Burnley v Wolves - Matchday Thread

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:45 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:42 pm
With no disrespect but what has Jay offered?

Jay hasn't been great but he's still offered us far more than Barnes has. The assist for the winner against Palace for one.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:45 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:41 pm
My thinking is to get safe and then try something different. We know what it takes to keep us up - we just know it.

Come on, Frank, you know better than that by now surely. Try something different? Not a chance in hell.

No denying that the Barnes/ Wood axis was successful in keeping us up 2 years ago. But it was very unsuccessful in the first part of last season. Barnes was carrying an injury and was dire. We massively improved when Rodriguez came in and we started to play a bit.

We'll see what this evening brings in terms of a result. We know what it will bring in terms of the football.

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:46 pm

Hope Barnes has a belter

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:46 pm

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:44 pm
Totally agree that 2 keepers on the bench is daft UNLESS Pope isn't 100%, but otherwise a youngster there would have made far more sense.

I've no idea about this but are the different squads still in bubbles? is it possible that Vydra has reported ill or injured and we'd no one else?

IWOODLOVETT · Post by **IWOODLOVETT** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:47 pm

Barnes for Rodriguez could be a good, subtle move. A battering ram for 60 minutes followed by 30 minutes of Jay’s more subtle skills to kill off the game.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:47 pm

There's one poster who created a thread about how good Wood and Barnes were. And bumped it up after most games.

My point being - they know how to play together.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:47 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:45 pm
We always go long when those two are playing together

We go long regardless of who we play - just think Barnes deserves some credit for something more than his aerial ability - which isn’t actually what he’s good at

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:47 pm

Safron wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:42 pm
Hope traore is on the bench

Your hope is correct he's among their subs.

Nuno has rung the changes, which is rare for him.

exilecanada · Post by **exilecanada** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:48 pm

A dull day here in SW Ontario, 2 degrees and overcast, no snow in the forecast. Looks like the whole Province is going into lockdown on Dec 24th, could be a long winter

As far as todays game is concerned, I have a good feeling about the outcome, 2-1 Clarets.

Dark Cloud · Post by **Dark Cloud** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:46 pm
I've no idea about this but are the different squads still in bubbles? is it possible that Vydra has reported ill or injured and we'd no one else?

Never thought of that.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:48 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:47 pm
We go long regardless of who we play - just think Barnes deserves some credit for something more than his aerial ability - which isn’t actually what he’s good at

He's fast becoming the new target on here since Hendrick left

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:49 pm

Dark Cloud wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:48 pm
Never thought of that.

It was just a thought

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:49 pm

Chris Boden reckons Vydra is injured but not confirmed.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:50 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:48 pm
He's fast becoming the new target on here since Hendrick left

Only days since Lowton was referred to as the new target. Whatever this new target is, it appears to be a moving one.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:51 pm

simonclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:49 pm
Chris Boden reckons Vydra is injured but not confirmed.

Dyche spoke very highly of Barnes & Vydra last week and said both were getting close to starts (although I'm not sure I'd agree with that bit).

If he has dropped out late in the day it might be we couldn't get one of the young players into the squad because of restrictions and time limits etc.

burnleymik · Post by **burnleymik** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:52 pm

Wood and Barnes. Neither firing and I fear makes us very one dimensional in style. Not confident here, but COYC!

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:52 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:50 pm
Only days since Lowton was referred to as the new target. Whatever this new target is, it appears to be a moving one.

Barnes hasn't been in the team to target

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:52 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:45 pm
Come on, Frank, you know better than that by now surely. Try something different? Not a chance in hell.

No denying that the Barnes/ Wood axis was successful in keeping us up 2 years ago. But it was very unsuccessful in the first part of last season. Barnes was carrying an injury and was dire. We massively improved when Rodriguez came in and we started to play a bit.

We'll see what this evening brings in terms of a result. We know what it will bring in terms of the football.

Sorry, only just seen this. Vydra injured and Jay subbed.

Direct to Wood and Barnes - we know how good they are together.

Safron · Post by **Safron** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:54 pm

simonclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:49 pm
Chris Boden reckons Vydra is injured but not confirmed.

Must be injured or it would be complete bonkers to drop him completely with our squad depth

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:54 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:50 pm
Only days since Lowton was referred to as the new target. Whatever this new target is, it appears to be a moving one.

You aren’t allowed to say anything negative about a footballers performance on here anymore it’s gone absolutely bizarre.

MDWat · Post by **MDWat** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:55 pm

Not sure there are targets, more just people giving a view on what they see. Be a bit boring if everyone agreed on everything.

Jay Rod hasn’t done anything since he came in. It’s clearly not worked in an attacking sense.

Barnes has been pretty dreadful since he returned from injury but he’s probably not been as sharp as he could be. Maybe the manager thinks he is now.

I’ve called changes like this before as not being right and Dyche ends up proving me wrong time after time so instead I’ll go with it and back the change.

Shame Vydra isn’t available. Come on Burnley.

jurek · Post by **jurek** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:55 pm

Surprised Barnes is starting but let's hope he and Wood have a good game.
And our wide men too.
We need a good performance today from all the team
and hopefully a win too.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:57 pm

4:20 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:39 pm
Would Dyche have let Vydra go home to see his family?

