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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 31, 2022 7:35 pm

Paul Waine wrote:
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Hi Vegas, back in 2020 - just before I retired - one of my colleagues, an Indian woman, was working in Denver. I was told it would cost the company at least $5,000 to apply for an extension to her 12 months post-graduate work permit/visa. (I forget what the US system called it). Fortunately, the company was very pleased to spend the money. She was very good.
US is VERY expensive. I suspect Kompany will be going for this VISA, I checked before I posted - I'm gobsmacked how cheap it is
https://www.gov.uk/sportsperson-visa
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Rileybobs » Tue May 31, 2022 7:54 pm

Heard the delay is due to both parties negotiating their share of the visa application fee. This could drag on.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by bfcjg » Tue May 31, 2022 7:54 pm

If the salary for Kompany is as has been reported,I think the money would be better spent on players and get a manager in with experience of the Championship and how to get out of it.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by RVclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 7:57 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 7:54 pm
If the salary for Kompany is as has been reported,I think the money would be better spent on players and get a manager in with experience of the Championship and how to get out of it.
Or will the salary for VK be worth it $ wise if he’s able to attract several loans (4/5) from City / other top academies? Therefore saving on fees from permanent signings.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 31, 2022 8:11 pm

Saw this on twitter, made me laugh:
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Bigvince » Tue May 31, 2022 8:12 pm

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Reecey1987 » Tue May 31, 2022 8:14 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 7:54 pm
Heard the delay is due to both parties negotiating their share of the visa application fee. This could drag on.
No need for sarcasm I only posted what I was reading at the time .

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Burnley1989 » Tue May 31, 2022 8:14 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 7:54 pm
If the salary for Kompany is as has been reported,I think the money would be better spent on players and get a manager in with experience of the Championship and how to get out of it.
:lol:

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Rileybobs » Tue May 31, 2022 8:19 pm

Reecey1987 wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 8:14 pm
No need for sarcasm I only posted what I was reading at the time .
Wasn’t related to your post R87.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Smile » Tue May 31, 2022 8:23 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 8:14 pm
:lol:
I guess you know him better than me - so if he's fishing, I wouldn't know anyway. If he isn't, well..

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by BurnleyFC » Tue May 31, 2022 8:35 pm

Alan Pace should just name himself as first team manager.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by depechedingle » Tue May 31, 2022 8:38 pm

The process of losing my virginity was quicker than this, and my God did that drag on!!!! 😳

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue May 31, 2022 8:41 pm

depechedingle wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 8:38 pm
The process of losing my virginity was quicker than this, and my God did that drag on!!!! 😳
I can imagine.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 31, 2022 8:53 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 8:35 pm
Alan Pace should just name himself as first team manager.
Who would he sack then? :lol:

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by bfcjg » Tue May 31, 2022 8:54 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 7:57 pm
Or will the salary for VK be worth it $ wise if he’s able to attract several loans (4/5) from City / other top academies? Therefore saving on fees from permanent signings.
Fair point.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by bfcjg » Tue May 31, 2022 8:58 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 8:14 pm
:lol:
Some posters make really good points counter to your view that you read and think, yes I think you may well be right, some posters put an emoji on.
I know which kind of poster I read with interest.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Smile » Tue May 31, 2022 9:00 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 8:54 pm
Fair point.
You can't have been serious? £2.5 million is reportedly being paid to him. That doesn't pay for a leg in today's transfer market.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by brexit » Tue May 31, 2022 9:05 pm

where is Tony Mowbray?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by beddie » Tue May 31, 2022 9:10 pm

brexit wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 9:05 pm
where is Tony Mowbray?
If I see him tomorrow I’ll ask him, I’m up that way.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by bfcjg » Tue May 31, 2022 9:16 pm

Smile wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 9:00 pm
You can't have been serious? £2.5 million is reportedly being paid to him. That doesn't pay for a leg in today's transfer market.
Wages, it goes towards wages, they are not buying him they are paying him that amount of money, some people just dont get it. We pay a manager a million less it means we can pay perhaps 2 good footballers more and they may come for that. It is not difficult to work out.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Zlatan » Tue May 31, 2022 9:26 pm

I’m a firm believer that managers should be the highest paid member of a team infrastructure
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Steve1956 » Tue May 31, 2022 9:30 pm

