect is abit of fight and basic defending.

We’re a shamble, a mess, we are so bad at defending and the shape of team is all over the place.

Enough is enough now, he’s shown hes not going to try a different style or system or drop players who have stunk the place out all season.

He got found out early in the season, teams realised we aren’t good enough to play the way he wants and they can easily win the ball off us by a simple press.

He’s an imposter, the next Man City manager hahaha don’t make me laugh.

He simply has to go, thanks for last season but that should be his last dance.

The Belgium league was his level and he hardly set the world alight there.

He has a lot to learn and he needs to go somewhere else to learn it.

Do the right thing Alan and give us a slight hope of a new manager bounce, I’d even consider Jackson again till the end of the season. It nearly worked last time.
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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:47 pm

VK in for me. Another season to prove himself. But f*** this has been poor
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Post by ClaretsPadiham » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:50 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:47 pm
VK in for me. Another season to prove himself. But f*** this has been poor
This team could get relegated again, I fully believe that.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:51 pm

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Post by Stacks » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:52 pm

Agreed

Where all the $ he spent

Tresor, Ramsey, Trafford

I could throw up

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Post by Foshiznik » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:53 pm

Stacks wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:52 pm
Agreed

Where all the $ he spent

Tresor, Ramsey, Trafford

I could throw up
Why? Did you pay for them?
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:54 pm

He should have gone over ten games ago

Clear as day to anyone with eyes he’s Lampard 2.0

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Post by cockneyclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:59 pm

Sad to say I'm not bothered if he goes now or in the summer.. pretty much too late and gone to make the difference.
If we go down what's to say he'll stay??

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Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:01 pm

cockneyclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 4:59 pm
Sad to say I'm not bothered if he goes now or in the summer.. pretty much too late and gone to make the difference.
If we go down what's to say he'll stay??
Who else is going to want him after his pathetic season?

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:02 pm

VK was a warrior as a player - not likely he'll be impressed with the lack of fight.

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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:04 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:02 pm
VK was a warrior as a player - not likely he'll be impressed with the lack of fight.
Defence has been pretty pish all season

It's what has surpised me most.

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Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:05 pm

Vk will stay, we will be fine next season when we go again. Don’t be so short sighted.

We are terrible at the moment though and it is very very tough as a fan.
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Post by Shaggy » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:08 pm

This season has to be one of the worst in premier league history. There’s not many teams performed much worse than us in the leagues history.

If we keep VK then we deserve all we get.

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Post by cockneyclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:09 pm

StayingDown4Ever wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:01 pm
Who else is going to want him after his pathetic season?
Sadly join the scrapheap with Rooney and Lampard

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Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:09 pm

Still in for me, and it’d be pointless getting rid at this stage of the season anyway, but in a season absolutely littered with rank bad performances, that was probably the worst of the lot.

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Post by Guller Bull » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:10 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:05 pm
Vk will stay, we will be fine next season when we go again. Don’t be so short sighted.

We are terrible at the moment though and it is very very tough as a fan.
Up until today I agreed 100% with what you say.

I still want Vinny to be manager here next season but his lack of learning worries the hell out of me.

Where is the improvement, resilience and ambition?

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Post by kentonclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:12 pm

Vincent Kompany is like the Emperor that has no clothes. Everybody inside Turf Moor can see him completely exposed except those sitting in the directors box.

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Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:12 pm

I've said before it doesn't really make much of a difference if people want him to go or stay the facts are the club can't really afford to sack him.

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Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:12 pm

Feel like I have absolutely 0 connection to this squad after how much they’ve torn apart and thrown a new one together. Don’t feel like changing manager would make a difference.

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Post by Cooclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:12 pm

Finally, we can start these threads without bans!

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Post by CoolClaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:13 pm

Honestly this season was so predictable.

You just cannot do what he did in Summer and expect to have a cohesive unit.

It was obvious then, just painful now.

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Post by BobSykes » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:13 pm

This is now about the survival of the club

He's going to take us into League 1 and Pace will just sit there and let him

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Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:16 pm

Subs worked absolute wonders today. Actually managed to make us worse and still Benson doesn’t get a sniff.

******* ridiculous.
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Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:16 pm

I won't say VK out, but likewise can't and won't make an argument for him staying anymore.

It's worse than the Brian Laws era.