If he has, you have to wonder when he’ll be able to get back?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:58 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:54 pm
You aren’t allowed to say anything negative about a footballers performance on here anymore it’s gone absolutely bizarre.

Was just thinking the same thing. If Barnes has only just come back in and nobody has mentioned him for a bit, how can he be a new "target"? Because of a few posts on this thread?

As you say, bizarre.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:58 pm

Somethingfishy wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:38 pm
Two keepers again? Why? Why not give a place on the bench to a youngster? Thompson got on at City and with Vydra missing it would have been a natural replacement. Dyche does himself no favours at times.

Nine (9) subs. So, looks like we are covering the risk of Nick Pope getting a bump early in the game.

UTC

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:58 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:57 pm
If he has, you have to wonder when he’ll be able to get back?

21.30?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:59 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:52 pm
Barnes hasn't been in the team to target

Lowton owes him a few pints, then. Unless, of course, targets can co-exist?

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:59 pm

Pathetic from Dyche tonight.

Why spend money on an Academy and put two keepers on the bench? Even if you have no intention of playing the kid, two keepers is a **** take.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:59 pm

Wolves will play 5 across the middle, we will go over them and need someone to hold the ball up and win free-kicks - only Barnes can do that for us tbh, that's why he is in tonight

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:02 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:59 pm
Pathetic from Dyche tonight.

Why spend money on an Academy and put two keepers on the bench? Even if you have no intention of playing the kid, two keepers is a **** take.

And what if there was no option because of restrictions? Might be worth checking things out before suggesting our manager is pathetic.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:02 pm

Let’s hear it for Dwight -
He will be playing in his 71st consecutive Premier League match for Burnley, surpassing Ben Mee's record for the club.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:02 pm

FactualFrank wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:36 pm
No surprise really.

Dyche would actually prefer to have two goalkeepers on the bench than a pacy striker. Says it all really.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:03 pm

Steddyman wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:02 pm
Dyche would actually prefer to have two goalkeepers on the bench than a pacy striker. Says it all really.

Which pacy striker?

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:03 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:02 pm
Let’s hear it for Dwight -
He will be playing in his 71st consecutive Premier League match for Burnley, surpassing Ben Mee's record for the club.

Crikey, that is some record for such a young man. Amazing.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:05 pm

ksrclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:03 pm
Crikey, that is some record for such a young man. Amazing.

Got its own thread - all but two are starts
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=51802

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:06 pm

Vydra will be injured. Dyche has chosen Barnes and Wood because Wolves like to play 5 at the back. I understand why he's done it. I completely disagree with it mind...

Tribesmen · Post by **Tribesmen** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:07 pm

Afternoon all from what is soft day here in Galway , hey the rain has stopped so that's something .

Not sure about tonight myself as i think both sides to cancel each other out as i don't expect any goals , hey hope i am wrong would love to see the Clarets win tonight .

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:02 pm
And what if there was no option because of restrictions? Might be worth checking things out before suggesting our manager is pathetic.

Go on then, what restrictions?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:10 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:09 pm
Go on then, what restrictions?

I posted it earlier but if someone has dropped out at the last minute it is quite possible that we can't get anyone in. We are only allowed a set number of players into the ground for a game.

Steddyman · Post by **Steddyman** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:03 pm
Which pacy striker?

Our only pacy striker.

derryclaret · Post by **derryclaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:14 pm

Evening all, cold evening here, frost setting in, think we'll get all three points tonight.UTC

AlargeClaret · Post by **AlargeClaret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:14 pm

Awful awful side we’ve got out though best not to dwell on it, as we can only play the hand we’re dealt.It’s obvious why he’s chosen Barnes with their packed out defence and hope has to spring eternal

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:16 pm

Everybody’s glass is half empty tonight, I feel quite optimistic over this game

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:17 pm

Mrpotatohead wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:41 pm
Barnes, who has offered nothing in recent games, in for Rodriguez.

Neither has Rodriguez, who doesn't put himself about enough for me

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:17 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:59 pm
Pathetic from Dyche tonight.

Why spend money on an Academy and put two keepers on the bench? Even if you have no intention of playing the kid, two keepers is a **** take.

He is sending a message to the board to get on with this take over. He doesn't want to see a 120 page takeover saga thread on this message board.

icu81b4 · Post by **icu81b4** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:19 pm

Evening all from the Coconut Coast, COME ON YOU CLARETS

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:19 pm

Bigvince wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:16 pm
Everybody’s glass is half empty tonight, I feel quite optimistic over this game

I'm optimistic as well, IDK if it's just the situation, or the time of the year that's making folks downbeat, but there does appear to be a lot of glass half empty posters tonight.

3 points would be a big fillip, so let's hope the Clarets can deliver them.

arise_sir_charge · Post by **arise_sir_charge** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:20 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:10 pm
I posted it earlier but if someone has dropped out at the last minute it is quite possible that we can't get anyone in. We are only allowed a set number of players into the ground for a game.

So you don't know then, just thinking that there may be some form of excuse? If that is the case, he needs to say because on the face of it, it looks very poor.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:23 pm

Steddyman wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:13 pm
Our only pacy striker.

He’s injured

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:25 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote: ↑
Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:20 pm
So you don't know then, just thinking that there may be some form of excuse? If that is the case, he needs to say because on the face of it, it looks very poor.

No I don’t know but I do think the manager is professional enough to put out the strongest bench he can.