Tark - transfer

This Forum is the main messageboard to discuss all things Claret and Blue and beyond
Steddyman
Posts: 2402
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:45 pm
Been Liked: 624 times
Has Liked: 491 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Steddyman » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:43 pm

I think Tarks will go for £40 million including add-ons.

I'll be sad to see him go, but every player has their price. It's a good idea to include a player swap to reduce how much we pay Brentford.
This user liked this post: Burnley1989

Longsider
Posts: 2270
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:03 pm
Been Liked: 761 times
Has Liked: 722 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Longsider » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:44 pm

To get the 1000 reply I'll answer my own question. Yes we did. And we were all right weren't we

LoveCurryPies
Posts: 4287
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:00 am
Been Liked: 1599 times
Has Liked: 679 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by LoveCurryPies » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:47 pm

People need to remember it is Tarkowski’s career. At the end of the day, if a player feels they want to move up, then you can’t really stop them.

It’s probably best time for Burnley to sell before his contract runs down. £40million should give the Club funds to sign 2 or 3 players.
This user liked this post: Blackburn_Claret

Blackburn_Claret
Posts: 375
Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:16 pm
Been Liked: 85 times
Has Liked: 267 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:38 pm
Thanks for your contribution but I’d prefer it if you didn’t rubbish my correct information
Like when you rubbished my correct information about Gibson...? Whats the toe injury? How did it happen? Whats the timescale on it ?

fidelcastro
Posts: 7236
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:45 pm
Been Liked: 2195 times
Has Liked: 2176 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:51 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:48 pm
Like when you rubbished my correct information about Gibson...? Whats the toe injury? How did it happen? Whats the timescale on it ?
You know that CT isn't a physio, don't you?

:D
This user liked this post: Blackburn_Claret

Spijed
Posts: 17112
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:33 pm
Been Liked: 2892 times
Has Liked: 1294 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Spijed » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:58 pm

Deadline day is 5th October btw.

fidelcastro
Posts: 7236
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:45 pm
Been Liked: 2195 times
Has Liked: 2176 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:00 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:58 pm
Deadline day is 5th October btw.
You mean 10 more days of meltdowns?

:o

Blackburn_Claret
Posts: 375
Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:16 pm
Been Liked: 85 times
Has Liked: 267 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:01 pm

10 more days of fake news

fidelcastro
Posts: 7236
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:45 pm
Been Liked: 2195 times
Has Liked: 2176 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:06 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:01 pm
10 more days of fake news
Stop saying he's not injured then, when you've no idea whether he is or not.

Blackburn_Claret
Posts: 375
Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:16 pm
Been Liked: 85 times
Has Liked: 267 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:11 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:06 pm
Stop saying he's not injured then, when you've no idea whether he is or not.
I know he's not injured.

fidelcastro
Posts: 7236
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:45 pm
Been Liked: 2195 times
Has Liked: 2176 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:13 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:11 pm
I know he's not injured.
Really? How do you know?

Blackburn_Claret
Posts: 375
Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:16 pm
Been Liked: 85 times
Has Liked: 267 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:15 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:13 pm
Really? How do you know?
I've just made it up again

fidelcastro
Posts: 7236
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:45 pm
Been Liked: 2195 times
Has Liked: 2176 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:15 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:15 pm
I've just made it up again
Thought so.

Blackburn_Claret
Posts: 375
Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:16 pm
Been Liked: 85 times
Has Liked: 267 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:17 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:15 pm
Thought so.
So you believe he's injured?

fidelcastro
Posts: 7236
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:45 pm
Been Liked: 2195 times
Has Liked: 2176 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:17 pm
So you believe he's injured?
Not if he plays tomorrow, no.

;)
Last edited by fidelcastro on Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.

bfccrazy
Posts: 5158
Joined: Wed Feb 17, 2016 1:18 pm
Been Liked: 2103 times
Has Liked: 416 times
Location: Burnley

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by bfccrazy » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 pm

Well considering this sort of post does nothing for this board ..... it’s been quite a busy one.

Interesting that he didn’t play after this started then suddenly got a toe injury too ...... now he’s also interested in going to Leicester.
This user liked this post: Blackburn_Claret

Blackburn_Claret
Posts: 375
Joined: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:16 pm
Been Liked: 85 times
Has Liked: 267 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Blackburn_Claret » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:22 pm

bfccrazy wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:19 pm
Well considering this sort of post does nothing for this board ..... it’s been quite a busy one.

