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He was in the stands not on the bench where I would expect the kit man to be.
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Eddie Lee is a human computer when it comes to facts and figuresClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:11 pmI've got to know Andy Jones (The Athletic) well over the past year but I also know Chris Boden well and have done for years. Sadly it is a clickbait company and that's what our local newspapers have become sadly. The Burnley Express has been a brilliant resource for me over the years and I go back all the way to Keith McNee in the 1960s through Peter Higgs, Granville Shackleton, Edward Lee and Chris, all of them very helpful to me.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
I remember something he said to me a few years ago. The club had announced that Robbie Blake had scored his 50th league goal but my records suggested he was still on 49. Edward agreed with me.Nonayforever wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 10:23 pmEddie Lee is a human computer when it comes to facts and figures
He said that we had a duty to get the facts right, otherwise incorrect facts become correct.
He had one from York on Boxing Day 1998. One of our goals remains incorrectly credited to Andy Payton but was scored by Gordon Armstrong. Mine was in 2002 and a Kevin Ball goal against Gillingham going to Ian Moore. The incorrect info is now in the record books and presumed correct.
We are both very similar in terms of facts & figures. He’s a good bloke, a great help to me. Not seen him in ages.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Kit Man is a pretty American-sounding name, could he be involved with the takeover?
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
I thought it might be Farnell
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Imagine not recognising Clive Holt
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Ghost fo Christmas past?
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Latest from Simon Evans on Twitter in the last 5 mins......
Burnley takeover latest: the American investors and the club are working through the holiday period to conclude the remaining steps. ALK confident that takeover can be completed in time for the January transfer window.
Burnley takeover latest: the American investors and the club are working through the holiday period to conclude the remaining steps. ALK confident that takeover can be completed in time for the January transfer window.
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Not Biggles then?
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Hopefully in time for the window opening...Jakubs Tash wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:39 amLatest from Simon Evans on Twitter in the last 5 mins......
Burnley takeover latest: the American investors and the club are working through the holiday period to conclude the remaining steps. ALK confident that takeover can be completed in time for the January transfer window.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Simon on Twitter,
I understand ALK are still pushing for a meeting with Seaan Dyche to discuss jan transfer targets and plans,Club owners have not allowed this yet.
I understand ALK are still pushing for a meeting with Seaan Dyche to discuss jan transfer targets and plans,Club owners have not allowed this yet.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Just seen that. 'Interesting', that they won't allow it.Stevie2112 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:56 pmSimon on Twitter,
I understand ALK are still pushing for a meeting with Seaan Dyche to discuss jan transfer targets and plans,Club owners have not allowed this yet.
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Shocking, if true.Stevie2112 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:56 pmSimon on Twitter,
I understand ALK are still pushing for a meeting with Seaan Dyche to discuss jan transfer targets and plans,Club owners have not allowed this yet.
There reaches a point in these things where you have to start succession planning and allowing these discussions to take place. Either it’s not as close as we think or the club are being unreasonable. If we’re left unprepared due to this, the blame still lies with Garlick & co.
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Dyche has always said give me a budget so I know which pond I'm fishing in, rather than give me a whacking £100m war chest. if I was a betting man, I would bet he knows what that budget is already.
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Oh dear....Stevie2112 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:56 pmSimon on Twitter,
I understand ALK are still pushing for a meeting with Seaan Dyche to discuss jan transfer targets and plans,Club owners have not allowed this yet.
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At least he knows what he has to spend should Garlick remain in charge...
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Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
We'll know if things are going to be different after the takeover, if we sign someone before the last ten minutes of the window.
Quite honestly though, I don't know what's taking so long. The takeover doesn't even seem to have got FA approval yet.
Quite honestly though, I don't know what's taking so long. The takeover doesn't even seem to have got FA approval yet.
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That will be bang on given the sourceStevie2112 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:56 pmSimon on Twitter,
I understand ALK are still pushing for a meeting with Seaan Dyche to discuss jan transfer targets and plans,Club owners have not allowed this yet.
