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http://www.lancashireatwar.co.uk/world- ... 4575771599
other part of story not on the page mentions finding unexploded bomb at someplace called clay hole on the Ridge in Burnley.
I know there were a few bombs dropped in the vicinity in WW2, but I'd never heard of zeppelin raids over here before.
other part of story not on the page mentions finding unexploded bomb at someplace called clay hole on the Ridge in Burnley.
I know there were a few bombs dropped in the vicinity in WW2, but I'd never heard of zeppelin raids over here before.
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At least two bombs fell within the town boundaries in WW2.
One of them feel in the grounds of Burnley College and one fell on a decoy station up Crown Point Road killing 1 person. It was there to get bombs dropped on the moorland instead of Manchester.
One of them feel in the grounds of Burnley College and one fell on a decoy station up Crown Point Road killing 1 person. It was there to get bombs dropped on the moorland instead of Manchester.
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About 25 years ago a friend lived across from Burnley college, had a broken window in his attic and his parents swore it was due to a bomb dropping on Thompson Park during WW2, always believed it as you do, maybe they weren’t lying after all
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I know there were bombs dropped in ribble valley, think one was in chipping which hit a fuel tanker. Also one hit a terraced row in Altham west on Whalley road. to this day the gap in the row is still there to be seen.
I thought there were those decoy sites up around Hurstwood as well.
I thought there were those decoy sites up around Hurstwood as well.
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Sounds more like a stray Gifton Noel-Williams penalty to me!!Burnley1989 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 10:13 pmAbout 25 years ago a friend lived across from Burnley college, had a broken window in his attic and his parents swore it was due to a bomb dropping on Thompson Park during WW2, always believed it as you do, maybe they weren’t lying after all
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Zepelin also flew down what is basically the East Lancs railway and dropped at least 1 bomb in Ramsbottom. There's a plaque by a bridge if i remember, not sure if it killed anybody.
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Absolutely awesome to say we're c* like you are and we have a wicked sense of humour too, as evidenced in the Maine Road debacle.
Have a go at that and target, going to the trouble of all that just to get at Balckburn.
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You only have to imagine the map of Blackburn and the design team motivated.
Have a go at that and target, going to the trouble of all that just to get at Balckburn.
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You only have to imagine the map of Blackburn and the design team motivated.
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Definitely bombed Thompson’s park I’m sure.
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Was watching an interesting programme on 'Yesterday' the other day. It was actually yesterday but watching Yesterday, yesterday could be confusing
Anyway they were showing how the British were building decoy towns around major cities to lure the Luftwaffe away from the real built up areas. There was a rather humorous piece where the Germans were building a totally wooden runway and wooden planes unaware that British spotter planes were watching. In truly British humour. The RAF dropped a wooden 'bomb' on it as if to say 'You'll have to do better than that lads'.
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I am sure the story i heard was the bomb dropped where the lake is .
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The story was that due to air pollution, the town looked like a lake from the air.
A bomb did land in Thompson's Park and one around Crown Point.
The decoy building at Crown Point was mocked up to look like a munitions factory in Rochdale.
A bomb did land in Thompson's Park and one around Crown Point.
The decoy building at Crown Point was mocked up to look like a munitions factory in Rochdale.
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Really interesting story I read about a raid in Whitby in a local museum and the damage there was worse.
Apparently when the zeppelin that bombed Lancashire returned to Germany the pilot decided not to bomb Blackburn as it was already decimated plus mud huts and tethered horses don't make good targets.
Apparently when the zeppelin that bombed Lancashire returned to Germany the pilot decided not to bomb Blackburn as it was already decimated plus mud huts and tethered horses don't make good targets.
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The decoy station on Gorple Road at Hurstwood was part of a series of stations built to protect a factory in Accrington. Another was placed near Hameldon Hill, I walked up the other week but could not see much
www.lancashireatwar.co.uk/hambledon-hil ... 4590149775
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The final part of the jigsaw when developing Thomson Park was where to put a Lake.....fortunately a bomb dropped right on the very spot. Saving a lot of head scratching and money...So I'm told.
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Slightly further afield, a V1, Doodlebug, flying bomb, landed in a field outside Oswaldtwistle. It was air launched from a Heinkel bomber.
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Father in law told me one of the most guarded bridges in WW2 was the Whalley viaduct as it transported lots of munitions that were stored in various locations in the Ribble valley and Bowland forests.
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Bloody Germans. I don’t think we should ever forgive them for what they did. Inhumane. And not even that long ago.
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The bombs dropped in Altham was my dads uncles home. My dad and his brothers and sister were stopping there as my grandma and grandad were working at GEC then the air raid sounded and luckily Grandma picked the kids up and went home. Woke up the next day with uncle Tehran’s house blown to pieces.
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Uncle Ethrams sorry
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I think there was around 20 plus "Eire"stone letters wrote across the the West Coast of Ireland to make sure the Germans didn't mix the Irish island for the English mainland .
Seems we got on quite well with the Germans as their U boats liked to call in from time to time .
Seems we got on quite well with the Germans as their U boats liked to call in from time to time .
