So that’s it…. What now?

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So that’s it…. What now?

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:24 pm

Apparently it was a must win game. We were told.


What now?

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:25 pm

on to the next one

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:27 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:25 pm
on to the next one
But that would indicate it wasn’t a must win?

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by Tribesmen » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:28 pm

Happy with a point
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Post by thelaughingclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:28 pm

It wasn’t exactly must win, but now Saturday has gone from must not lose to must win.
A lot of pressure now on Saturdays game.

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:31 pm

Fans get carried away at times. Of course it wasn’t “must win”.

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Post by taio » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:32 pm

We get ready for the Championship and players like Brownhill and Bambi on Ice will be closer to their level....apparently

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:34 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:31 pm
Fans get carried away at times. Of course it wasn’t “must win”.
Appears it’s moved onto Saturday.

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by brexit » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:47 pm

a point away to a top 6 team - happy with that
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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by ClaretAndJew » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:47 pm

The bottom 3 have won 2 games all season.

How boring and bland for the league.

Aren't we statistically relegated?

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:52 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:47 pm
The bottom 3 have won 2 games all season.

How boring and bland for the league.

Aren't we statistically relegated?
I think so.
All that’s left now is avoiding relegation straight to League One.

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by brexit » Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:52 pm

A draw a game will leave us on 35 points at the end of the season - that might be enough

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by tiger76 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:00 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:47 pm
The bottom 3 have won 2 games all season.

How boring and bland for the league.

Aren't we statistically relegated?
Bottom 3 have actually won 3 games all season, Norwich 2, Burnley 1, Newcastle 0, and despite all 3 being on fairly decent runs we are all finding victories hard to come by, which just highlights how vital Newcastle-Burnley is in the grand scheme of things, because there is a danger of a gap emerging between the teams in the relegation zone, and Southampton who currently sit 16th, 5 points is effectively 2 wins to make up, which when you are a team that's struggling to win feels like a mountain to climb, it's by no means irretrievable especially with 2/3 of the season remaining, but we can't afford to allow that gap to grow, hence why we should be looking at 6 points against Newcastle and Watford.

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by ClaretAndJew » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:01 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:52 pm
I think so.
All that’s left now is avoiding relegation straight to League One.
I just mean, over a season, 13 games with 1 win and 10 points, has anyone survived after having those stats after that many games?

Looking like less than a point per game all season.

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by Spijed » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:05 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:01 pm
I just mean, over a season, 13 games with 1 win and 10 points, has anyone survived after having those stats after that many games?

Looking like less than a point per game all season.
One team I think had 12 points after 19 matches and survived comfortably. Can't remember who it was though.

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by Stalbansclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:06 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:01 pm
I just mean, over a season, 13 games with 1 win and 10 points, has anyone survived after having those stats after that many games?

Looking like less than a point per game all season.
Agree it looks bleak on the face of it but "par" for staying up is a point a game which we are unfortunate not to have and is by no means irretrievable. I keep telling myself this when the darkness threatens to descend !

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:06 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:01 pm
I just mean, over a season, 13 games with 1 win and 10 points, has anyone survived after having those stats after that many games?

Looking like less than a point per game all season.
Oh right you are serious…

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by tiger76 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:09 pm

ClaretAndJew wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:01 pm
I just mean, over a season, 13 games with 1 win and 10 points, has anyone survived after having those stats after that many games?

Looking like less than a point per game all season.
We were in a far worse spot back in 18/19 campaign, 12 points from 19 games, and yet still comfortably survived, I suppose the major difference this time is other teams are picking up points at a healthy rate, and it might well need 37-38 points minimum to secure our PL status for another year.

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by Lancasterclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:11 pm

Still only one win away from escaping the bottom three

And apart from City, Chelsea and Liverpool, there is a not a lot in this league to be worried about

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Post by boatshed bill » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:15 pm

Not long to the window.
I'm sure our new owners won't want us to get relegated, I anticipate serious transfer activity.
A centre-midfield and a striker...on borrowed money

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Post by fatboy47 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:16 pm

Were we to win our game in hand we'd be 3 points behind 11th place.

