Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by huw.Y.WattfromWare » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:25 pm

Game over so I'll say it now. It is time to rest Dwight. he's lost his mojo and needs time to find it. Adds nothing offensively or defensively this season.
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Elizabeth » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:25 pm

Well done Ben Mee, he excelled

A defeat avoided which was essential

Brighton can be lumped with West Brom, Fulham, Sheff Utd as teams who could keep us up

We will play better once we find some confidence.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Spijed » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:25 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:23 pm
A point that, quite frankly, we did not deserve

Thanks to Pope, Mee and Tarks

The rest - sorry just not good enough against toothless opponents
Brighton hardly had any goal scoring attempts in fairness though and we defended very well.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:26 pm

All through the summer it was said by many that we needed pace out wide and strength in centre mid

That's why we don't look likely to score in games

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by tiger76 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:26 pm

A point is better than nothing, and Ben returning and us keeping a clean sheet can't be a coincidence, well done to the defence, however our midfield and forward line desperately needs to improve if we're going to gather enough wins, Brighton weren't great either, and there's every chance they'll be in the mix come next spring.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:26 pm

Better performance but only because we looked more assured at the back with Mee back in there.

Just need to get more creative going forward and start scoring again

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:26 pm

Brighton never looked like scoring second half, but then again we never looked like scoring in EITHER half!
For all our moaning about how rubbish we looked, the Burnley we have known and loved for the past 7 years would probably have played exactly the same, BUT would have (undeservedly!) won that game, but having said that, they DEFINITELY wouldn't have lost it. So overall a positive!

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by jackmiggins » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:27 pm

Embarrassing.....we can defend, but we certainly didn’t play any football.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:27 pm

Fantastic to have Sir Benjamin of Mee back at the heart of the defence and as skipper.

What a man mountain that lad is.
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by JohnMac » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:28 pm

It's hard to win when you have 6 players doing very little.

Well played the Burnley Back 5.
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by ClaretMov » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:28 pm

Toothless from the midfield up to the front line, but welcome back Ben Mee you have been missed

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:28 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:25 pm
Brighton hardly had any goal scoring attempts in fairness though and we defended very well.
Brighton had 19 shots against our 4

Thank god they were almost as bad as us

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by bfcjg » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:28 pm

Dyche is morphing into Cotterill, we start with a clean sheet and a point let's keep it that way style tactics. I would absolutely hate playing football that way and I suggest the players are also sick of it.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by claretblue » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:29 pm

our substitutions have frequently frustrated me!
Tonight, again, Jay ready to come on at 61/62 mins...actually on at 69mins...why delay??
Brighton player approaches touch line and on after 1 min!
:(
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Winstonswhite » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:29 pm

Good result!

Reminds me of Dyches first six months.

We’ll come good soon.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by NewClaret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:29 pm

Main issue is the right side. Not to say the left or central midfielders played well tonight either, but our right side is basically non-existent. Appalling that we made no effort to strengthen that this summer!

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by tiger76 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:29 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:25 pm
Game over so I'll say it now. It is time to rest Dwight. he's lost his mojo and needs time to find it. Adds nothing offensively or defensively this season.
Fair enough, but who plays on the left in his absence, this is the problem we don't have any strength in depth if a first teamer is out of form, injured or suspended.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:30 pm

They have probably the tallest centre half in the division and we lump it towards Wood.
Lucky point tonight, perhaps we'll improve now we have our skipper back, but we need to improve tactically.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by MT03ALG » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:30 pm

3 goals in 7 games. Start with Rodriguez and Vydra for a change, then Wood and Barnes later on if necessary....
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by jojomk1 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:30 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:30 pm
They have probably the tallest centre half in the division and we lump it towards Wood.
Lucky point tonight, perhaps we'll improve now we have our skipper back, but we need to improve tactically.
We ALWAYS lump it towards Wood :D
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Rumbletonk » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:31 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:25 pm
Brighton hardly had any goal scoring attempts in fairness though and we defended very well.
Apart for the two 1 on 1s

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:33 pm

1 goal in 6 and 1 shot on target in 2 games ffs. Laughable

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:33 pm

Rumbletonk wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:31 pm
Apart for the two 1 on 1s
Yes. We owe the point to Nick (I'm not challenging Pickford) Pope :D

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by claretblue » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:33 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:06 pm
Garlicks fattening of the goose for the big payday is falling apart with every passing game.

The goose is well and truly cooked
we don’t do a ‘passing game’ :?
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by exilecanada » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:34 pm

Woeful effort! Totally void of ideas up front. Albert Einstein's definition of insanity sums us up perfectly. "Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"

:shock:
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:36 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:30 pm
They have probably the tallest centre half in the division and we lump it towards Wood.
Lucky point tonight, perhaps we'll improve now we have our skipper back, but we need to improve tactically.
He’s their left winger, not a defender

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Rumbletonk » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:38 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:33 pm
Yes. We owe the point to Nick (I'm not challenging Pickford) Pope :D
Absolutely. Pope was great (kicking aside), defence were ok, the rest were dreadful. The worrying thing, or one of the worrying things, for me was the speed and depth of pressing. We got off with that.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:41 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:36 pm
He’s their left winger, not a defender
Dan Burn? I've only listened, but thought he was their centre-back?