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My grandma used to recall seeing a zepplin(s) over Rossendale during WW1.
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Just out of interest, dermotdermot how would not forgiving the Germans manifest itself. For example how should I behave differently towards Germans, if I too chose not to forgive them for the Second World War?dermotdermot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:49 amBloody Germans. I don’t think we should ever forgive them for what they did. Inhumane. And not even that long ago.
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There was another stick of German bombs dropped that damaged houses at the top of Rossendale Road in 1941.
It was a good job no one was sat on the privy at the time.
It was a good job no one was sat on the privy at the time.
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Dresden.dermotdermot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:49 amBloody Germans. I don’t think we should ever forgive them for what they did. Inhumane. And not even that long ago.
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Thanks to Darwen Days website; from a book I have been working on for several years now, and again regarding WWII rather than WWI:
One morning in September 1940, a lone German bomber probably returning from a night raid on Liverpool dropped the last of its load on housing in the centre of Darwen, just down the road from Blackburn. Six local folk were killed.
One victim was ill-fated coalman James Page, who had begun a delivery round that day only in place of a colleague who was late, and narrowly escaped the explosions only to succumb soon afterward beneath a collapsing chimney stack.
Clearly, when your number was up there was no escape.
One morning in September 1940, a lone German bomber probably returning from a night raid on Liverpool dropped the last of its load on housing in the centre of Darwen, just down the road from Blackburn. Six local folk were killed.
One victim was ill-fated coalman James Page, who had begun a delivery round that day only in place of a colleague who was late, and narrowly escaped the explosions only to succumb soon afterward beneath a collapsing chimney stack.
Clearly, when your number was up there was no escape.
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Sorry this is not the article I thought it was... but worth reading. The Rossendale free press had an archive of an article were they shot one down in the Valley...
A Zeppelin crashed/was shot down in Holcombe Rossendale after dropping bombs in the Rossendale Valley.
https://aircrashsites.co.uk/history/zep ... cashire-2/
A Zeppelin crashed/was shot down in Holcombe Rossendale after dropping bombs in the Rossendale Valley.
https://aircrashsites.co.uk/history/zep ... cashire-2/
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A different one from Rossendale, don’t know where I saw the crash photos... think it must have been in a local archive, likely Lancashire Archive in Preston. But here is more on the Rossendale attack
https://www.rossendalefreepress.co.uk/n ... 2-11977505
https://www.rossendalefreepress.co.uk/n ... 2-11977505
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Dresden was In the latter part of the war. The Blitz was near the beginning. The Germans deserved everything they got. I will qualify it by saying war is ugly full stop and and civilians get hurt and killed. That evil regime ( and the Japanese) had to be stopped at all costs.
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Racist. You only have to see what has happened in Trump’s America to see how easily people can be taken in by a gobshite orator with a platform. Although it has the same right wing factions as the rest of Europe modern Germany is a wonderful country.dermotdermot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:49 amBloody Germans. I don’t think we should ever forgive them for what they did. Inhumane. And not even that long ago.
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There was a bit of a difference. What a strange post. The Prussians had been an aggressive military state for hundreds of years before Hitler... right back to Fredrick the great... it is why they were our go to allies for much of history... against Louis XIV, Napoleon.... they even served with the Hessians in the War of Independence.huw.Y.WattfromWare wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:37 amRacist. You only have to see what has happened in Trump’s America to see how easily people can be taken in by a gobshite orator with a platform. Although it has the same right wing factions as the rest of Europe modern Germany is a wonderful country.
As for banning racists, I agree... but I also believe people who consider everyone racist who says something they do not agree with should also be banned as equally dangerous.
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I briefly worked with a bloke who was a prisoner of war in Burma at John Cotton’s before he retired. We used to have to give him the day off whenever we expected Japanese car reps (such asHonda, Toyota etc...) as he made no secret of the fact he’d attack them on sight... he could literally have got away with murder... diminished responsibility, and brought a doctors note issued in the late forties to prove it was a bad idea to keep him in Calder Milldermotdermot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:49 amBloody Germans. I don’t think we should ever forgive them for what they did. Inhumane. And not even that long ago.
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That's cos you're dazed and confused.Herts Clarets wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:18 amI'm not seeing a whole lotta love for this thread....
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Many years ago I managed some investments for an elderly widow whose only instructions were “nothing German or Japanese” which back then wasn’t very helpful!!elwaclaret wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:09 amI briefly worked with a bloke who was a prisoner of war in Burma at John Cotton’s before he retired. We used to have to give him the day off whenever we expected Japanese car reps (such asHonda, Toyota etc...) as he made no secret of the fact he’d attack them on sight... he could literally have got away with murder... diminished responsibility, and brought a doctors note issued in the late forties to prove it was a bad idea to keep him in Calder Mill
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40-odd years ago I worked for a national vehicle parts distributor & the manager of the Chester branch, Sid Berry, refused to have anything manufactured in Japan in his depot, due to having been a Japanese PoW during WW2. Unfortunately this was the beginning of the surge in Japanese manufacturing for tools, cars etc, so he spent most of his time vetting products that head office had allocated to him.elwaclaret wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:09 amI briefly worked with a bloke who was a prisoner of war in Burma at John Cotton’s before he retired. We used to have to give him the day off whenever we expected Japanese car reps (such asHonda, Toyota etc...) as he made no secret of the fact he’d attack them on sight... he could literally have got away with murder... diminished responsibility, and brought a doctors note issued in the late forties to prove it was a bad idea to keep him in Calder Mill
However,he wasn't averse to selling replacement parts for Japanese cars, saying " About time they had some reliable engineering going into those piles of crap!"