Vincent Kompany....that was easy, ...what's the prize

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 9:32 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 9:30 pm
Vincent Kompany....that was easy, ...what's the prize
You don’t have to put yourself through the next few pages of this thread.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Steve1956 » Tue May 31, 2022 9:33 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 9:32 pm
You don’t have to put yourself through the next few pages of this thread.
I didn't I just answered the OP question ...piece of plss this predicting lark.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by kaptin1 » Tue May 31, 2022 9:39 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 8:35 pm
Alan Pace should just name himself as first team manager.
Player manager … we’re still lacking a bit of pace up front
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by eastcoastclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 10:02 pm

If we don't get the work permits through by tomorrow afternoon, we are going to be waiting until next week. Can we please all just accept that in advance as a possibility and not spend the next four days being nasty to each other. It isn't because Kompany is going elsewhere or that the club are failing in some way, it is simply that the government department that issue work permits haven't signed it off before the Bank Holiday weekend.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 31, 2022 10:07 pm

I’ve just been looking through this thread and spotted a couple of things.

1 - I’d assumed it started once Sean Dyche was sacked but it was five days earlier after the defeat at Norwich

2 - The first mention of Kompany is on page 12 with reference to the betting odds and someone asking a couple of betting companies for odds on Kompany. Seems someone might have known something then.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Pearcey » Tue May 31, 2022 10:07 pm

eastcoastclaret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 10:02 pm
If we don't get the work permits through by tomorrow afternoon, we are going to be waiting until next week. Can we please all just accept that in advance as a possibility and not spend the next four days being nasty to each other. It isn't because Kompany is going elsewhere or that the club are failing in some way, it is simply that the government department that issue work permits haven't signed it off before the Bank Holiday weekend.
There’s no jubilee bank holiday in Germany so it’s gives Borussia Monchengladbach a massive advantage.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 31, 2022 10:13 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 10:07 pm
There’s no jubilee bank holiday in Germany so it’s gives Borussia Monchengladbach a massive advantage.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by elwaclaret » Tue May 31, 2022 10:14 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 9:33 pm
I didn't I just answered the OP question ...piece of plss this predicting lark.
I think he’s referring to the bi-polar emotions as people dis/believe the latest bit of idle gossip… and a few asking why they are getting in a lather…

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Paul Waine » Tue May 31, 2022 10:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 7:35 pm
US is VERY expensive. I suspect Kompany will be going for this VISA, I checked before I posted - I'm gobsmacked how cheap it is
https://www.gov.uk/sportsperson-visa
I've looked at the link. As Vincent Kompany's wife and children are UK citizens, perhaps his wife can get a job in the UK and bring her husband in as her dependant - always assuming "dependants" can themselves also get a job, that should work.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Paul Waine » Tue May 31, 2022 10:17 pm

Pearcey wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 10:07 pm
There’s no jubilee bank holiday in Germany so it’s gives Borussia Monchengladbach a massive advantage.
I want to know why not? After all the Windsors came over here from Germany, didn't they? ;)

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue May 31, 2022 10:18 pm

If it’s down to a work permit it’s a formality, no need for loopholes or lawyers.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by brexit » Tue May 31, 2022 10:24 pm

At times like these I wonder what happened to Mystic Meg
And I still miss Saxo

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by TheFamilyCat » Tue May 31, 2022 10:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 10:07 pm
I’ve just been looking through this thread and spotted a couple of things.

1 - I’d assumed it started once Sean Dyche was sacked but it was five days earlier after the defeat at Norwich

2 - The first mention of Kompany is on page 12 with reference to the betting odds and someone asking a couple of betting companies for odds on Kompany. Seems someone might have known something then.
Cue 'Eastenders' drums
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue May 31, 2022 10:37 pm

Very interesting that Kompany showed interest in mid April just before the Belgian cup final, which must have been just about when Dyche got sacked.

He must have shown interest, or us in him, because that guy from Newcastle on Twitter with about 36 followers seemed to prompt the bookies to start offering odds on Kompany, it looked like he had found something out, “fill your boots” the guy had tweeted. Seems more plausible than the normal weird folk we see on there because that geezer never tweets anything of substance and suddenly started asking multiple bookies about Kompany when he isn’t even a Claret.

In one sense that subsequent 10 points out of 12 for Jackson teased the board into thinking they could drag this out - obviously hindsight is a wonderful thing and we all agreed at the time, but one does wonder if an earlier appointment of Kompany could have changed things? Those three wins, again in hindsight, were against fairly tepid opposition.

It’s not healthy to wonder of course, and I don’t think that’s right, injuries and refs played the biggest role, and the work permit delay would have been a pain, but I’m still transitioning through the stages of grief so can't help the sliding doors thoughts :(

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by KRBFC » Tue May 31, 2022 11:06 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 10:37 pm
Very interesting that Kompany showed interest in mid April just before the Belgian cup final, which must have been just about when Dyche got sacked.