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by jackmiggins » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:44 pm

Half a team.......and at the moment, half a manager 😳

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by AndyClaret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:44 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:41 pm
Dan Burn? I've only listened, but thought he was their centre-back?
He played left wing back.
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Zlatan » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:47 pm

huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:25 pm
Game over so I'll say it now. It is time to rest Dwight. he's lost his mojo and needs time to find it. Adds nothing offensively or defensively this season.
Totally agree - lads got talent, but when we play well. When it’s poor, he feels the pressure and goes missing

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:48 pm

Zlatan wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:47 pm
Totally agree - lads got talent, but when we play well. When it’s poor, he feels the pressure and goes missing
He's been seriously overworked since he got into the team.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:50 pm

We’re not playing to Dwight’s strengths at the moment so he doesn’t deserve criticism for that.

He’s sill a far better option than Brady for me.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Colburn_Claret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:52 pm

A good point and clean sheet, great to have Mee back.

I feel sorry for Wood and Barnes, even the scraps are scrappy. Our service to them is poor, but I don't think keep playing the same team and tactics and sooner or later it will come right is a good strategy. We can't change the defence, and don't have the depth to change the midfield, so it has to be Wood and or Barnes need swapping.
Wood and Jay, or Wood and Vydra for me.
Ash needs a couple of U23 games, just to find the back of the net and get some confidence.

The only advantage we have on the rest of the dross around us, is our ability to keep a clean sheet, as long as we stay tight at the back we have a chance.

UTC

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Stayingup » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:52 pm

Garlick. Is he ashamed but his lust for the money overcomes this? Or what? Apart from 3 players we are a shell of last seasons team

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Andreshotboots » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:56 pm

My observations for what they are worth. Passion, willingness to take one for the team, putting their bodies on the line was back to the Burnley of old. Going forward though we offered nothing. We look a team frightened to lose at the minute rather than happy to take a risk to win, combine that with out most creative player being shut out every week, and not being in great form too, we are struggling to offer any threat. I think Barnes will have started his last game for a while, J Rod surely has to come back in now, as does JBG for me.The only real positive I'm taking is we will pick up results, we always will the way we fight, and other teams around us know that, and whilst we're not adrift not playing well, we're far from down..UTC.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by jackmiggins » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:57 pm

Big Dyche fan, but that’s enough for me.......realize that he’s limited with players, but WHAT WAS THAT? Wet tissue paper in midfield and attack ( and right full back).

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by tim_noone » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:59 pm

We missed Stephen's creative input TBF.
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by thelaughingclaret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:59 pm

I am going to be blunt, that was shocking.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Safron » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:18 pm

MT03ALG wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:30 pm
3 goals in 7 games. Start with Rodriguez and Vydra for a change, then Wood and Barnes later on if necessary....
Nobody will listen, but post covid our best partnership
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:39 pm

joey13 wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:24 pm
1 goal in 6 games
That's a lot considering how incisive we are!

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:48 pm

Twitter is going mental. The whole country seems to want us relegated.
They can't all have paid 15 quid can they?

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:54 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:48 pm
Twitter is going mental. The whole country seems to want us relegated.
They can't all have paid 15 quid can they?
I wouldn't take too much notice of Twatter, a platform for keyboard winkers.
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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by jrgbfc » Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:58 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 8:48 pm
Twitter is going mental. The whole country seems to want us relegated.
They can't all have paid 15 quid can they?
Tbf if you were a neutral would you want to watch us?

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by BabylonClaret » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:03 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 7:50 pm
We’re not playing to Dwight’s strengths at the moment so he doesn’t deserve criticism for that.

He’s sill a far better option than Brady for me.
Well he can't play on both sides so Brady has ro play on one of them.

It would help if he actually didn't keep drifting into the middle and adding to an already congested mess. If he'd been playing well and felt it was the only way he could come for the ball I would forgive him but Taylor did more offensively than Dwight

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:08 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:
Fri Nov 06, 2020 9:03 pm
Well he can't play on both sides so Brady has ro play on one of them.

It would help if he actually didn't keep drifting into the middle and adding to an already congested mess. If he'd been playing well and felt it was the only way he could come for the ball I would forgive him but Taylor did more offensively than Dwight
That has to be a tactical decision, not Dwight's, surely.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by Vino blanco » Fri Nov 06, 2020 10:24 pm

Just got back from the Underground bar in Benalmadena, after watching that performance. Awful, are we the only team in England who play without a midfield? Our tactics are so predictable and one-dimensional, pass it around at the back for a vey short while, then whack it aimlessly forward in the general direction of Wood. How Barnes gets on the pitch before Jayrod is beyond me. Let's be honest, Brighton played much better football than we did and could easily have won. Very frustrating times at the moment.

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Re: Brighton versus MIGHTY CLARETS

Post by scouseclaret » Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:10 am

I just don’t know what we were trying to achieve tonight - it certainly didn’t look like we were trying to win the game.

No energy, no pace, no movement, no creativity and no goal threat. McNeil is a pale shadow of the player he was last season and Brownhill might as well not have been on the pitch.

Yes there was some decent last ditch defending, but Brighton still had more than enough chances to Win the game and if they’d been any good they’d have murdered us.

A point gained after a dire performance, but an opportunity missed against a side who looked very vulnerable if we could have put them under any pressure at all

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