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Post by ecc » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:18 pm

He's plain wrong not to play Muric and Benson unless they're guilty of misconduct in which case they shouldn't even be in the squad.
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Post by BurnleyFC » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:21 pm

ecc wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:18 pm
He's plain wrong not to play Muric and Benson unless they're guilty of misconduct in which case they shouldn't even be in the squad.
Vinny’s team selections are bordering on misconduct.
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Post by Burnley87 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:21 pm

For the first time in 30 years watching burnley I really detest watching this team. I didn’t want to go on the game today and wish I didn’t. I see 11 individuals playing for themselves and a manager who is utterly clueless. I can understand a lack of quality, but there is a lack of hunger across the team. Nobody wearing the shirt with pride, nobody wanting to go the extra mile. Honestly if this is the new burnley then I’m out
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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:22 pm

That was dreadful. Don’t mind getting beat if you show some fight. Literally past caring what happens now.

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Post by Kgun5 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:23 pm

ecc wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:18 pm
He's plain wrong not to play Muric and Benson unless they're guilty of misconduct in which case they shouldn't even be in the squad.
If Muric didn’t start after last week, it’s clear he never will while Trafford is healthy. It really is brain-melting to try to discern any logic. I mean, how could someone so young be so stubborn?
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Post by MACCA » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:24 pm

SD got a chance to get us straight back up, and look how that turned out

After last season VK deserves a similar chance in my opinion.
He was God at full time at Ewood, now people are wanting him out.

It's been far from good, but the jump in quality is huge and with basically a new side, all young all foreign, its a huge adjustment learning on the job, and that goes for noth the players and the manager.

Let's be honest we are Down, have been since December, however we cannot afford for it to turn toxic snd have a hangover for next season.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:24 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:13 pm
Honestly this season was so predictable.

You just cannot do what he did in Summer and expect to have a cohesive unit.

It was obvious then, just painful now.
100% this, entirely predictable and the warning signs were given to us by a far more experienced Southampton side last season
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Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:24 pm

He’s an absolute embarrassment.

We are a laughing stock because of him.

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Post by Milltown1882 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:24 pm

Burnley87 wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:21 pm
For the first time in 30 years watching burnley I really detest watching this team. I didn’t want to go on the game today and wish I didn’t. I see 11 individuals playing for themselves and a manager who is utterly clueless. I can understand a lack of quality, but there is a lack of hunger across the team. Nobody wearing the shirt with pride, nobody wanting to go the extra mile. Honestly if this is the new burnley then I’m out
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Post by expoultryboy » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:24 pm

I don't know about VK out , but he ain't half stubborn and arrogant with his selections.

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Post by NickBFC » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:24 pm

Out for me.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:25 pm

MACCA wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:24 pm
SD got a chance to get us straight back up, and look how that turned out

After last season VK deserves a similar chance in my opinion.
He was God at full time at Ewood, now people are wanting him out.

It's been far from good, but the jump in quality is huge and with basically a new side, all young all foreign, its a huge adjustment learning on the job, and that goes for noth the players and the manager.

Let's be honest we are Down, have been since December, however we cannot afford for it to turn toxic snd have a hangover for next season.
Get what you are saying about Dyche getting a chance but don’t recall us going down with such a whimper under him.
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Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:25 pm

Kgun5 wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:23 pm
If Muric didn’t start after last week, it’s clear he never will while Trafford is healthy. It really is brain-melting to try to discern any logic. I mean, how could someone so young be so stubborn?
I can think of 19 million reasons…
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Post by Oldparkwood » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:29 pm

He has to go. It's no where near good enough. This has a different feel to when we went down with Dyche. There is absolutely no connection between fans, team and manager.

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Post by MACCA » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:30 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:25 pm
Get what you are saying about Dyche getting a chance but don’t recall us going down with such a whimper under him.
This is the difference between seasoned pros knowing the league, they had pride/fight.

These young foreign lads don't have that, nor the experience, they're raw.

But that's the new model under this ownership.

We complained about the style, the budget, the players of the ladt lot.

The new lot are spending, but have a model/plan, but that's buy young , potential and polish up.
The growth is there shouod we bounce back up.
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Post by KRBFC » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:33 pm

I’m surprised people get so upset when we lose to Arsenal, this deep into the season. We’re absolutely shite, what did you expect?

Serious mistakes made in the summer, I also hate how we completely abandoned the system and style that got us promoted. The pressing from the front, high line, inverted full back is completely gone. Now we look like a bunch of individual strangers strolling around.


Vincent Kompany is 8 years younger than Frank Lampard and 2 years younger than Cristiano Ronaldo. You can tell, he’s got a lot to learn especially at this level where he’s a complete rookie, making rookie mistakes.

