Match Day Thread - Man City v Burnley

exilecanada · Post by **exilecanada** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:51 pm

Thank God that's over with!

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:52 pm

At 5-0 I think we have been lucky, which says it all.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:52 pm

5-0 AGAIN

jojomk1 · Post by **jojomk1** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:52 pm

bfcjg wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:51 pm
ALK last seen disappearing towards the airport.

And Garlick sobbing uncontrollably in the stand shouting "that's my windfall gone"

Claretlad · Post by **Claretlad** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:52 pm

Benson has bedded in nicely....

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:53 pm

Always likely to get some mismatches on FA Cup day although it is usually actually in the FA Cup you get them and not in the Premier League

kritichris · Post by **kritichris** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:53 pm

Groundhog day.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:54 pm

Hopefully when the fixtures come out for next season it will already say “Manchester City 5 - 0 Burnley”, and we can have weekend free

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:54 pm

All over. Phew.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:54 pm

Lucky not to concede far more than 5.

bfcmartin · Post by **bfcmartin** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:56 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:53 pm
Always likely to get some mismatches on FA Cup day although it is usually actually in the FA Cup you get them and not in the Premier League

Yeah a bit like Liverpool letting 7 in at Villa

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:57 pm

jojomk1 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:51 pm
He's good in the changing room

Doubling as a physio? Or team talks? Hoping he’s good at both for £30k a week!!

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:57 pm

bfcmartin wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:56 pm
Yeah a bit like Liverpool letting 7 in at Villa

I might be wrong but I dont think that was FA Cup day

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:57 pm

Even madge waving 5 at us !!!

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:57 pm

scouseclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:44 pm
Hoping we’re going to give it a go this time rather than the usual timid surrender.

It’s the hope that kills you! Par for the course today we’ve been due a battering to be fair.

HB Claret · Post by **HB Claret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:58 pm

Hate City - Yes they are too bloody good for us but Jesus tackled Ben Mee on the shin with his studs ..... no card, Foden pulls Lowton back and complains that we get a free kick. The only good thing was that Benson looked to fit in well. We were never going to get anything out of today so onwards and hopefully upwards !

SussexDon1inIreland · Post by **SussexDon1inIreland** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:59 pm

Today was a free hit
Doesn’t matter
Well done Josh Benson

Move on to Everton match

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Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:59 pm

fidelcastro wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:50 pm
They've not needed to cheat!

They don't need to cheat against us..........but still do.
That's what rankles!

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:59 pm

City today were unplayable at times.they would have destroyed most teams today.
We move on,am certain that next game we will be ok..
Keep the faith lads.Benson has to keep the shirt after that performance.
up the Clarets

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:01 pm

Nil flatters us.

corporal jones · Post by **corporal jones** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:02 pm

Hibsclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:13 pm
I’m sure VAR is designed to sort that out...if it’s in the small clubs favour..really no excuse for that

var has a limited set of criteria it can get involved with-i thought everyone knew that-and throw ins are not on the list.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:03 pm

The Enclosure wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:59 pm
City today were unplayable at times.they would have destroyed most teams today.

Strange how they won't though. I'll bet none of our rivals capitulate in the same manner.

Blyclaret · Post by **Blyclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:09 pm

The mast 7 matches against City playing 442 ..... 30 1 the score line.
What way did we play today. Take a bow Mr Dyche.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:15 pm

I dare say that we would have been considerably tighter and defended better today had we had Stephens alongside Westwood and Benson rather than playing either McNeil or Barnes. (Not that that's saying a lot). At least Stephens usually puts a few heavy tackles in. We were lightweight and wide open today, as we always seem to be against City.

Sunny Cornwall · Post by **Sunny Cornwall** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:16 pm

A lot of silly comments on here about Stephens. One of our competitors best players for last few seasons. How about giving him time to settle in to how we play! We don't exactly play very similarly to any other Premier League teams. It's called supporting your team!

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:19 pm

Spijed wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:03 pm
Strange how they won't though. I'll bet none of our rivals capitulate in the same manner.

True this. Love Dyche, but he has not worked out a way to play against City at all. They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing time and again and expecting a different outcome.

For me, 5-4-1 is the way to play. Extra CH in the middle to allow Tarks/Mee to better support the full backs, then two deep central defenders meaning there is no ‘gap’ in behind. Then hope for a set piece.

Could go 3-5-2 or 4-5-1 though. Just anything but 4–4-2 and taking a battering.

Tarks’ mistake a big factor in today’s game. Not decisive, of course, but did lead to such a result.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:20 pm

Blyclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:09 pm
The mast 7 matches against City playing 442 ..... 30 1 the score line.
What way did we play today. Take a bow Mr Dyche.

Record against City since we returned to the Premier League

League games played

Goals for

Goals against

Conroysleftfoot · Post by **Conroysleftfoot** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:32 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:19 pm
True this. Love Dyche, but he has not worked out a way to play against City at all. They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing time and again and expecting a different outcome.

For me, 5-4-1 is the way to play. Extra CH in the middle to allow Tarks/Mee to better support the full backs, then two deep central defenders meaning there is no ‘gap’ in behind. Then hope for a set piece.

Could go 3-5-2 or 4-5-1 though. Just anything but 4–4-2 and taking a battering.

Tarks’ mistake a big factor in today’s game. Not decisive, of course, but did lead to such a result.

