BigRedrose wrote: ↑Sun Oct 11, 2020 3:00 pm
I've done all these things over the last few months BH, strictly within the guidance available at the time. I can't see how I've made it much harder for anyone else. The pubs that have flouted the laws have been rightly closed down, (including at least one in Burnley). In my experience the overwhelming majority of pubs I've visited or come across are adhering meticulously to the law.
That, of course, doesn't mean other pubs are doing everything right. There's a Brewers Fayre place near me that have everything set up spot on. For me, I actually prefer it when you go to your seat and they come to you.
There's other pubs I've been into where it's obvious that things aren't ran properly. Some are, some aren't. Because one person goes into a few pubs and everything is ran smoothly, in no way says they all are.
Nearly third of UK coronavirus cases spread through pubs and restaurants, minister says
Evidence presented to MPs shows hospitality is single biggest spreader of infection, warns Nadhim Zahawi
A third of all UK coronavirus infections are spreading through pubs and restaurants, business minister Nadhim Zahawi has said.
Some 30 per cent of all Covid-19 cases are being contracted by people visiting such venues according to evidence presented to MPs by Chris Whitty, he told the BBC on Friday morning.
"The evidence that Chris Whitty shared with my colleagues, northern MPs, yesterday, does demonstrate that between restaurants, bars and cafes about 30 per cent of the infections are coming through that hospitality, social interactions, if I can describe it as such,” he said.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 04636.html
Pubs and restaurants: do scientists think Covid closures and curfews work?
Are pubs and restaurants important in the spread of Covid-19?
Outbreaks often begin in crowded indoor settings, such as cruise ships, conferences, bars and restaurants, with transmission then occurring beyond that, for example, in households. That’s according to studies cited by Dr Michael Head, a senior research fellow in global health at the University of Southampton.
Prof Linda Bauld, a public health expert at the University of Edinburgh, agreed, noting that contact tracing data from Aberdeen, where a local lockdown was imposed for three weeks in August, showed that the outbreak was triggered by a small number of infectious people entering hospitality venues.
“The idea with restricting access to pubs or restaurants, or closing them altogether, is that we can break the chain of transmission, reduce the number of super-spreading events, and then that should have a decent impact in terms of lowering new outbreaks and therefore onward transmission,” said Head.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... work-virus
But then of course, you read conflicting reports that pubs count for as little as 5% of cases.