Thomas Frank

[Tackler49]

How refreshing to hear a manager saying that he had no complaints about the two refereeing decisions that went against his team even though they were clear and obvious he didn’t try to make puerile excuses or say he didn’t see the incidents unlike some managers though he wasn’t happy with the Fofana wrestling move on Jorgensen. About time we got a lucky break

[agreenwood]

Had it not been for them scoring, I did wonder if VAR would have looked at the Muric challenge on Toney. He seemed to go through the back of him to claw the ball away a few moments earlier.

[ClaretTony]

Had it not been for them scoring, I did wonder if VAR would have looked at the Muric challenge on Toney. He seemed to go through the back of him to claw the ball away a few moments earlier.

They did actually look at it which is why we had the wait before restarting. What a farce it would have been if they'd decided it was a foul and given Brentford a penalty rather than a goal. Surely, once they'd scored the check should have stopped.

[ClaretTony]

How refreshing to hear a manager saying that he had no complaints about the two refereeing decisions that went against his team even though they were clear and obvious he didn’t try to make puerile excuses or say he didn’t see the incidents unlike some managers though he wasn’t happy with the Fofana wrestling move on Jorgensen. About time we got a lucky break

I wrote in my match report: "It’s refreshing to see a manager being so honest when a decision goes against his team. Many could learn from Frank."

[Wokingclaret]

Frank maybe ok but his backroom staff were a bit more ruthless in their behaviour

[THEWELLERNUT70]

I like him, he virtually always seems to come across very well, doesn't duck questions and seems balanced in his responses

[Bullabill]

He should shut his gob when chewing.

[claretspice]

They did actually look at it which is why we had the wait before restarting. What a farce it would have been if they'd decided it was a foul and given Brentford a penalty rather than a goal. Surely, once they'd scored the check should have stopped.

I assume they checked for offside against the player who retrieved the first cross on Brentford's right side in order to set up the cross from which they scored. It looked quite close from one replay I saw. Had they concluded offside they'd have legitimately gone back to look at the penalty appeal.

[ChrisG]

They did actually look at it which is why we had the wait before restarting. What a farce it would have been if they'd decided it was a foul and given Brentford a penalty rather than a goal. Surely, once they'd scored the check should have stopped.

Didn't that exact scenario happen against Bournemouth a few years back? They chalked off the goal and gave us a penalty didn't they?

[aggi]

Had it not been for them scoring, I did wonder if VAR would have looked at the Muric challenge on Toney. He seemed to go through the back of him to claw the ball away a few moments earlier.

I think Muric got a bit lucky there. Could easily see that being a penalty but not judged as they socred with a goal he could do nothing about.

[ClaretTony]

Didn't that exact scenario happen against Bournemouth a few years back? They chalked off the goal and gave us a penalty didn't they?

Totally different though in that the penalty award was going to the team who had been penalised by a goal being scored

[ClaretTony]

I think Muric got a bit lucky there. Could easily see that being a penalty but not judged as they socred with a goal he could do nothing about.

But they did judge it and that's why we had the long wait. They were still checking for a potential foul by Muric when the goal was scored and that check had to be completed before the goal could be given.

[aggi]

But they did judge it and that's why we had the long wait. They were still checking for a potential foul by Muric when the goal was scored and that check had to be completed before the goal could be given.

But they weren't going to disallow the goal to give the foul so we don't know what the outcome of that review of a possible foul by Muric would have been.

[claretspice]

But they did judge it and that's why we had the long wait. They were still checking for a potential foul by Muric when the goal was scored and that check had to be completed before the goal could be given.

Per comment above, not 100% sure that is correct. I think they looked for a reason to disallow the goal before thinking of going back for a penalty. Although even had they done so I'm pretty sure that the onfield decision wouldn't have been overturned- rash from Muric but he got something on the ball.

