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Dwight McNeil

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:49 pm

Has come in for a lot of stuck lately. Some warranted others not. But tonight that first half he’s been first class. Particularly carrying the ball through the centre and running direct.

Looks confident.
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by cockneyclaret » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:51 pm

Shame we don't have another player that can do that

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Steddyman » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:56 pm

Shame he has no end result and doesn't make the intelligent decisions when it matters.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by 4:20 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:59 pm

Has had his Weetabix today.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by ClaretAL » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:00 pm

Yep on fire first half. The 3 on 3 brady should have gone to the left to pull the defender

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:02 pm

Technically they’re all over us so it’s nice to see him stretch his legs, read an interview this week from Dyche and it made me realise I’m being far to critical of Him
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:31 pm

Second half quietened off.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:32 pm

Not saying he’s the same standard as grealish (yet) but I’d definitely like to see him play the same role.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by BOYSIE31 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:35 pm

**** second half and walking when losing ball

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:37 pm

Can argue all you like Popes kicking has been abysmal tonight, it just puts us straight under pressure

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by TsarBomba » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:54 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:49 pm
Has come in for a lot of stuck lately. Some warranted others not. But tonight that first half he’s been first class. Particularly carrying the ball through the centre and running direct.

Looks confident.
Our only genuine threat.

He’s suffering because he has nobody out on the right to share the workload.

We’re incredibly fortunate there are 3/4 really bad teams down there with us, because we’re absolutely cr@p going forward.
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by MACCA » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:56 pm

Decent 1st half, poor 2nd, some woeful crossing and wasted chances

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by TsarBomba » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:56 pm

BOYSIE31 wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:35 pm
**** second half and walking when losing ball
Name me any other Premier League club that asks, or has ever asked, a 20 year old inexperienced kid to carry their teams entire threat going forward.

It’s a ******* farce, and it’s not McNeils fault in the slightest.
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by joey13 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:57 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:56 pm
Name me any other Premier League club that asks, or has ever asked, a 20 year old inexperienced kid to carry their teams entire threat going forward.

It’s a ******* farce, and it’s not McNeils fault in the slightest.
He’s 21

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by TsarBomba » Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:59 pm

joey13 wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:57 pm
He’s 21
I stand corrected. He turned 21 a month ago.

The point still stands.

:roll:

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by bobinho » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:00 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:37 pm
Can argue all you like Popes kicking has been abysmal tonight, it just puts us straight under pressure
You could argue that to retain possession we end up giving it to Pope for the big launch and that becomes 70-30 in their favour as they are facing the incoming ball.

I’d rather our outfield players attempted a forward pass as there’s a better chance of retaining possession this way as opposed to the big lump forward. Our manager doesn’t, so I suppose that’s fair enough.
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by bobinho » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:01 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:56 pm
Name me any other Premier League club that asks, or has ever asked, a 20 year old inexperienced kid to carry their teams entire threat going forward.

It’s a ******* farce, and it’s not McNeils fault in the slightest.
Everton. Wayne Rooney. Sorry... he was 17. ;)
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by joey13 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:02 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 7:59 pm
I stand corrected. He turned 21 a month ago.

The point still stands.

:roll:
He’s not a kid though

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by superdimitri » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:06 pm

Why another thread? You can search existing threads you know.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by cricketfieldclarets » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:07 pm

bobinho wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:01 pm
Everton. Wayne Rooney. Sorry... he was 17. ;)
Probably England’s best ever player. There’s a difference.
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Rileybobs » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:11 pm

Very good first half but unfortunately didn’t great that moment of magic. Second half Smith clearly put a plan in place to nullify him, and it worked. As a result it fit create a number of occasions where Brady was in a lot of space on the right but, despite having a decent game also failed to affect proceedings.

The real positive for me is that our defence is now where we’re used to it being. Creativity is a major issue and one which we should be addressing in January.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Burnley1989 » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:18 pm

bobinho wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:00 pm
You could argue that to retain possession we end up giving it to Pope for the big launch and that becomes 70-30 in their favour as they are facing the incoming ball.

I’d rather our outfield players attempted a forward pass as there’s a better chance of retaining possession this way as opposed to the big lump forward. Our manager doesn’t, so I suppose that’s fair enough.
:x Ok mate... ok... go and find me half a dozen mates that agree.

I think he’s a great goal keeper but his kicking is probably as bad as anyone I’ve seen in the division, rough with the smooth

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by beddie » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:39 pm

I didn't see the game but I'm glad Dwight did well in the first half. He's a young man learning his trade and will imo only get better. Im sure with a bit more quality in the team we'll see him flourish.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:41 pm

if you are relying on one person for creativity it's an opposition managers dream
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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by bobinho » Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:47 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:07 pm
Probably England’s best ever player. There’s a difference.
Top ten for sure...

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by TheOriginalLongsider » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:43 pm

Great in first half but sometimes keeps ball too long. He seemed knackered in 2nd half and made mistakes. His crossing is excellent. Manages to get really good balls into the box even when under pressure

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Targetman » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:53 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:41 pm
if you are relying on one person for creativity it's an opposition managers dream
Jack Grealish for Villa??

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:19 pm

Targetman wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:53 pm
Jack Grealish for Villa??
Grealish
Traore
El Ghazi
Barkley
McGinn

that's without even giving it any thought

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Rowls » Fri Dec 18, 2020 12:15 am

Played very well tonight but especially first half.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by Rouwens_Weapon » Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:38 am

When you compare McNeil to Grealish when he was Dwight's age, there is no comparison as to who is the more valuable player.

In the next 4 years, when Dwight is the same age as Grealish is now, I would expect him to be at a similar level at a bigger club than us.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:09 am

1st half very good especially when you consider Dyche has coached that out of him (apparently)

2nd half like the rest of the side going forward off the pace.

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Re: Dwight McNeil

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:18 am

bobinho wrote:
Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:00 pm
You could argue that to retain possession we end up giving it to Pope for the big launch and that becomes 70-30 in their favour as they are facing the incoming ball.

I’d rather our outfield players attempted a forward pass as there’s a better chance of retaining possession this way as opposed to the big lump forward. Our manager doesn’t, so I suppose that’s fair enough.
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