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Steve Bruce
Been sacked apparently
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Dyche to Newcastle.
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Do you think Big Sam will jump ship at West Brom and go to Newcastle?
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I’d be surprised if they’ve sacked him. Who else would they get in, Eddie Howe?
They’d be in even more of a relegation fight if they did.
They’d be in even more of a relegation fight if they did.
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And you have gleaned this from your m8 with a box at St James park possibly
Sweeping statement with no proof...
Nowt on twitter
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Stop talking nonsense pal
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Being reported in the Marbella Gazette so anyone who goes there on imaginary holidays are bound to have good contacts
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I can't see Ashley sacking Bruce it would be expensive and pointless. Bruce will keep Newcastle up and that's all Ashley wants is to stay in the Premier league
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I forgot about thatDevils_Advocate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 5:07 pmBeing reported in the Marbella Gazette so anyone who goes there on imaginary holidays are bound to have good contacts
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Bruce gone
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Its missed off my question mark
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I believe it’s the case. Strange sacking. Even more strange than the appointment. He’s not done too bad.
Howe would be an excellent shout. But it just seems cursed that club.
Howe would be an excellent shout. But it just seems cursed that club.
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We need Howe to go to Palace so Sean doesn’t go there!
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Ridiculous if true. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole if I was Howe. The only possible reason would be a desire for a different style of play. But they haven't really got the players for it. They'd get ripped to pieces.
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If he’s gone there’s money to be made. You can still get 8/1 on him being the next Premier League manager to go.
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Hes done his time...
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I'm sure if he had gone, the bookies would have surely found out long before somebody on here.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:20 pmIf he’s gone there’s money to be made. You can still get 8/1 on him being the next Premier League manager to go.
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So is it reyt or not? Can't see anything online.
Just match reports.
Just match reports.
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Nothing has been announced. But it never ceases to amaze me how some people believe anything that they see on Twitter. Usually the same gullible ones who fall for covid-hoax propaganda.ElectroClaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:24 pmSo is it reyt or not? Can't see anything online.
Just match reports.
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Is Pardew doing anything?
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Can only see BS involved here not BFS.Conroysleftfoot wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 4:52 pmDo you think Big Sam will jump ship at West Brom and go to Newcastle?
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Nowt on BBC Sport as yet.
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Just seen him being interveiwed on ssn, only mentioned not buying in transfer market.
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Fake news, but he’s walking a tightrope & Sheffield united will win 1 eventually that’ll signal the end if they was to lose i think.
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Frank Lampard will probably beat him to it.ClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:20 pmIf he’s gone there’s money to be made. You can still get 8/1 on him being the next Premier League manager to go.
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curbishley to replace him no doubt, and lansbury his first signing
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More cahnce of Sean going next, according to the bookiesClaretTony wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:20 pmIf he’s gone there’s money to be made. You can still get 8/1 on him being the next Premier League manager to go.
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Maybe he wants discount at Sportsdirect. Fantastic opportunity for the man who can walk on water.... anyone else will not be good enough to be given time to fix it.RalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:00 pmSean is going nowhere. He's just got new owners who have promised some cash. He has made Burnley "his". Why move to Palace or Newcastle? Lunacy !
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Ah! that's their next game is it, well if he can't get a result against the whipping boys he really will be lucky to survive, it's not just the results it's the style of football they're playing that is making the Magpies fans unhappy, yes I know we play a similar style, but we haven't got 2 strikers worth a combined £60m, this is what is frustrating the Newcastle fans, even against some of the smaller sides Bruce adopts a defensive approach, you can understand it to some extent playing City & Liverpool, but not against Leicester as good as Leicester can be on the break, you have to have a go at home surely. 5 PL games without a win now, and dumped out of the EFL Cup by Brentford, if he doesn't turn it around soon the sack awaits I'm afraid.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 6:54 pmFake news, but he’s walking a tightrope & Sheffield united will win 1 eventually that’ll signal the end if they was to lose i think.
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I wonder about SD though. His stock is as high as its ever going to get right now. What if ALK gives him money and he doesn’t spend it well? What if ALK want to push academy players too early and he doesn’t want it? Right now he’s in a good position, he could take his bonus, have time with his family, and sit and wait for the perfect opportunity.RalphCoatesComb wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:00 pmSean is going nowhere. He's just got new owners who have promised some cash. He has made Burnley "his". Why move to Palace or Newcastle? Lunacy !
