BFC TRANSFER NEWS SUMMER/AUTUMN 2020 (MUST CONTAIN LINK)

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:30 pm

Funkydrummer wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:28 pm
Extract from the BBC website.

Burnley's move for Wales winger Harry Wilson, 23, could now collapse as they are reluctant to meet Liverpool's £15m asking price. (Football Insider)

Sound familiar, if true ?

I thought it was £20 million?

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:30 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:58 am
Eliasson has gone to Rimmes.

Marc Roca has gone to Bayern Munich.

Sean: Mike, did you put that bid in for Roca.

Mike: Ah, well, about that Sean, I’m still trying to work out if we can afford him. There’s a formula error in my Covid spreadsheet and I’m struggling to fix it.

Sean: Well he’s gone to Bayern.

Mike: Oh, phew.

fatboy47 · Post by **fatboy47** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:34 pm

I like jelly babies but I wouldn't pay 50 quid for a bag of them however hungry I was.

At current prices I still struggle to see more than 7/8m tops in Wilson.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:34 pm

I'm more than happy for us to walk away if Liverpool are trying to have our car up on bricks, as they seem to have a habit of doing (see Solanke, Ibe and MAYBE Brewster). Wilson would have been an excellent "punt" at the right price, but he really is a punt and hardly pulled up trees previously or warrants any club pushing the boat out and breaking their transfer record, especially us. Move on by all means, but I just hope we have been thinking about where we might move on to all along!

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:56 pm

And we’ve shown in the past we are really good at moving on and signing our other targets in the last few days of the transfer window!?

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:07 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:19 pm
We didn't know Ben Mee was going to get injured.

That's why I find it ironic but had Gibson actually gone to Norwich before we knew about Mee's injury?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:11 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:29 pm
Love the way how over 2 years we have built up this huge team of Technical Director and analysts claiming to know everything about any player in the world-probably can tell us what these guys eat for lunch

So what are the results two years down the line for this much needed window, with two days to go. One is Stephens who we should have signed 4 years ago. Now the next rumor at the twelfth hour is Dawson who we have been courting since our initial interest in Stephens and who we have tried to sign half a dozen times. Both of course are very needy players for us. However Mr Garlick is this the best your team of recruiters can do

Doesn't matter who the recruitment team identify or put forward, the final decision is made by the man who signs the cheques.

If they found the next Messi and Mike said computers says no, hows that the recruitment teams fault?

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:20 pm

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:34 pm
I'm more than happy for us to walk away if Liverpool are trying to have our car up on bricks, as they seem to have a habit of doing (see Solanke, Ibe and MAYBE Brewster). Wilson would have been an excellent "punt" at the right price, but he really is a punt and hardly pulled up trees previously or warrants any club pushing the boat out and breaking their transfer record, especially us. Move on by all means, but I just hope we have been thinking about where we might move on to all along!

I agree, but the problem is the Plan B always seems to be the older, back-up players. The right-wing and Centre back positions are a priority for us right now and I can't see us signing any first teamers at this late stage.

Zlatan · Post by **Zlatan** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:32 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:30 pm
I thought it was £20 million?

It was, they dropped their asking price because we wouldn’t go that high. They risk keeping an unwanted player if they don’t accept what someone is willing to pay, their choice

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:39 pm

warksclaret wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:37 pm
I would like to table a move to get him. This rumor has legs

Hope he runs a lot and isn’t a lazy boy

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:53 pm

Much as I would like to see a couple added, I realise it has to be the right ones at the right prices. If all the boxes are not ticked then I’d rather we did not blow multiple millions the club are uncomfortable about paying. If we have to go with what we have, or can bring in a rabbit Or two out of the hat before the deadline... then that is just the way it is in the current climate. Player values are likely to keep dropping while the virus rules the world. Tougher than ever to justify expenditure when you know the asset is likely to depreciate before it grows.... like buying stocks when the market is falling, you hold until you see some stability returning.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:08 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:30 pm
Sean: Mike, did you put that bid in for Roca.

Mike: Ah, well, about that Sean, I’m still trying to work out if we can afford him. There’s a formula error in my Covid spreadsheet and I’m struggling to fix it.

Sean: Well he’s gone to Bayern.

Mike: Oh, phew.

Utd: we got two bids for you, Burnley and Bayern
Roca: What time is the flight?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:43 pm

Burnley Ace wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:08 pm
Utd: we got two bids for you, Burnley and Bayern
Roca: What time is the flight?

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:47 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:56 pm
And we’ve shown in the past we are really good at moving on and signing our other targets in the last few days of the transfer window!?

Not for the past two seasons (4 windows) we haven't, we've been crap.

