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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by burnleymik » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:01 pm

Once again though we are talking about referee decisions because we are not taking the chances that come our way. Quite concerning, we need to get these front lads firing again.
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:01 pm

Safron wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:56 pm
Thought he has put himself about and linked well with cork
Oh right i must be watching a different game ...if that's putting yourself about ...Wow!

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:01 pm

Man United must be crapping it for Tuesday

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Guller Bull » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 pm

What is the clamour for Vydra? Have I missed something?

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by tiger76 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 pm

Right_winger wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:52 pm
Give Dyche the red card. Another embarrassing limp out of the cup to a crap team
Are you seriously suggesting binning our most successful manager in decades because we're losing an FA Cup tie. :x I'd like a cup run as well but our priority has to be staying in the PL, and it's not Sean's fault our strikers can't hit a barn door, we've created enough chances to win 2 games in that 1st half, our problem is we are once again not being clinical.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by MDWat » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 pm
What is the clamour for Vydra? Have I missed something?
The first half? The two strikers have been woeful so far
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by kaptin1 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:57 pm
If we could finish we'd be strolling this. MK did a brilliant impression of a pub team from up Towneley up until they scored and suddenly they're passing it round like bloody Barca! Is it me or is Lewington a bit "weighty" and would actually look totally at home playing up Towneley!?
LOL. Was thinking exactly same thing about Lewington. Looks a bit thick around the chest.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Guller Bull » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 pm

So why Vydra?

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by NickBFC » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:03 pm

claretgimmer wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:00 pm
Is Dyche just going to keep playing Wood till he gets his confidence back or are we going to try and win the game by at least giving Vydra a chance, if he doesn`t come on at the start of the second half then to me it says more about Dyche and his attitude to cup games.
I agree. All for giving players a chance, but Wood is consistently missing guilt edged chances and looks devoid of confidence. Almost carrying him so I'd hook him for Vydra and see what he can do. If he can't get a run out today then he may as well leave this window.
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:03 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:51 pm
So the final decision is that Wood fouled Keogh?
I dont understand this. Fine, if the ref looked and thought Wood fouled him, free kick to MK Dons. But then why did MK Dons not get a goal kick for the Barnes penalty query?

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Colburn_Claret » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:03 pm

Our build up has been good, but in front of goal we couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo.
Strikers have spells, but this has gone on too long. We need players to score for us, try Vyds, try Jay, try the kids for the U23s, but we have to stop persisting with golden chances going begging.
We had an opportunity today, not just to progress, but to get some much needed confidence back into the strikers, and so far we are blowing it.
If it continues second half, I just pray SD doesn't leave it too long to ring the changes. Mumbongo has to be better than this.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Zlatan » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 pm

Dark Cloud wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:57 pm
If we could finish we'd be strolling this. MK did a brilliant impression of a pub team from up Towneley up until they scored and suddenly they're passing it round like bloody Barca! Is it me or is Lewington a bit "weighty" and would actually look totally at home playing up Towneley!?
Lewington is a drinking buddy of a colleague from work - he likes his ale... so I'm told
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by MT03ALG » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 pm

Vydra might just score a goal, especially with the chances created

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Rowls » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:56 pm
How is it a foul by Wood?
There's no foul by Wood is there. Keogh misjudges the flight of the ball, gets underneath it and that's where Wood is. Wood uses his body and makes the turn.

Keogh can only either foul Wood, miss the ball or handle it.

He handles it and is correctly red-carded for denying a goal scoring opportunity.

The most tragic thing about this is that it is possibly the only time Jon Moss has ever called a big decision correctly whilst reffing Burnley and it's been incorrectly overturned by VAR.

When they were talking about bringing in VAR you couldn't ever have imagined how badly implemented it would be.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by cockneyclaret » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 pm

Unless Vydra has a club lined up? Can only see that as the explanation why he's not playing

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by nyclaret » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 pm

Chris Wood's form has been well below par for a while. He needs dropping and needs to be challenged to get back in the team.
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:56 pm
How is it a foul by Wood?
Wondered at when looking at the replay if Wood was offside.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by diamondpocket » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:03 pm
I dont understand this. Fine, if the ref looked and thought Wood fouled him, free kick to MK Dons. But then why did MK Dons not get a goal kick for the Barnes penalty query?
because it didnt go to VAR as far as I understand

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Untinted Glasses » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 pm

Sell Woods, Sell Barnes. Buy any 2 strikers available from any division.
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 pm
What is the clamour for Vydra? Have I missed something?
no but Barnes and Wood have
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:05 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 pm
So why Vydra?
Cos Kevin Long is not on the bench

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Longsidebovril » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:05 pm

Here we go.
Come on you Clarets.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Grumps » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:55 pm
I'm baffled.

I was amazed when the red card came out but there is absolutely no doubt that it was a free kick to us. Where on earth does he get a free kick from for them?
Because if it was handball he'd have to send him off, and he didn't want to. The problem was moss's first decision, only one way out of it.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:05 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:02 pm
What is the clamour for Vydra? Have I missed something?
Yes. His speed and movement. He'd put them under so much more pressure higher up the pitch that they'd give the ball away constantly. Easy decision for me. Get him on. Oh, and also the fact he does incredibly well in cup games for us
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Longsidebogs » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:05 pm

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by kaptin1 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:06 pm

Not sure which was more embarrassing, the header missed by Wood or the one on one missed by Barnes

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by summitclaret » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:06 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:55 pm
I'm baffled.