Interesting that he didn’t play after this started then suddenly got a toe injury too ...... now he’s also interested in going to Leicester.
You're not allowed to break news on here before those who think they're in the know! Surprised the thread wasn't closed.

Toe injury :lol: :lol: :lol:

fidelcastro
Posts: 7236
Joined: Sun Feb 28, 2016 8:45 pm
Been Liked: 2195 times
Has Liked: 2176 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by fidelcastro » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:28 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:22 pm
You're not allowed to break news on here before those who think they're in the know! Surprised the thread wasn't closed.

Toe injury :lol: :lol: :lol:
This from someone who had just posted that they KNOW that he isn't injured, with no proof to back it up.

:oops:

FactualFrank
Posts: 25445
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:46 am
Been Liked: 6930 times
Has Liked: 11660 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by FactualFrank » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:30 pm

Blackburn_Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:15 pm
I've just made it up again
Are you doing a Wellsy
This user liked this post: Blackburn_Claret

Down_Rover
Posts: 1749
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:09 pm
Been Liked: 445 times
Has Liked: 187 times
Location: Manchester

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Down_Rover » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:53 pm

My mate is a season ticket holder at Leicester, and has a thai wife who has been intimate with the owner.

She said The last offer was £40m but the deals off because Tarks has athletes foot
These 2 users liked this post: randomclaret2 NewClaret

Reecey1987
Posts: 2065
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:21 pm
Been Liked: 217 times
Has Liked: 97 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Reecey1987 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:03 am

DEMARAI GRAY wants to quit Leicester because of his bit-part role – and Tottenham are keen to take him, according to reports. Can rule him out as any part of deal

daveisaclaret
Posts: 2058
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:23 pm
Been Liked: 1129 times
Has Liked: 94 times
Location: your mum

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:52 am

I think a lot of people on here have misunderstood the £50m release clause. When Tarks signed his last contract there was an agreement included that if an offer of £50m was made by Liverpool or either of the Manchester clubs then it would be automatically accepted. It doesn't go any further than that.

It doesn't mean that any bids under £50m should be rejected, it doesn't mean he's "worth" £50m and it doesn't mean it would be a bad deal for us if we sold him for less than £50m.

Given that none of those clubs seem to want to sign him and that no club is going to offer £50m for him, it is little more than a red herring in whatever is or isn't happening with him.
This user liked this post: Quicknick

buzzclarets79
Posts: 666
Joined: Tue May 16, 2017 2:05 am
Been Liked: 227 times
Has Liked: 208 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by buzzclarets79 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:49 am

Players will always come and go, and this is the fact of Burnley FC, its happened for years now. Yes to see Tarks leave will be a sad day but he'll move on for a lot more than the 3.5 mill we spent to get him here, that is the business model we have to use to compete in this league.
Personally I think Dunne would come on leaps and bounds playing next to Mee, every other CB we had has (Keane,Tarks,Long). Mee is the organiser and Dunne would learn lots from him, be more gutted about losing Mee TBH, he is Burnley through and through now.
This user liked this post: Juan Tanamera

Grumps
Posts: 4145
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:15 am
Been Liked: 954 times
Has Liked: 359 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Grumps » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:09 am

buzzclarets79 wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:49 am
Players will always come and go, and this is the fact of Burnley FC, its happened for years now. Yes to see Tarks leave will be a sad day but he'll move on for a lot more than the 3.5 mill we spent to get him here, that is the business model we have to use to compete in this league.
Personally I think Dunne would come on leaps and bounds playing next to Mee, every other CB we had has (Keane,Tarks,Long). Mee is the organiser and Dunne would learn lots from him, be more gutted about losing Mee TBH, he is Burnley through and through now.
All true..... But Mee isn't fit, and we don't know when he will be.

burnley007
Posts: 2541
Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:49 am
Been Liked: 630 times
Has Liked: 667 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by burnley007 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:29 am

Grumps wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:09 am
All true..... But Mee isn't fit, and we don't know when he will be.
I think SD is hoping that most players will be fit after the international break.

Firthy
Posts: 4966
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:04 am
Been Liked: 1607 times
Has Liked: 275 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Firthy » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:26 am

I more convinced than ever that the rumours are all made up after reading this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... owski.html

Grumps
Posts: 4145
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:15 am
Been Liked: 954 times
Has Liked: 359 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Grumps » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:27 am

burnley007 wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:29 am
I think SD is hoping that most players will be fit after the international break.
History shows you should take what SD says about injury returns with a pinch of salt.