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It doesn’t need approval from the FA. From what I believe it has been approved in principle by the Premier League and is just awaiting final paper work for it to be signed off.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:30 pmQuite honestly though, I don't know what's taking so long. The takeover doesn't even seem to have got FA approval yet.
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I suppose it’s a bit like selling your house. You’ve agreed a price, it’s with the solicitors but do you let the buyers in to measure up for curtains?NewClaret wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:06 pmShocking, if true.
There reaches a point in these things where you have to start succession planning and allowing these discussions to take place. Either it’s not as close as we think or the club are being unreasonable. If we’re left unprepared due to this, the blame still lies with Garlick & co.
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Mike wouldn't be Mike if he wasn't buggering up another transfer window.
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I think you try and help the new buyers as best you can. You want to maintain goodwill and ultimately you want the deal done.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:36 pmI suppose it’s a bit like selling your house. You’ve agreed a price, it’s with the solicitors but do you let the buyers in to measure up for curtains?
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Probably just being awkward and digging his heels in. He has fallen out with SD so he is hardly going to be doing him any favours to make his job easier.
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That’s how I would do it and I’d like to think that’s how I’d be treated if I was moving house. I know this is a lot bigger transaction involving far more people but you would like to think that one of the key members of staff would get the potential support he needs, particularly just ahead of a window.randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:41 pmI think you try and help the new buyers as best you can. You want to maintain goodwill and ultimately you want the deal done.
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Quite honestly, I have no idea who is in charge of football these days Tony. PL, FA or Mickey Mouse. Quite honestly it's a farce these days, just like the laws of the game and VAR. Time we went back to how the rules worked in the 60s or 70s. Everyone knew the laws of the game and who was in charge of them.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:34 pmIt doesn’t need approval from the FA. From what I believe it has been approved in principle by the Premier League and is just awaiting final paper work for it to be signed off.
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Making his job easier benefits the company.gandhisflipflop wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:42 pmProbably just being awkward and digging his heels in. He has fallen out with SD so he is hardly going to be doing him any favours to make his job easier.
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It’s pretty simple with ownership, it’s the league you play in. The FA govern the whole game but the Premier League have to ensure their clubs are fit and proper. Their owners & directors test has become very thorough.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:43 pmQuite honestly, I have no idea who is in charge of football these days Tony. PL, FA or Mickey Mouse. Quite honestly it's a farce these days, just like the laws of the game and VAR. Time we went back to the 60s or 70s. Everyone knew the laws of the game and who was in charge of them.
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Absolutely I would Tony. It’s common courtesy, especially when a buyer is willing to give you £200m for an asset you clearly want to sell.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:36 pmI suppose it’s a bit like selling your house. You’ve agreed a price, it’s with the solicitors but do you let the buyers in to measure up for curtains?
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So what's the situation if a club gets relegated from, or promoted to, the PL. Does the club then have go through the procedure again? I guess they just accept what the other league has said, but it was a lot easier all round when the FA and Football League were in charge. The laws of the game were certainly a lot easier to understand.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:46 pmIt’s pretty simple with ownership, it’s the league you play in. The FA govern the whole game but the Premier League have to ensure their clubs are fit and proper. Their owners & directors test has become very thorough.
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That’s been one of the problems. The Football League are not as thorough but if a Championship club changed ownership and were cleared by the league and then won promotion to the Premier League they would be ok, just as our directors were when we won promotion. In effect the Premier League have to let them in.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:52 pmSo what's the situation if a club gets relegated from, or promoted to, the PL. Does the club then have go through the procedure again? I guess they just accept what the other league has said, but it was a lot easier all round when the FA and Football League were in charge. The laws of the game were certainly a lot easier to understand.
The differences were shown last time Hull were in the Premier League. Potential new owners failed the test but they then went and bought Reading as they got through the Football League test.
I think the Premier League have learned a lot on this and I’d trust them not to let in new owners if they weren’t suitable.