I was amazed when the red card came out but there is absolutely no doubt that it was a free kick to us. Where on earth does he get a free kick from for them?
I am amazed that anyone can see Wood commits a foul.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:06 pm

martin_p wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 3:56 pm
How is it a foul by Wood?
Looked like he pushed him from my perspective.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by ClaretTony » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:06 pm

claretgimmer wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:00 pm
Is Dyche just going to keep playing Wood till he gets his confidence back or are we going to try and win the game by at least giving Vydra a chance, if he doesn`t come on at the start of the second half then to me it says more about Dyche and his attitude to cup games.
Or the manager realises Wood is a better bet than Vydra that generally we all can see

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by whiffa » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:07 pm

Grumps wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:05 pm
Because if it was handball he'd have to send him off, and he didn't want to. The problem was moss's first decision, only one way out of it.
The only part of the entire decision that was questionable was whether or not it was a red card, it was clearly hand ball. Therefore clearly a free kick to Burnley. Wood did not foul Keogh.

If the ref' didn't think it was a card worthy offense, fine but it's still a free kick to Burnley.

Final decision, free kick to MK Dons. It literally makes no sense at all. That's the point.
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:07 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 pm
There's no foul by Wood is there. Keogh misjudges the flight of the ball, gets underneath it and that's where Wood is. Wood uses his body and makes the turn.

Keogh can only either foul Wood, miss the ball or handle it.

He handles it and is correctly red-carded for denying a goal scoring opportunity.

The most tragic thing about this is that it is possibly the only time Jon Moss has ever called a big decision correctly whilst reffing Burnley and it's been incorrectly overturned by VAR.

When they were talking about bringing in VAR you couldn't ever have imagined how badly implemented it would be.
It was overturned by Jon Moss.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Zlatan » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:07 pm

we're back underway... no changes

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:08 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:06 pm
Or the manager realises Wood is a better bet than Vydra that generally we all can see
Vydra must be absolutely pump if he thinks that.
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:09 pm

cockneyclaret wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:04 pm
Unless Vydra has a club lined up? Can only see that as the explanation why he's not playing
He's just coming back from an injury.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by MiltonKeynesClaret93 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:09 pm

Why on earth is that 23 undefeated chant still up on the electronic pitch-side boards? String of games undefeated in the Championship nearly 5 years ago ffs.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Untinted Glasses » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:09 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:06 pm
Or the manager realises Wood is a better bet than Vydra that generally we all can see
He's simply better than Wood no matter what Sean Dyche thinks. Lets no think Dyche is right with everything he does. He's not.
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Rowls » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:09 pm

Tall Paul wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:07 pm
It was overturned by Jon Moss.
But the VAR must have informed him of some perceived fault in the original decision.

They talk over the intercom as they watch the endless replays.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Rowls » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:09 pm

Idea for the second half:

Catch the ball in their box and claim a penalty on a VAR appeal. Somehow.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Zlatan » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:10 pm

what we need to do is allow them some possession and hold our shape and invite them onto us and catch them on the break. Our best opportunities in the first half have come from the counter attack
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Roosterbooster » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:06 pm
Or the manager realises Wood is a better bet than Vydra that generally we all can see
Ask fans from other clubs where Vydra or Wood have played and I get a very different answer to yours CT
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Right_winger » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:10 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:06 pm
Or the manager realises Wood is a better bet than Vydra that generally we all can see
Or the manager persists
On playing the same old same again and again and doesn’t change anything new because he is so rigid and stubborn?
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:10 pm

Untinted Glasses wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:09 pm
He's simply better than Wood no matter what Sean Dyche thinks. Lets no think Dyche is right with everything he does. He's not.
Corrected that for you!
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Vegas Claret » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:10 pm

can't imagine Pace will be happy losing the first game under his ownership

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:10 pm

Commentator suggesting MKD are resting a few of their players for the next match against Peterborough

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by whiffa » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:11 pm

Wood has missed a clear goal scoring chance 4 or 5 games in a row now, I appreciate he might be better suited to our system than Vydra, but at some point others have to be given a chance. Doesn't have to be Vydra. There needs to be competition there.
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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Rowls » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:12 pm

Has Chris Wood's head been polished?

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Untinted Glasses » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:12 pm

whiffa wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:11 pm
Wood has missed a clear goal scoring chance 4 or 5 games in a row now, I appreciate he might be better suited to our system than Vydra, but at some point others have to be given a chance. Doesn't have to be Vydra. There needs to be competition there.
I'd sooner change the system that play wood in a system that needs him

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by Tall Paul » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:12 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:09 pm
But the VAR must have informed him of some perceived fault in the original decision.

They talk over the intercom as they watch the endless replays.
The final decision is the onfield referee's though.

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Re: Clarets v MKD Match thread

Post by box_of_frogs » Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:12 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:12 pm
Has Chris Wood's head been polished?
With a breeze block? Because his heading is currently cack.

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