WC 2022 qualifying draw
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WC 2022 qualifying draw
Takes place this evening, no doubt it'll be the usual long-winded affair, the seedings are as follows.
Pot 1: Belgium, France, England, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands.
Pot 2: Switzerland, Wales, Poland, Sweden, Austria, Ukraine, Serbia, Turkey, Slovakia, Romania.
Pot 3: Russia, Hungary, Republic of Ireland, Czech Republic, Norway, Northern Ireland, Iceland, Scotland, Greece, Finland.
Pot 4: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, Israel, Belarus, Georgia, Luxembourg.
Pot 5: Armenia, Cyprus, Faroe Islands, Azerbaijan, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Lithuania, Latvia, Andorra.
Pot 6: Malta, Moldova, Liechtenstein, Gibraltar, San Marino.
So yes there is the possibility of some all-British ties once again. and in theory all the top ranked nations should get a winnable group, but looking through those pots there exists the danger of a difficult group for the likes of England to negotiate.
And only the 10 group winners are guaranteed to qualify, The 10 group runners-up will go through to the play-offs, along with the two best Nations League group winners who do not finish in the top two of their World Cup qualifying group.
I hope somebody understands this process better than me, but essentially if you want to avoid the lottery of the play-offs you need to win your group,
Pot 1: Belgium, France, England, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Denmark, Germany, Netherlands.
Pot 2: Switzerland, Wales, Poland, Sweden, Austria, Ukraine, Serbia, Turkey, Slovakia, Romania.
Pot 3: Russia, Hungary, Republic of Ireland, Czech Republic, Norway, Northern Ireland, Iceland, Scotland, Greece, Finland.
Pot 4: Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Albania, Bulgaria, Israel, Belarus, Georgia, Luxembourg.
Pot 5: Armenia, Cyprus, Faroe Islands, Azerbaijan, Estonia, Kazakhstan, Kosovo, Lithuania, Latvia, Andorra.
Pot 6: Malta, Moldova, Liechtenstein, Gibraltar, San Marino.
So yes there is the possibility of some all-British ties once again. and in theory all the top ranked nations should get a winnable group, but looking through those pots there exists the danger of a difficult group for the likes of England to negotiate.
And only the 10 group winners are guaranteed to qualify, The 10 group runners-up will go through to the play-offs, along with the two best Nations League group winners who do not finish in the top two of their World Cup qualifying group.
I hope somebody understands this process better than me, but essentially if you want to avoid the lottery of the play-offs you need to win your group,
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Re: WC 2022 qualifying draw
Wales
Scotland
Luxembourg
Andorra
San Marino
You could rest the first 11 until the knockout stage
Scotland
Luxembourg
Andorra
San Marino
You could rest the first 11 until the knockout stage
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Re: WC 2022 qualifying draw
Could just as easily beclaretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:56 pmWales
Scotland
Luxembourg
Andorra
San Marino
You could rest the first 11 until the knockout stage
Switzerland
Russia
Bosnia
Cyprus
Malta
TBH it's about time England got a tough qualifying group, the pattern in recent tournaments has been cruising to the finals, and then flopping on the big stage, 2018 perhaps accepted and even then England blew a golden opportunity.
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Flopping? When?tiger76 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:10 pmCould just as easily be
Switzerland
Russia
Bosnia
Cyprus
Malta
TBH it's about time England got a tough qualifying group, the pattern in recent tournaments has been cruising to the finals, and then flopping on the big stage, 2018 perhaps accepted and even then England blew a golden opportunity.
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Re: WC 2022 qualifying draw
The 2016 exit to Iceland comes to mind, I'd consider that a flop.
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Re: WC 2022 qualifying draw
That was the Euros, not World Cup.Claretitus wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:18 pmThe 2016 exit to Iceland comes to mind, I'd consider that a flop.