[clarets1978]

Frank maybe ok but his backroom staff were a bit more ruthless in their behaviour

What was going there in the 2nd half with that injury delay? I just saw the aftermath with cork, jay rod and gudmundsson kicking off at them

[FCBurnley]

I have not seen a single replay of the Muric challenge on Toney. CT description of events are correct. No replay always makes me suspicious. I wonder what would happen if after they scored the goal, the pen incident was checked and a penalty given ? I assume goal would be disallowed and a penalty awarded and prob a yellow card for Muric. Interesting passage of play for sure

[ClaretTony]

But they weren't going to disallow the goal to give the foul so we don't know what the outcome of that review of a possible foul by Muric would have been.

The goal would have been ruled out and a penalty given is what I’m told as daft as that seems

[clarets1978]

I have not seen a single replay of the Muric challenge on Toney. CT description of events are correct. No replay always makes me suspicious. I wonder what would happen if after they scored the goal, the pen incident was checked and a penalty given ? I assume goal would be disallowed and a penalty awarded and prob a yellow card for Muric. Interesting passage of play for sure

Was on the Sky highlights. Looked like he took him down but as Tony says, it was reviewed after the goal with a view to bringing it back so VAR deemed it not a penalty

[burnmark]

I joked at the time that the Burnley players were asking the ref to see if VAR would give the penalty as it would at least give us a chance to try to stop them scoring.

[aggi]

The goal would have been ruled out and a penalty given is what I’m told as daft as that seems

I wonder why that would be. I seem to remember there used to be a rule that you couldn't play advantage when it was a penalty but I thought that went years ago. You see a player getting cleaned out in the penalty area but then someone scoring often enough that you can clearly play advantage.

But if that is the case there is no way VAR would over-rule the ref, even if it was blatant, so I don't think that really judges either way what would have happened with Muric there.

[bodge]

From my view in the BL, it was a definite penalty for the Muric challenge, he cleaned him out.

[basil6345789]

Frank did a fine job in sorting out his team after the sending off. Fine management and no bullshit either. Top man!

[claretburns]

What was going there in the 2nd half with that injury delay? I just saw the aftermath with cork, jay rod and gudmundsson kicking off at them

Not sure what started it all but Maupay, surprise surprise, on the Brentford bench was having words with JBG and JBG didn't seem happy about it when he continued warming up with Brownhill.

[Anonymous Claret]

Frank by name, Frank by nature. It was really refreshing to hear his comments. Maybe Klopp and a few others could take some lessons on how to behave after a game where the result doesn't go their way.

[elwaclaret]

The way I saw it Maurice dived over the falling player and punched the ball while in mid air, thus playing the ball before contact with the player (by landing on him); therefore not a pen.

Another who likes Thomas Frank’s honesty

[South West Claret.]

How refreshing to hear a manager saying that he had no complaints about the two refereeing decisions that went against his team even though they were clear and obvious he didn’t try to make puerile excuses or say he didn’t see the incidents unlike some managers though he wasn’t happy with the Fofana wrestling move on Jorgensen. About time we got a lucky break

He does come across as reasonable fella doesn’t he.

[dougcollins]

Not sure what started it all but Maupay, surprise surprise, on the Brentford bench was having words with JBG and JBG didn't seem happy about it when he continued warming up with Brownhill.

Maupay pulled off JBG's earphones, proper playground stuff.

[mybloodisclaret]

Muric's wasn't a pen, never and delighted to see VAR not give it. Brentford were falling over all over the place on Saturday a la Ashley Barnes favourite ploy to win a free kick. The ball was in front of Toney Muric went and smashed the ball. He then landed on Toney. Nevermind.

When the trainer was on the pitch following the Fofana incident I observed one of the Brentford medical staff talking to the ref for at least a minute whilst the other was treating the player on the floor. It seemed from his actions and his body language (use of arms) he was trying to get Fofana in trouble but the ref wasn't having it.

It carried on at full time right in front of the tunnel, with the other Brentford medical chap seemingly going on about Muric's injury, the Burnley med bloke was going mad at him telling him there was a gash in his head, and that he should shut up and go away.