Must agree with this. Our players didn't look bothered, it was as if they knew they were playing the wrong system to have any chance of holding City.

SGr · Post by **SGr** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:33 pm

Manner of the goals will always wind me up but in general I couldn’t care less. This showing at the Etihad is so par for the course now I don’t even think it’ll impact the momentum we built from the Palace game. JBG benched was an early indicator that Dyche feels the same.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:37 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:59 pm
They don't need to cheat against us..........but still do.
That's what rankles!

Yes but why don't we cheat when they do?

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:39 pm

Nothing I wasn't expecting or braced for, but no matter how pragmatic I try to be I simply can't not fume over Tarky's garbage pass gifting them their early lead and the Keytsone Cops defending for the second. I also think Tarks gave the ball away needlessly for their fourth (or fifth?) and when you're playing against a team like City they really don't need a helping hand!! Annoying to say the least.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:12 pm

Poor team selection and tactics today. What bit of don't leave KDB free to run at you did SD not get. Taylor had no protection. Peiters should have started. Jay completely wasted stuck out wide. Should have played him as the single striker and packed midfield somehow.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:21 pm

Not saying anyone was any good but hard to say who was worst between Lowton and Taylor. Probably Taylor, he really did have a mare.

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:39 pm

We need some real powerhouses in midfield to assist the defenders. Couldn't imagine Barton and Marney giving their midfield as easy a time.

Wilf Mbanga · Post by **Wilf Mbanga** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:27 pm

Did anyone expect anything different? The disappointing thing for me is we didn’t leave anything on them. Sometimes you need to give them a bit of the rough stuff -especially early on. It was all a bit easy.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:13 pm

People always make excuses about the money. Most teams give City more of a game than we ever do, we just don't appear to turn up.

So we just look at how much they cost and say there's no point trying?

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:59 pm

The Enclosure wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:59 pm
City today were unplayable at times.they would have destroyed most teams today.
We move on,am certain that next game we will be ok..
Keep the faith lads.Benson has to keep the shirt after that performance.
up the Clarets

Disagree about City being unplayable today. I thought that was as poor as they've been against us for a while. They gave the ball away in their own half on a countless number of occasions but we didn't have the quick-thinking or creativity to capitalise on the mistakes. They took their goals really clinically, it seemed like every chance went in, but I didn't feel they were anywhere near as dominating as they have been in the past.

Jakubclaret · Post by **Jakubclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:23 pm

Even though we never laid a glove on them, city were far slicker & the gulf in quality showed we got off lightly really & sterling never even featured from the bench, if I had to criticise we looked sluggish & seemed to run out of gas far too early or maybe city were super fit, people saying we should have parked the bus chances are we would have still gone down 1 nil 2 nil & then pelters for setting up negatively & why didn't he go for it.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:34 pm

Rileybobs wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:59 pm
Disagree about City being unplayable today. I thought that was as poor as they've been against us for a while. They gave the ball away in their own half on a countless number of occasions but we didn't have the quick-thinking or creativity to capitalise on the mistakes. They took their goals really clinically, it seemed like every chance went in, but I didn't feel they were anywhere near as dominating as they have been in the past.

I kind of agree. Listening to Robbie Savage for example going on about City's amazing play and goals, I wanted him to say, but if Tarkowski had made that stupid pass after 4 minutes against any other team in the PL, the ball would still have ended up in the net. It was a gift. Same with the second goal and even the third goal was poor tracking back by a sleepy Jayrod. Plus Tarks actually played a rubbish pass which left us all over the place and led to either the 4th of 5th, cant remember which. City were't unplayable, we were simply appalling and they took full advantage.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:36 pm

corporal jones wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:02 pm
var has a limited set of criteria it can get involved with-i thought everyone knew that-and throw ins are not on the list.

Thank you...nobody likes a smart .... by the way! I’ll stick with my view that all goals should be checked by VAR..hence, the 2nd should be disallowed for that reason. It was a throw to one player who scored when the throw had been taken nearly 10 yards further up the pitch than where the ball went out. You could see some of our defenders looking towards where the ball went out. Absolute nonsense of a goal and one that would have been chalked out against a big club, of that I have no doubt

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:43 pm

Hibsclaret wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:36 pm
Thank you...nobody likes a smart .... by the way! I’ll stick with my view that all goals should be checked by VAR..hence, the 2nd should be disallowed for that reason. It was a throw to one player who scored when the throw had been taken nearly 10 yards further up the pitch than where the ball went out. You could see some of our defenders looking towards where the ball went out. Absolute nonsense of a goal and one that would have been chalked out against a big club, of that I have no doubt

Hibs has a point. Walker takes a fresh ball off the ball stand and throws it quickly from there, but that wasn't where the original ball went out and it wasn't picked up by the officials.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:47 pm

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:43 pm
Hibs has a point. Walker takes a fresh ball off the ball stand and throws it quickly from there, but that wasn't where the original ball went out and it wasn't picked up by the officials.

Thx. Would have been fine for a couple of yards but I reckon it was nearer 10. Joke tbh.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:50 pm

Not sure it excuses 3 of our players switching off though, but Walker definitely should have been brought back.

Hibsclaret · Post by **Hibsclaret** » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:53 pm

I agree that a few switched off absolutely but if you get a chance look at Ben who definitely looks towards where the ball went out. It was taken so far further up it took a couple by surprise for that reason and it only takes that split second tbh.

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:56 am

Park it and move on to the next game