Belgianclaret
Posts: 2515
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:41 am
Been Liked: 932 times
Has Liked: 165 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:34 am

40 m is good business for a player bought for 3.5 after providing very good service. Has a Burnley buy & sell written all over it.
Onwards & upwards

summitclaret
Posts: 3891
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:39 pm
Been Liked: 826 times
Has Liked: 1307 times
Location: burnley

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by summitclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:42 am

buzzclarets79 wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 6:49 am
Players will always come and go, and this is the fact of Burnley FC, its happened for years now. Yes to see Tarks leave will be a sad day but he'll move on for a lot more than the 3.5 mill we spent to get him here, that is the business model we have to use to compete in this league.
Personally I think Dunne would come on leaps and bounds playing next to Mee, every other CB we had has (Keane,Tarks,Long). Mee is the organiser and Dunne would learn lots from him, be more gutted about losing Mee TBH, he is Burnley through and through now.
It is the business model we should be following, but this time we have messed up because we have not had the next cab off the rank ready, so to speak. Neither Dunne nor Thomas has ever played alongside Mee in a competitive game yet.

Someone should have been brought in by now to replace Gibson.

We can't risk Dunne as a season long starter. He would benefit from a loan in the Championship.

Belgianclaret
Posts: 2515
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:41 am
Been Liked: 932 times
Has Liked: 165 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:10 am

20 million will get you Simon Deli from Bruges (but don’t say you heard it from me)

MACCA
Posts: 15591
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:10 am
Been Liked: 4360 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by MACCA » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:14 am

Said it for a few weeks now 35-49m cash will get him.

If it sllows us to buy 3 or 4 players, rebuild the squad and break even or better with Ll this covid uncertainty, then it's a good deal for Burnley.

It is also the prime time to sell as we would be lucky to get even 15-20m next summer.

Thanks Tarky, good luck in the future.
Your performances and subsequent transfer fee has helped prolong our premier league stay, and secured at least our short term future financially.

mdd2
Posts: 6012
Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2016 8:47 pm
Been Liked: 1665 times
Has Liked: 700 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by mdd2 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:18 am

Belgianclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:10 am
20 million will get you Simon Deli from Bruges (but don’t say you heard it from me)
And that would leave us with £10million left over if the cut to Brentford is 27.5%
if Tarks goes for £40million
Get Dawson for £5-10 million and the surplus would be £15-20 million.
I suppose it is a judgement call on SD as to how good Thomas and Dunne will become

Andreshotboots
Posts: 1678
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 6:05 pm
Been Liked: 647 times
Has Liked: 102 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Andreshotboots » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:25 am

Tarky will hate it at Leicester.. Full of foreign players, banter nothing like our dressing room. The 100k a week might help a little I suppose!!! He needs to dump that interfering stupid bird of his and stay with the mightly clarets...

kentonclaret
Posts: 6434
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:06 pm
Been Liked: 969 times
Has Liked: 204 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by kentonclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:31 am

You have to hand it to Brentford with their transfer dealings, a whopping 27,5% Sell On fee negotiated for Tarks but just a 15% Sell On fee for Ollie Watkins.

randomclaret2
Posts: 6880
Joined: Mon Mar 07, 2016 5:04 pm
Been Liked: 2742 times
Has Liked: 4314 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by randomclaret2 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:35 am

Althought the fee theyve got for Watkins is considerably higher than we paid for Tarkowski

Down_Rover
Posts: 1749
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:09 pm
Been Liked: 445 times
Has Liked: 187 times
Location: Manchester

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Down_Rover » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:35 am


NewClaret
Posts: 13222
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:51 am
Been Liked: 3037 times
Has Liked: 3759 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:39 am

randomclaret2 wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:35 am
Althought the fee theyve got for Watkins is considerably higher than we paid for Tarkowski
Yep, that’s the difference. 10x more or something daft.

Personally don’t have any issue with us offering high sell-on clauses and think we should structure deals that way given our cash constraints!

boatshed bill
Posts: 15107
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:47 am
Been Liked: 3137 times
Has Liked: 6682 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:52 am

Picked this off BBC Sport


The Clarets are winless in each of the last 18 Premier League fixtures that James Tarkowski has missed, losing 10 of those matches.


.

evensteadiereddie
Posts: 9585
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:45 pm
Been Liked: 3146 times
Has Liked: 10202 times
Location: Staffordshire

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by evensteadiereddie » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:57 am

We need to do something about that today.