Sid had the foresight of Mystic Meg, as we can now see
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typical english jingoism.dermotdermot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 8:49 amBloody Germans. I don’t think we should ever forgive them for what they did. Inhumane. And not even that long ago.
if the rest of the world took that attitude towards the british empire then our only allies would be a small sausage factory in tanganyika.
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Which we actually took from the Germans at the end of WW1 and kept as part of the WW1 reparations Germany had to pay us.
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And that wasn't even the wurst part......................
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It's interesting to read accounts of people not being scared. In an era where planes were not common I'd be scared to death seeing a giant zeppelin dropping bombs in the air.
Yes they were a stupid idea but still a scary one. Only thing scarier would be flying on one.
Yes they were a stupid idea but still a scary one. Only thing scarier would be flying on one.
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Update on the world war 2 bombs that fell on the town.
Burnley's first bomb fell in Thompson Park at 9.50 pm on 27th October 1940, about 50 yards from the Municipal College and near to Bank Hall hospital, which had its windows blown out by the force of the blast. The only visual signs of the bomb were a small crater and an uprooted tree.
The other bomb fell on 6th May 1941 and was one of a stick of eight incendiaries, seven of which landed outside the town boundary. The bomb damaged a water main, telephone wires and some houses in Manchester Road.
It was two men that died at the decoy station up Crown Point Road in late December 1940 during the blitz on Manchester.
Burnley's first bomb fell in Thompson Park at 9.50 pm on 27th October 1940, about 50 yards from the Municipal College and near to Bank Hall hospital, which had its windows blown out by the force of the blast. The only visual signs of the bomb were a small crater and an uprooted tree.
The other bomb fell on 6th May 1941 and was one of a stick of eight incendiaries, seven of which landed outside the town boundary. The bomb damaged a water main, telephone wires and some houses in Manchester Road.
It was two men that died at the decoy station up Crown Point Road in late December 1940 during the blitz on Manchester.
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My parents used to do fire watching during WW2 from the roof of Burnley Town Hall. They did say though that if on duty on a Saturday and there was nothing doing that they could get into the dance going on downstairs!
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https://www.rte.ie/brainstorm/2021/0528 ... edenderry/Tribesmen wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:16 amI think there was around 20 plus "Eire"stone letters wrote across the the West Coast of Ireland to make sure the Germans didn't mix the Irish island for the English mainland .
Seems we got on quite well with the Germans as their U boats liked to call in from time to time .
My Old Grannie wasn't too keen on the Germans - they seem to have misplaced Upper Amiens Street
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Details of the RAF personnel involved in the Burnley raid one killed four injured ...bodge wrote: ↑Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:36 pmUpdate on the world war 2 bombs that fell on the town.
Burnley's first bomb fell in Thompson Park at 9.50 pm on 27th October 1940, about 50 yards from the Municipal College and near to Bank Hall hospital, which had its windows blown out by the force of the blast. The only visual signs of the bomb were a small crater and an uprooted tree.
The other bomb fell on 6th May 1941 and was one of a stick of eight incendiaries, seven of which landed outside the town boundary. The bomb damaged a water main, telephone wires and some houses in Manchester Road.
It was two men that died at the decoy station up Crown Point Road in late December 1940 during the blitz on Manchester.
http://www.rafcommands.com/database/air ... qdate=1941
Aircraftsman L R Harwood: KILLED ; Sergeant D A Murphy, Aircraftsman D R Fryatt, Aircraftsman J Owen, Aircraftsman E A Jones: INJURED ; enemy bombing raid at Burnley, Lancashire, 12 OCTOBER 1941.
Aircraftman 1st Class Leslie Ronald HARWOOD (1295013) of the Royal Air Force Volunteer Reserve
Circumstances of Death: AIR81/9582
Death of Death 1941-10-12 Age : 21 years.
Served in Burnley
Burial/Commemoration Details : Sec. 2. Row 6. Grave 4. at Worthing (Durrington) Cemetery, United Kingdom (Map)
More Details: SON OF PERCY AND EVA HARWOOD, OF WORTHING.
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My gran said she can remember a German plane flying up Barker house Road in Nelson during the day. It had obviously got lost. The pilot apparently dropped his bombs on the moors and then bailed out.
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Only one bomb was dropped on the town where I now live - when I saw the photo of the ‘bombing of a northern town’ I was a bit surprised to recognise a crossroads all of two minutes walk down the lane from my house .. similar story it was dropped by a stricken bomber believed to be returning from a raid on Barrow