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I think the geordies really took to Rafa so he was always going to be a hard act to follow & bruces Sunderland connections I don’t think are endearing, being the biggest club in the northeast (my opinion) skirting with relegation season after season is underwhelming for them, really they should be trying to break into the top 4 a top 6/8 side somewhere around Everton, I know football doesn’t work out that way but that’s how some of their fans will view things.tiger76 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:08 pmAh! that's their next game is it, well if he can't get a result against the whipping boys he really will be lucky to survive, it's not just the results it's the style of football they're playing that is making the Magpies fans unhappy, yes I know we play a similar style, but we haven't got 2 strikers worth a combined £60m, this is what is frustrating the Newcastle fans, even against some of the smaller sides Bruce adopts a defensive approach, you can understand it to some extent playing City & Liverpool, but not against Leicester as good as Leicester can be on the break, you have to have a go at home surely. 5 PL games without a win now, and dumped out of the EFL Cup by Brentford, if he doesn't turn it around soon the sack awaits I'm afraid.
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I disagree re SD Charlie. I think with no takeover he was already getting his bags packed and waiting for the right opportunity to walk, probably in the summer, as he believed he'd gone as far as he could with us, but I imagine he's feeling rejuvenated and somewhat excited at the prospect of having a little bit of a cash injection to spend and to see if he can evolve the squad. His potential for job satisfaction will have improved no end and I don't think he'll be looking at any other jobs for a while.CharlieinNewMexico wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:20 pmI wonder about SD though. His stock is as high as its ever going to get right now. What if ALK gives him money and he doesn’t spend it well? What if ALK want to push academy players too early and he doesn’t want it? Right now he’s in a good position, he could take his bonus, have time with his family, and sit and wait for the perfect opportunity.
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TBH, I'm not sure that he could take us a lot further even with a bit of a budget.Dark Cloud wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:52 pmI disagree re SD Charlie. I think with no takeover he was already getting his bags packed and waiting for the right opportunity to walk, probably in the summer, as he believed he'd gone as far as he could with us, but I imagine he's feeling rejuvenated and somewhat excited at the prospect of having a little bit of a cash injection to spend and to see if he can evolve the squad. His potential for job satisfaction will have improved no end and I don't think he'll be looking at any other jobs for a while.
He's been remarkable with the money he's had, no doubt about that, but "the next level" is another matter.
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I think the reality of the situation is that there are a limited number of clubs that would employ Sean. The big six will always want to attract managers with champions league experience and have a track record of working at big clubs.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:02 pmTBH, I'm not sure that he could take us a lot further even with a bit of a budget.
He's been remarkable with the money he's had, no doubt about that, but "the next level" is another matter.
Sean is just not in that league unfortunately at this stage of his career or has the CV that other managers would likely to be attracted to a big 6 vacancy.
I am not saying he isn't capable of doing a good job there but without any connection to those clubs or a pedigree that seems to be important for these roles I think Sean with the takeover plans has nothing to lose by staying put to see whether words and actions align. He knows full well that the grass isn't always greener. Likewise the thing that was likely pushing him away will lessen now given the change in ownership.
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Did you not see the way we were playing back when Defour and Brady were fit and firing?boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:02 pmTBH, I'm not sure that he could take us a lot further even with a bit of a budget.
He's been remarkable with the money he's had, no doubt about that, but "the next level" is another matter.
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Benitez is a top manager. His record speaks for itself. Very astute tactically as we found out to our cost a few seasons back.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:45 pmI think the geordies really took to Rafa so he was always going to be a hard act to follow & bruces Sunderland connections I don’t think are endearing, being the biggest club in the northeast (my opinion) skirting with relegation season after season is underwhelming for them, really they should be trying to break into the top 4 a top 6/8 side somewhere around Everton, I know football doesn’t work out that way but that’s how some of their fans will view things.
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I love how Benitez gets labelled as "astute" but Bruce as "negative" and out of his depth. Just another example of people being blinded by a foreign coach with a more exotic feel. The reality is that Rafa's football was every bit as dull as that Bruce has produced and the results haven't been much different.
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If Sean did ever leave I’d give a gold clock for having Rafa as a replacement I rate him that highly.Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:42 pmBenitez is a top manager. His record speaks for itself. Very astute tactically as we found out to our cost a few seasons back.