Conroysleftfoot
Posts: 2105
Joined: Sat May 09, 2020 2:06 pm
Been Liked: 349 times
Has Liked: 293 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:58 am

Would like to know when Mee is going to be back ready for the first team. Would feel a lot more confident with him around to support whoever steps into Tarky's spot.

NewClaret
Posts: 13222
Joined: Tue Dec 31, 2019 9:51 am
Been Liked: 3037 times
Has Liked: 3759 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by NewClaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:59 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:52 am
Picked this off BBC Sport


The Clarets are winless in each of the last 18 Premier League fixtures that James Tarkowski has missed, losing 10 of those matches.


.
Thats exactly why the muted £35-£40m some would accept is far too low. You have to consider the cost of relegation when assessing players values.
These 2 users liked this post: FactualFrank evensteadiereddie

Gordaleman
Posts: 3981
Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:04 pm
Been Liked: 853 times
Has Liked: 604 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:59 am

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 10:52 am
Picked this off BBC Sport


The Clarets are winless in each of the last 18 Premier League fixtures that James Tarkowski has missed, losing 10 of those matches.


.
Let's hope he plays then. And he might.

levraiclaret
Posts: 1566
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:40 am
Been Liked: 428 times
Has Liked: 1460 times
Location: Leicestershire
Contact:

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by levraiclaret » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:19 am

Andreshotboots wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:25 am
Tarky will hate it at Leicester.. Full of foreign players, banter nothing like our dressing room. The 100k a week might help a little I suppose!!! He needs to dump that interfering stupid bird of his and stay with the mightly clarets...
Knowing he was second choice behind Wesley Fofana and being ridiculed and given a nickname by Vardy.

cblantfanclub
Posts: 416
Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:11 pm
Been Liked: 117 times
Has Liked: 305 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by cblantfanclub » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:29 am

The Clarets are winless in each of the last 18 Premier League fixtures that James Tarkowski has missed, losing 10 of those matches.

Who were they against and at what point of the season?

Zlatan
Posts: 5458
Joined: Wed Jun 08, 2016 2:06 pm
Been Liked: 2229 times
Has Liked: 5739 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Zlatan » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:29 am

I’ll be glad when he’s finally gone. Not that I want him to go, he’s a great player and one of my favourites - especially since learning his shithousery skills from Barnes. But the thing is, he wants what’s best for him and that’s playing at the highest level possible, I wish him well, and now want him gone so we can move on.

If he stays, we lose an awful amount of cash and there’s still no guarantee of staying in the Premier League. If he goes, we get good money and we trust our system to shape the next big CB at the club.

boatshed bill
Posts: 15107
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:47 am
Been Liked: 3137 times
Has Liked: 6682 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:31 am

cblantfanclub wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:29 am
The Clarets are winless in each of the last 18 Premier League fixtures that James Tarkowski has missed, losing 10 of those matches.

Who were they against and at what point of the season?
TBH I can't remember him missing that many games.
They could be including League Cup games, but that would be wrong anyhow. ?

Conroysleftfoot
Posts: 2105
Joined: Sat May 09, 2020 2:06 pm
Been Liked: 349 times
Has Liked: 293 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:49 am

levraiclaret wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:19 am
Knowing he was second choice behind Wesley Fofana and being ridiculed and given a nickname by Vardy.
But if he goes to Leicester he would be able to give Vardy a few whacks in training.

Spijed
Posts: 17112
Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:33 pm
Been Liked: 2892 times
Has Liked: 1294 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Spijed » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:53 am

I just hope we haven't left Tarkowski out of the matches just to protect him from any injury.

I'd rather pick up points now and see him go for far less next season if it means us stopping up.

Gordaleman
Posts: 3981
Joined: Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:04 pm
Been Liked: 853 times
Has Liked: 604 times

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by Gordaleman » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:55 am

Spijed wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:53 am
I just hope we haven't left Tarkowski out of the matches just to protect him from any injury.

I'd rather pick up points now and see him go for far less next season if it means us stopping up.
Don't be surprised if he plays tonight. I'm not sure he's going anywhere until at least January.

But then I'm an optimist.

FactualFrank
Posts: 25445
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2016 12:46 am
Been Liked: 6930 times
Has Liked: 11660 times
Location: Leeds

Re: Tark - transfer

Post by FactualFrank » Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:56 am

I will certainly be surprised if he plays tonight.

Pleasantly surprised.

Locked