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Fair enough I was referring to the major tournaments in general, England over the past 10 years have strolled through qualifying, but failed when the main event has come around, now whether that is purely down to an easy ride in qualifying is up for debate, but it surely can't help when you are racking up the goals against the also-rans, and not being truly tested, this is where the NL might prove helpful to England, at least in that format they are playing against decent opposition on a more regular basis, and over time that should enable them to become more battle-hardened in facing such quality, so when the big tournaments do roll around the jump in class shouldn't be as much of a culture shock.
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Yes of course that one. Not criticising you here. It generally gets boring when people say England “failed. When you actually look how they’ve gone out and against who over the past 20 years, there’s only the Iceland game that could be considered a failure.
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Re: WC 2022 qualifying draw
Poland again ! Hungary, Albania, San Marino and Andorra make up the rest of England's group ....
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I don’t think you could have chosen it much betterClarets4me wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:51 pmPoland again ! Hungary, Albania, San Marino and Andorra make up the rest of England's group ....
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If your being objective the only real failure, other than the Iceland debacle was Brazil 2014, to not even get out of the group has to be considered poor, albeit it was a group containing Italy and Uruguay, that was a pathetic effort. Most of the other occasions England have exited early, it's been on penalties, or too a team that's gone on to reach the latter stages, part of the problem is the immense expectation placed on every England team since 1966, but rightly or wrongly that won't change anytime soon.
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Re: WC 2022 qualifying draw
The full draw below.
Group A: Portugal, Serbia, Republic of Ireland, Luxembourg, Azerbaijan
Group B: Spain, Sweden, Greece, Georgia, Kosovo
Group C: Italy, Switzerland, Northern Ireland, Bulgaria, Lithuania
Group D: France, Ukraine, Finland, Bosnia, Kazakhstan
Group E: Belgium, Wales, Czech Republic, Belarus, Estonia
Group F: Denmark, Austria, Scotland, Israel, Faroe Islands, Moldova
Group G: Netherlands, Turkey, Norway, Montenegro, Latvia, Gibraltar
Group H: Croatia, Slovakia, Russia, Slovenia, Cyprus, Malta
Group I: England, Poland, Hungary, Albania, Andorra, San Marino
Group J: Germany, Romania, Iceland, North Macedonia, Armenia, Liechtenstein
England will be happy with that, the rest of the home nations less so. Although Poland with Lewandowski will be tricky.
Group A: Portugal, Serbia, Republic of Ireland, Luxembourg, Azerbaijan
Group B: Spain, Sweden, Greece, Georgia, Kosovo
Group C: Italy, Switzerland, Northern Ireland, Bulgaria, Lithuania
Group D: France, Ukraine, Finland, Bosnia, Kazakhstan
Group E: Belgium, Wales, Czech Republic, Belarus, Estonia
Group F: Denmark, Austria, Scotland, Israel, Faroe Islands, Moldova
Group G: Netherlands, Turkey, Norway, Montenegro, Latvia, Gibraltar
Group H: Croatia, Slovakia, Russia, Slovenia, Cyprus, Malta
Group I: England, Poland, Hungary, Albania, Andorra, San Marino
Group J: Germany, Romania, Iceland, North Macedonia, Armenia, Liechtenstein
England will be happy with that, the rest of the home nations less so. Although Poland with Lewandowski will be tricky.
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I think Scotland has been particularly fortunate.
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Does second place qualify
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Re: WC 2022 qualifying draw
That was the Euros, not World Cup.Claretitus wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:18 pmThe 2016 exit to Iceland comes to mind, I'd consider that a flop.
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Still a flop though
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Second place goes into a playoff I think.
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Happy as i can be with Ireland group , love if i can get to Azerbaijan
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Belgium, Czech Republic and no cup cake from pot 6. Same sort of draw as usual for Wales. The only blessing is that Belgium won't want us in their group given their record against us with their super team.
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Re: WC 2022 qualifying draw
In 2010, we drew with Algeria and the US and in 2014, we finished bottom of the group after drawing with Costa Rica.
2018 has been the exception to the rule.
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Some good away trips for the England fans at least with Poland and Hungary. We've played Poland loads but barely played Hungary over the last 20 or 30 years. Fancy new stadium in Budapest as well.