We've lost no more games than 6th placed Wolves.

Must win games my arse.

We've got this.

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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by tiger76 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:17 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:11 pm
Still only one win away from escaping the bottom three

And apart from City, Chelsea and Liverpool, there is a not a lot in this league to be worried about
I don't disagree with you LC, however tonight was our 7th draw in 13 games, put simply turn 2 or 3 of those draws into victories and we'd be comfy in mid-table, so we aren't a million miles away from hauling ourselves out of trouble, the key will be beating those sides around us, as we've shown we can nick points away to the better sides, and despite a tough away schedule we've only lost at City and the 2 Merseyside clubs, so hopefully once we travel to the sides lower in the table we'll be able to pick up a win or two, as well naturally as improving our form at TM.
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Post by ElectroClaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:19 pm

Midfielder/s desperately required in the New Year.
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Post by NewClaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:21 pm

Well, season over.

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Post by superdimitri » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:21 pm

Great point. Don't personally think the midfield is the total problem, our strikers are generally very poor.
We need more squad depth though. Today would have been Stevens chance but he just isn't fit enough.

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Post by Spijed » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:22 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:15 pm
A centre-midfield and a striker...on borrowed money
:o

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Post by davetheclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:29 pm

brexit wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:47 pm
a point away to a top 6 team - happy with that
Exactly, its a good point only 1 defeat in last 8 ( away to City) you just have to keep chipping away, and when you can't win you make sure you don't lose we may have to do the same Saturday.
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Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:35 pm

I thought an away point against a top 6 side packed with real international quality wasn't bad at all. The game was extremely open and we handled them alright. Unbeaten in 5 i think? and loads of points up for grabs in Dec. We've a fully fit squad and should be able to bring in a proper midfielder,so there's all to play for IMO. In fact it's almost staggering that the surrender monkeys are already out.

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Post by SouthLondonexile » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:36 pm

Disappointed with Chris Wood, rather for him.
Charlie Taylor epic !

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Post by bodge » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:37 pm

Wolves won their last 3 home games until tonight !

Draw is fine Satday, can't wait, i'll be there.

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Post by jojomk1 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:40 pm

Find two central midfielders, and a striker who can actually control a ball - any ball

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Post by Spijed » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:46 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:40 pm
Find two central midfielders, and a striker who can actually control a ball - any ball
Tbh, there are not many strikers outside of the big clubs who are any better than Wood. That's why he constantly gets into double figures.

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Post by boatshed bill » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:51 pm

Spijed wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:22 pm
:o
Even if the cash isn't there I reckon they'll borrow enough.
I'm basically saying they won't let lack of immediate cash cost us via relegation.
A blind man on a galloping horse can see what we need to refresh the squad.
TBH, a decent right winger wouldn't be a bad addition :D

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Post by mybloodisclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 10:52 pm

Playing well so far, decisions have gone against us, like they always do!! However hopefully, if they even up the dropped points certainly like the ones against Norwich, and perhaps we really don't look that bad.

I can honestly say I think we will be fine. Should have beat Leeds (lapse of concentration at the end), Norwich (did a classic Burnley away day and Krul should have walked) Leicester (thanks VAR) and Palace (Vyds should have done better at the end) and it makes a massive difference, yes we could / should have lost at Chelsea but you see my point.

Looking forward to taking my lads on their first trip to Newcastle on Saturday, hopefully coming home with the points!!
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Post by elwaclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:01 pm

We were shipping goals for fun that has now stopped. Next comes the adding goals
Mid-table finish
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Post by jojomk1 » Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:15 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:01 pm
We were shipping goals for fun that has now stopped. Next comes the adding goals
Mid-table finish
Didn't we concede 3 at home in last game ;)

One swallow and all that ?

