You support the truth?KateR wrote: ↑Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:18 pmI'm not sure what you're trying to say beyond the obvious trying to defend you're original post to be honest, I read your post and went to check facts, I didn't write them, I did not make them up, they appear to be facts to me, which does not support your thoughts/perception that you loudly proclaim incorrectly to be facts. Don't complain to me, just find other facts to refute the ones I posted and then we can agree that indeed some of the "fact" checking is wrong. I don't know whether you are right or wrong but I am at this moment believing the facts I checked against your perception of the truth. We are not discussing how he is doing C-19 wise, stop trying to defect and bring other points in to your original discussion that are irrelevant and do exactly what you complain Trump does, stop deflecting and stick to the points in question. Manufacturing and employment is what I posted is up to Jan 2020 in response to you're original post, so stick to the relevance of your original post. Further below is relevance to your being unable to hire people.
Regarding your post and hiring additional people I have a couple of thoughts for you and your no success, if your payroll went up, sign of good economy, which is supported by my post with actual numbers, not my perception. I have no idea in what industry you're talking about or what pay or benefits you were offering, so impossible for me to say why but I can categorically say it was not Trumps fault. Unless you're saying the economy growth and numerous jobs being filled stopped you from filling the roles. I have lived in California and Texas since 1996 while also doing international assignments, I have had to fill hundreds of jobs in numerous roles, never easy but I never failed and never blamed anyone else for it being difficult when it was.
In regard to Trump I have made it plain what I think so don't presume to tell me what I am or am not, you are in no position to know. Just for absolute clarity, what I am supporter of is the truth and am against hatred & bigotry and wherever I see it I will call it out, the numbers in a fact check shows you are at the best mistaken. I'm willing to hold my hand up and say those numbers are wrong when you can trot out numbers that support your perception, exactly the same kind of post about the number of flights going on, people should be able to check things first rather telling outright lies just because they want to get on the Trump haters bandwagon.
How many times have you spoken out against Trump on this message board?
How many times have you contradicted any of the other people defending Trump on this message board?
How many times have you called out Trump bigotry and hatred on this message board?
As for my problems with hiring,stop taking everything as an attack on Trump, I mentioned 5 years not 3, to emphasize that the economy was problematic for hiring before he took office, a sign that the economy was doing well under Obama for two years before Trump took the helm.
I mentioned the last 3 years of Obama's presidency,not the first 3. You brought that pony to the show not me. I lived through the great recession,I struggled through the great recession and it was Obama's policies,his awful habit of relying on experts and implementing their advice that brought the country back,despite 8 years of obstructionism from McConnell. I don't need advice from you regarding hiring,you missed the reason I mentioned it.
Obama's administration did indeed create 1.5 million more jobs in his last 3 years than Trump has in his first three. I didn't bring the employment math(s) into it because it would be unfair to the orange one. Just as I did not mention the total number of job loses under Obama in his first two years.
It stands to reason that the economy inherited by Trump was creating plenty of jobs,just like the economy was losing jobs in Obama's first two years. The American economy is a big ship,it takes time to change course,unless it hits a pandemic iceberg.
Your second post seemed a little bit more balanced,but again,if you are going to call out lies, bigotry and hatred, maybe be a little less selective on it. I don't group you in with Uwe or some of the other orange enablers,you are obviously very intelligent,but it would be wonderful to see you back up your self asserted calling out of hatred,bigotry and lies by calling out hatred bigotry and lies.