Despite how bad it’s been this season, based on last season he’s earnt some credit in the bank to be given an opportunity to learn from his mistakes and try to take us forward again.
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Post by Cooclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:35 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:12 pm
I've said before it doesn't really make much of a difference if people want him to go or stay the facts are the club can't really afford to sack him.
They might not be able to afford it, but it’s not a fact. You know as much as we do, which is nothing.

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Post by Cooclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:35 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:33 pm
I’m surprised people get so upset when we lose to Arsenal, this deep into the season. We’re absolutely shite, what did you expect?

Serious mistakes made in the summer, I also hate how we completely abandoned the system and style that got us promoted. The pressing from the front, high line, inverted full back is completely gone. Now we look like a bunch of individual strangers strolling around.


Vincent Kompany is 8 years younger than Frank Lampard and 2 years younger than Cristiano Ronaldo. You can tell, he’s got a lot to learn especially at this level where he’s a complete rookie, making rookie mistakes.

Despite how bad it’s been this season, based on last season he’s earnt some credit in the bank to be given an opportunity to learn from his mistakes and try to take us forward again.
Show me evidence he’s learnt anything.

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Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:35 pm

MACCA wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:24 pm
SD got a chance to get us straight back up, and look how that turned out

After last season VK deserves a similar chance in my opinion.
He was God at full time at Ewood, now people are wanting him out.

It's been far from good, but the jump in quality is huge and with basically a new side, all young all foreign, its a huge adjustment learning on the job, and that goes for noth the players and the manager.

Let's be honest we are Down, have been since December, however we cannot afford for it to turn toxic snd have a hangover for next season.
Thing is the Dyche side very nearly stayed up which gave us a platform to build on, this side won't get within a dozen points of safety and will probably go down with a number of young players scarred by the experience of this season

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Post by WazzaClaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:35 pm

My take on it...

Even Jesus couldn't save us now so there's no point in swapping. VK has shown his inexperience this year, very naive. I think give him next season, see if he can do the same as last year and then he gets 10 games in the prem for me to see if he's learned his lessons from this season. Obviously very presumptuous that we go up again but as shown last year he is more than capable of romping it.

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Post by Shaggy » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:36 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:25 pm
Get what you are saying about Dyche getting a chance but don’t recall us going down with such a whimper under him.
Absolutely spot on. We were at least relatively competitive and never really cut adrift. This season we are On course to struggle to break the 20 point barrier. Regardless of what happened last season that is 100% unacceptable in anyones book and deserves the sack.

I can see us keeping VK and having an indifferent season next year. What will people say then? You’ve just wasted the season by being loyal because of last season.

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:38 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:35 pm
Show me evidence he’s learnt anything.
This is the really worrying thing for me.
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Post by Boss Hogg » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:39 pm

Been an out for me for ages. Too late now as the board decided this was want they wanted. Nothing will change from now til the end of the season. All dead rubbers and no improvement( as it was a number of matches ago). Started to find other things to do on a Saturday. Can’t see the entertainment in seeing us getting the basics wrong and seeing whether we lose 3, 4 or 5 nil.

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Post by kentonclaret » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:39 pm

WazzaClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:35 pm
My take on it...

Even Jesus couldn't save us now so there's no point in swapping. VK has shown his inexperience this year, very naive. I think give him next season, see if he can do the same as last year and then he gets 10 games in the prem for me to see if he's learned his lessons from this season. Obviously very presumptuous that we go up again but as shown last year he is more than capable of romping it.
The only problem with that is that assuming we can bounce back (not a given by any means) is that if he assembles another lightweight group of players to tackle the PL any new manager will be lumbered with them.

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Post by Carlos the Great » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:40 pm

When we got promoted I genuinely thought last years team would come easily mid table .. when we didn’t sign Tella I was gobsmacked and when we seemed to replace the whole team I was thinking this is a massive gamble and usually never works changing the whole team .. trust in VK .. but now I’m sure VK doesn’t know what he is doing and has wasted so much money
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Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:40 pm

WazzaClaret wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:35 pm
My take on it...

Even Jesus couldn't save us now so there's no point in swapping. VK has shown his inexperience this year, very naive. I think give him next season, see if he can do the same as last year and then he gets 10 games in the prem for me to see if he's learned his lessons from this season. Obviously very presumptuous that we go up again but as shown last year he is more than capable of romping it.
Will the board give him the money to buy the league again like we did last time?

I’m not so sure they will after he wasted £100m on trash like Trafford this summer.

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