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Thanks for the responses but my biggest gripe is the laws of the game and their modern interpretations. The law was crystal clear before TV, FIFA and the PL got involved with them.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:58 pmThat’s been one of the problems. The Football League are not as thorough but if a Championship club changed ownership and were cleared by the league and then won promotion to the Premier League they would be ok, just as our directors were when we won promotion. In effect the Premier League have to let them in.
The differences were shown last time Hull were in the Premier League. Potential new owners failed the test but they then went and bought Reading as they got through the Football League test.
I think the Premier League have learned a lot on this and I’d trust them not to let in new owners if they weren’t suitable.
Anyway, this is going 'Off topic' so I'll leave it there.
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The PL don’t get involved with the laws. All down to IFAB. Law changes affect the game world wide. As for interpretation, I do think PGMOL have a lot to answer for, particularly with VAR although their hands are tied with the nonsensical armpit offsides.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:05 pmThanks for the responses but my biggest gripe is the laws of the game and their modern interpretations. The law was crystal clear before TV, FIFA and the PL got involved with them.
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Well IFAB have been around for more than 100 years without creating problems, so I think they must have been infiltrated by TV and the PL in recent years. Otherwise, why change things that have worked so well, for so long? It doesn't make sense.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:08 pmThe PL don’t get involved with the laws. All down to IFAB. Law changes affect the game world wide. As for interpretation, I do think PGMOL have a lot to answer for, particularly with VAR although their hands are tied with the nonsensical armpit offsides.
We all know that TV loves controversy in the game and had been lobbying for technology for years before VAR was introduced. Maybe they got someone on the IFAB board? As for the PL, well maybe they don't want their Prima Donnas to get hurt, so they have lobbied to make it a no contact sport? Blimey, there's more contact in Basketball these days, and that's supposed to be a no contact game.
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Could well be related to Our take over, A Executive Jet a Gulfstream 450 is due in Manchester Airport at 0812 (Tuesday) from Teterbro (Executive Airport in New Jersey, New York) were ALK Capital are based , Can be tracked on the app Flightradar24 N425QS operated by Net Jets (The Uber of the skys).
Like I say it could not be related to Burnley FC, but the timings with the take over seem to be a coincidence.
Like I say it could not be related to Burnley FC, but the timings with the take over seem to be a coincidence.
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I have heard that Kamil Grosicki is booked on too.
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Outstanding detective skills!!yatesybase wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:26 pmCould well be related to Our take over, A Executive Jet a Gulfstream 450 is due in Manchester Airport at 0812 (Tuesday) from Tetterborough (Executive Airport in New Jersey, New York) were ALK Capital are based , Can be tracked on the app Flightradar24 N450QS operated by Net Jets (The Uber of the skys).
Like I say it could not be related to Burnley FC, but the timings with the take over seem to be a coincidence.
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IFAB has very definitely not been around that long and they don't have involvement from TV or the PL.Gordaleman wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:17 pmWell IFAB have been around for more than 100 years without creating problems, so I think they must have been infiltrated by TV and the PL in recent years. Otherwise, why change things that have worked so well, for so long? It doesn't make sense.
We all know that TV loves controversy in the game and had been lobbying for technology for years before VAR was introduced. Maybe they got someone on the IFAB board? As for the PL, well maybe they don't want their Prima Donnas to get hurt, so they have lobbied to make it a no contact sport? Blimey, there's more contact in Basketball these days, and that's supposed to be a no contact game.
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I think it might be coincidence but maybe there could be American visitors for a game at the Turf some time very soon.yatesybase wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:26 pmCould well be related to Our take over, A Executive Jet a Gulfstream 450 is due in Manchester Airport at 0812 (Tuesday) from Tetterborough (Executive Airport in New Jersey, New York) were ALK Capital are based , Can be tracked on the app Flightradar24 N450QS operated by Net Jets (The Uber of the skys).
Like I say it could not be related to Burnley FC, but the timings with the take over seem to be a coincidence.
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Clive Holt look alikes?ClaretTony wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:49 pmI think it might be coincidence but maybe there could be American visitors for a game at the Turf some time very soon.
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IFAB have been around since 1886
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I stand corrected