Being honest, I thought Wolves looked as toothless as us tonight and they also could not score against Norwich (just like us)

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Post by elwaclaret » Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:28 pm

jojomk1 wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 11:15 pm
Didn't we concede 3 at home in last game ;)

One swallow and all that ?

Being honest, I thought Wolves looked as toothless as us tonight and they also could not score against Norwich (just like us)
That wasn’t one swallow though that was a rock solid defence, and a good solid defensive point. Wolves might not be running at full speed right now but they are constantly getting in niggles and know all the continental professional tricks and use them. Eye gouging foot left in etc. Dean Smith was exactly what Norwich needed and he’s tightened them up quick sticks. I don’t now expect Norwich to be relegated either.

Burnley are comfortably mid table regarding performances for me. If we can get some fresh legs into midfield and a better striker option off the bench we do it at a canter.

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Post by martin_p » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:08 am

What we need is another 26/27 points from our remaining 25 games, doesn’t really matter which games they come from.

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Post by RVclaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:49 am

What now? There will be another thread tomorrow saying the Newcastle game is a must win.

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Post by vinrogue » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:05 am

We have 10 points from 13 games, ideally to hit 38 points at the end of the season that currently makes us just 3 points behind the curve, win at Newcastle 13 points from 14 and we are almost on track for a 37/38 point total. That is realistic and if you look at the teams that are only 1 or 2 points ahead of the curve at the moment then come April some will have fallen behind it.

Don't panic................................yet

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Post by Volvoclaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 4:10 pm

Had a nightmare last night. Dreamt that we got relegated and them down the road got promoted via playoffs. Couldn't happen thought I, then looked at Championship table.............no, no no.

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Post by kentonclaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:19 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:49 am
What now? There will be another thread tomorrow saying the Newcastle game is a must win.

The Magpies have drawn with all of the Bottom 6 teams they have faced thus far (Southampton, Leeds, Watford & Norwich) as have the Clarets (Leeds, Norwich & Southampton) so the MUST WIN becomes a MOST LIKELY DRAW as far as these 2 teams are concerned. ;)

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Post by jrgbfc » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:37 pm

In our first season in the Prem under Dyche I seem to recall we drew plenty and the general consensus was that we were playing well. Unfortunately in the end it wasn't good enough, it sounds obvious but if we're going to stay up we have to put some wins on the board and sharpish.

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Post by Terrier » Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:51 pm

Newcastle will be a lot more nervous than us sat, no wins, home to a team round them and a massive expectant crowd.
Just right for a team like ours, the longer the game goes without them scoring the more i think a claret victory!
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Post by Spijed » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:50 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 5:37 pm
In our first season in the Prem under Dyche I seem to recall we drew plenty and the general consensus was that we were playing well. Unfortunately in the end it wasn't good enough, it sounds obvious but if we're going to stay up we have to put some wins on the board and sharpish.
We won 7, drew 12, lost 19 ending up on 33 points.

The one thing I'm fairly confident about is that we won't come close to losing the same number of games.

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Post by Elizabeth » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:07 pm

What now the OP asks.

Provide the same protection to Pope as we did last night.

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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:13 pm

So what were/are the consequences of not winning last nights game if, as we were told on here, it was a must win?

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Post by Goodclaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:22 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:13 pm
So what were/are the consequences of not winning last nights game if, as we were told on here, it was a must win?
Unfortunately, we have been relegated. The Premier League noted we had said it was a "must win" and we didn't win. That's just how it goes. It's a shame but we have to take it.
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Post by Bordeauxclaret » Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:26 pm

Goodclaret wrote:
Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:22 pm
Unfortunately, we have been relegated. The Premier League noted we had said it was a "must win" and we didn't win. That's just how it goes. It's a shame but we have to take it.
Ah well. It’s been a good run.
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Re: So that’s it…. What now?

Post by Down_Rover » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:44 pm

it is far too early for must win games.

WE could lose tomorrow and still climb out of the bottom 3 by beating Watford in a couple of weeks

there is a long way to go

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