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The big 6 want managers with CL experience?clarethomer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:29 pmI think the reality of the situation is that there are a limited number of clubs that would employ Sean. The big six will always want to attract managers with champions league experience and have a track record of working at big clubs.
Sean is just not in that league unfortunately at this stage of his career or has the CV that other managers would likely to be attracted to a big 6 vacancy.
I am not saying he isn't capable of doing a good job there but without any connection to those clubs or a pedigree that seems to be important for these roles I think Sean with the takeover plans has nothing to lose by staying put to see whether words and actions align. He knows full well that the grass isn't always greener. Likewise the thing that was likely pushing him away will lessen now given the change in ownership.
Arsenal - Arteta
Utd - Ole
Spurs - Jose but prior to that Poch
Chelsea - Lampard
City - Pep
Liverpool - Klopp but Rodgers before that.
Out of all those managers only 3 had previous CL experience before taking over..... Sort of blows that out of the water tbh.
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Yes, absolutely. Capable of something between 7th and 15th , we are, or have been. at that level. IMO we still could be, we've had remarkably bad luck with injuries.levraiclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:37 pmDid you not see the way we were playing back when Defour and Brady were fit and firing?
Breaking into the top 6 or sustaining a position which would see us regularly in the Europa League would be the so-called "next level" for me. This would mean attracting, buying, and paying better players than we have now. would SD be seen as the man to do that? Not sure.
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Arsenal, Man u. and Chelsea have inexperienced managers at CL level.clarethomer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 8:29 pmI think the reality of the situation is that there are a limited number of clubs that would employ Sean. The big six will always want to attract managers with champions league experience and have a track record of working at big clubs.
Sean is just not in that league unfortunately at this stage of his career or has the CV that other managers would likely to be attracted to a big 6 vacancy.
I am not saying he isn't capable of doing a good job there but without any connection to those clubs or a pedigree that seems to be important for these roles I think Sean with the takeover plans has nothing to lose by staying put to see whether words and actions align. He knows full well that the grass isn't always greener. Likewise the thing that was likely pushing him away will lessen now given the change in ownership.
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All those managers - even Rogers have had previous CL experience in management or as a player.GodIsADeeJay81 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:14 pmThe big 6 want managers with CL experience?
Arsenal - Arteta
Utd - Ole
Spurs - Jose but prior to that Poch
Chelsea - Lampard
City - Pep
Liverpool - Klopp but Rodgers before that.
Out of all those managers only 3 had previous CL experience before taking over..... Sort of blows that out of the water tbh.
Not sure Poch did actually but Spurs were not a top 6 side when he arrived.
I do agree though that it’s not necessarily a prerequisite of what the top 6 clubs are looking for in every manager they appoint....but would think that some experience of European competitions would be on their desirable list
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Doesn’t matter, it’s obvious why the 3 you’ve mentioned have been lucky enough to manage them clubs without previous experience, if arteta & ole & lampard had played for Rotherham, Crawley or Swindon most of their careers the opportunities afforded wouldn’t have happened, it was probably agreed whilst playing coming towards retirement some sort of future management was on the horizon for them. Sean dyche has never played for a top club so he wouldn’t be granted that opportunity without serious cause.
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Rodgers had zero European football experience as either player or manager.TVC15 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:21 pmAll those managers - even Rogers have had previous CL experience in management or as a player.
Not sure Poch did actually but Spurs were not a top 6 side when he arrived.
I do agree though that it’s not necessarily a prerequisite of what the top 6 clubs are looking for in every manager they appoint....but would think that some experience of European competitions would be on their desirable list
2009 was was the last time Spurs finished outside the top 6 and Poch had played 32 games in European Cup competition.
All those people stating the top 6 clubs will only want managers with European experience aren't correct, as proven.
Lampard didn't even have that good a season with Derby yet walked into Chelsea, only because of their transfer ban though.
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Rodgers never played for a top club though.Jakubclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jan 03, 2021 9:34 pmDoesn’t matter, it’s obvious why the 3 you’ve mentioned have been lucky enough to manage them clubs without previous experience, if arteta & ole & lampard had played for Rotherham, Crawley or Swindon most of their careers the opportunities afforded wouldn’t have happened, it was probably agreed whilst playing coming towards retirement some sort of future management was on the horizon for them. Sean dyche has never played for a top club so he wouldn’t be granted that opportunity without serious cause.
Neither did Wenger, or Jose.
Not sure Fergie did tbh