BOYSIE31 · Post by **BOYSIE31** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:50 pm

Joe lolly being banded about now

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:57 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:50 pm
Joe lolly being banded about now

I hope not, that'll be another that people can't spell correctly.

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:08 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:57 pm
I hope not, that'll be another that people can't spell correctly.

LOL

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:15 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:50 pm
Joe lolly being banded about now

He would get stick.

Jakubs Tash · Post by **Jakubs Tash** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:21 pm

Steddyman wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:47 pm
Not for the past two seasons (4 windows) we haven't, we've been crap.

**Whooooosh**

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:33 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:21 pm
**Whooooosh**

claptrappers_union · Post by **claptrappers_union** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:41 pm

Has anyone else actually stopped reading this thread? I just and start at the bottom of the newest page and then scroll up looking for links.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:41 pm

claptrappers_union wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:41 pm
Has anyone sense actually stopped read this thread

I fee like I've lost my sense reading that bit

Petersa · Post by **Petersa** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:43 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:50 pm
Joe lolly being banded about now

Could we be frozen out of that one?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:44 pm

Petersa wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:43 pm
Could we be frozen out of that one?

That would suck.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 3:58 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:50 pm
Joe lolly being banded about now

No where near good enough, but ticks all the right boxes I suppose

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:07 pm

Craig Dawson not even on the bench today for Watford

Maybe.......

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:08 pm

mkmel wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:07 pm
Craig Dawson not even on the bench today for Watford

Maybe.......

Probably injured.

AshevilleNCClaret · Post by **AshevilleNCClaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:13 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:08 pm
Probably injured.

He would fit right in with our squad then.... old and injured.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:24 pm

burnleymik wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:20 pm
I agree, but the problem is the Plan B always seems to be the older, back-up players. The right-wing and Centre back positions are a priority for us right now and I can't see us signing any first teamers at this late stage.

And I agree in turn with you. We have to turn away from Wilson and suddenly try to land our "alternative(s)" with the window about to slam shut and we really haven't got a good record there. I can't name all the various players involved in those deals off the top of my head, but Sordell was definitely one and Vydra (who I happen to rather like) definitely was too and I think SD showed his displeasure at being foisted with a last minute, rushed, third or fourth choice signing by freezing him out for much of his time with us.

matttheclaret · Post by **matttheclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:25 pm

Daily Mail saying we're trying to sign Lawrence Shankland on loan from Dundee United

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:28 pm

matttheclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:25 pm
Daily Mail saying we're trying to sign Lawrence Shankland on loan from Dundee United

Read that, but don't understand the loan bit, why would we do that?

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:31 pm

Grumps wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:28 pm
Read that, but don't understand the loan bit, why would we do that?

Because we don't have the money to buy him now that Tarks is staying.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:34 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 12:30 pm
I thought it was £20 million?

been reported all week that Andrew (can't remember his last name but he is in charge of transfers at Liverpool) would not take less than 15

Grumps · Post by **Grumps** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:39 pm

Firthy wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:31 pm
Because we don't have the money to buy him now that Tarks is staying.

Doubt he's in the 20mill bracket..
Working on your logic we haven't got 500k plus wages to waste on someone who won't play then.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:47 pm

Taken from BBC report on Dundee Utd v Livingston yesterday

"Scotland striker Lawrence Shankland was worryingly anonymous upfront"

Longsider · Post by **Longsider** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:55 pm

mkmel wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:07 pm
Craig Dawson not even on the bench today for Watford

Maybe.......

Off to West Ham after their attempt to get Tarks came to nothing

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:04 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:50 pm
Joe lolly being banded about now

I can't see that one happening.

Lolley is a good player and he strikes me as being a better fit for us than Wilson. He has done really well since he moved to Forest, becoming a firm fan favourite, and playing in front of Cash seemed to bring out the best in him.

When he had to play on the left wing he didn't look that shabby either.

Selling Matty Cash has given Forest some financial freedom, on top of them having a very rich owner. When we supposedly expressed an interest in signing Worrall they put a price tag of 12m on him and they stuck firmly to it.

Joe Lolley signed up to a new four and half year contract with them in February of last year and he is one of their primary creators. They don't really have another dedicated player for the right wing slot, apart from the untested Mighten, although they have a few players who can fill in ( their forwards and Freeman ).

Now, towards the end of last season Lolley suffered badly from shin splits and every team has had a very short respite between last season and this season. If we look at the playing stats of Lolley since the start of this season his performances are down and he is spending less time on the pitch before being substituted. He got 59 minutes in their first game, 36 in their second, 14 in their third and he wasn't in their squad for the last game. That strikes me as unusual, when we consider that they lost all three of those games and he is one of their most important players. You would think having him on the pitch for the whole game would be imperative.

https://www.nottinghamforest.news/2019/ ... am-forest/

https://forest.vitalfootball.co.uk/repo ... ssociated/

I think those shin splits are still troubling him, which wouldn't be surprising, because he hasn't really had a full rest period. Severe shin splits can take a number of inactive months to heal.

So, Lolley is an important player for Forest, he is a fan favourite, they have no suitable replacement player in their squad, they aren't desperate for money and he might be injured.

I could be wrong about his possible price, his availability and injury, but I would hope we have a few other options to work with in case I'm right.

If it did happen he would probably cost us a lot of lolly - sorry the best ice pop puns were taken.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:04 pm

https://www.footballfancast.com/liverpo ... rs-burnley

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:07 pm

ClaretAL wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:04 pm
https://www.footballfancast.com/liverpo ... rs-burnley

I don't want us to appear desperate. It sounds like we want to buy and it might be our only chance of bringing in someone to compete with JBG... but at the same time Liverpool don't want to keep him and want to get the best price for him.

I think we need to find an alternative and basically tell Liverpool - take it or leave it.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:20 pm

Its possible of course Liverpool come back at the last hour accepting our offer and we then turn it down as the Tarks move did not happen.How funny would that be

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:38 pm

Grumps wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:28 pm
Read that, but don't understand the loan bit, why would we do that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -deal.html

Because he is unproven. He has scored a lot of goals, but they have all been in the Scottish Championship. He did play in their Premiership with Aberdeen for one season and failed to score in 17 matches, but that was 4 years ago and he will have improved since then.

After his contract ran out with Ayr United he attracted some passing interest from a couple of Championship clubs, but instead of welcoming a greater challenge in England or signing for Rangers ( who reputedly enquired about his availablity ) he signed for Dundee and stayed in the Scottish Championship.

This isn't the first time that we have been linked with him. I recall a couple of rumours about interest in him when Rigg first arrived.

The bigger question is why would we need another striker and why would Dundee send their golden boy out on loan for 500K in their first season back in the Premiership. 500K won't go far towards fixing a financial short fall if they do have one.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 6:39 pm

i would like us to offer 1.5m more and meet them halfway. The more I look at his highlights the more I can see he is just what we need, and very similar technique to Beckham on free kicks

https://youtu.be/M7vZPI8NBBI

https://youtu.be/IWQ7DGWPY_g

https://youtu.be/NB-4oV4a8ek

https://youtu.be/IgZV9LwsOpA

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:40 pm

At least we can end this thread now.

Dyche “We haven't activated where we would have liked in the market. I don't think there will be anything happening (in the window)
When we get everyone fit and you look at the group then we are one or two short but generally we have a good squad”

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:44 pm

MDWat wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:40 pm
At least we can end this thread now.

Dyche “We haven't activated where we would have liked in the market. I don't think there will be anything happening (in the window)
When we get everyone fit and you look at the group then we are one or two short but generally we have a good squad”

I can only assume we really did have no budget at all and any incomings (sans Stephens) were down to Tarky going. We’ve seemingly decided having the Pope-Mee-Tarky triumvirate is more important than Wilson to our prospects of staying up, perhaps?

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:47 pm

MDWat wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:40 pm
At least we can end this thread now.

Dyche “We haven't activated where we would have liked in the market. I don't think there will be anything happening (in the window)
When we get everyone fit and you look at the group then we are one or two short but generally we have a good squad”

Was that after the match today?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:49 pm

Jesus. What a horrible quote. "We haven't activated the market". One of his worst bits of spiel that.

Ah well. We're such a joyful club.

Sproggy · Post by **Sproggy** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:50 pm

Good to see Mike maximising the value of our time in the Premier League

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:51 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 03, 2020 10:44 pm
I can only assume we really did have no budget at all and any incomings (sans Stephens) were down to Tarky going. We’ve seemingly decided having the Pope-Mee-Tarky triumvirate is more important than Wilson to our prospects of staying up, perhaps?

Yep. That's what I and many said the moment it was announced Tarky was staying. Sadly, our chairman is skint.

Red Fox Rocks Socks · Post by **Red Fox Rocks Socks** » Sat Oct 03, 2020 11:33 pm

I have to say this is going to be box office for the next 2 days in here....if I could do that popcorn emoji I’d be all over it

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 10:07 am

Only 37 hours to go, to be fair it's gone quite fast.

Someone might want to start a transfer rumours thread now, it's officially the start of Burnleys transfer window