He must have shown interest, or us in him, because that guy from Newcastle on Twitter with about 36 followers seemed to prompt the bookies to start offering odds on Kompany, it looked like he had found something out, “fill your boots” the guy had tweeted. Seems more plausible than the normal weird folk we see on there because that geezer never tweets anything of substance and suddenly started asking multiple bookies about Kompany when he isn’t even a Claret.

In one sense that subsequent 10 points out of 12 for Jackson teased the board into thinking they could drag this out - obviously hindsight is a wonderful thing and we all agreed at the time, but one does wonder if an earlier appointment of Kompany could have changed things? Those three wins, again in hindsight, were against fairly tepid opposition.

It’s not healthy to wonder of course, and I don’t think that’s right, injuries and refs played the biggest role, and the work permit delay would have been a pain, but I’m still transitioning through the stages of grief so can't help the sliding doors thoughts :(
Here's the reason he gave for asking bookies to offer odds on Kompany to Burnley.
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Tue May 31, 2022 11:13 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 10:18 pm
If it’s down to a work permit it’s a formality, no need for loopholes or lawyers.
Appears to be what’s held up the announcement

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by spt_claret » Tue May 31, 2022 11:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 11:06 pm
Here's the reason he gave for asking bookies to offer odds on Kompany to Burnley.
Assuming this screenshot is real and not some Photoshopped social media manipulation, wouldn't this mean ALK had been talking to Kompany while he was at Anderlecht, and while Dyche was still manager? That seems...well, I know Bolton did similar to us with Coyle but still unlikely. I don't see how that would fit with these delays, as it would mean we've had 6 weeks at least to get the work permit etc. sorted.
Suppose this is the way of social media, a few pictures and words and the rumour mill gets going but this seems really odd and not something I'm all that inclined to believe.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by JarrowClaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:01 am

spt_claret wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 11:58 pm
Assuming this screenshot is real and not some Photoshopped social media manipulation, wouldn't this mean ALK had been talking to Kompany while he was at Anderlecht, and while Dyche was still manager? That seems...well, I know Bolton did similar to us with Coyle but still unlikely. I don't see how that would fit with these delays, as it would mean we've had 6 weeks at least to get the work permit etc. sorted.
Suppose this is the way of social media, a few pictures and words and the rumour mill gets going but this seems really odd and not something I'm all that inclined to believe.
I get the impression from what has been said and actually Anderlechts actions that him moving had been agreed some time again.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 1:23 am

Paul Waine wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 10:16 pm
I've looked at the link. As Vincent Kompany's wife and children are UK citizens, perhaps his wife can get a job in the UK and bring her husband in as her dependant - always assuming "dependants" can themselves also get a job, that should work.
he will get one very very easily - just a matter of how quick the UK government process the application - not sure if there is a pay more get it quicker option ?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by helmclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:54 am

Paul Waine wrote:
Tue May 31, 2022 10:16 pm
I've looked at the link. As Vincent Kompany's wife and children are UK citizens, perhaps his wife can get a job in the UK and bring her husband in as her dependant - always assuming "dependants" can themselves also get a job, that should work.
It’s not as simple as that unfortunately. I’ve been trying to get my wife and son a visa to move to the UK for the last 2 years.

The current Home Office is incredibly hostile and unwelcoming to foreign nationals, even if they are married to a Brit.

There is a basic human right to a ‘family life.’ However, this current Home Office have done away with that and encourage you to move away to your partners country of origin.

I’d imagine Kompany’s ‘star status’ will go a long way to ensuring his WP is approved though in this instance.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Quicknick » Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:08 am

helmclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:54 am
It’s not as simple as that unfortunately. I’ve been trying to get my wife and son a visa to move to the UK for the last 2 years.

The current Home Office is incredibly hostile and unwelcoming to foreign nationals, even if they are married to a Brit.

There is a basic human right to a ‘family life.’ However, this current Home Office have done away with that and encourage you to move away to your partners country of origin.

I’d imagine Kompany’s ‘star status’ will go a long way to ensuring his WP is approved though in this instance.
Agreed. Fairly recently, a friend tried moving back to England from Tokyo with his delightful Japanese wife. He has been with her since 1991, and she speaks English really well, but her written English is non-existent, meaning she failed the English test.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by SydneyClaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:18 am

Looks to me from some reports that he’s already unofficially started work in the transfer market with BFC. If that’s the case then surely it’s a given. Just got to wait for the official confirmation. Visas are a pain in the arse thanks to Brexit.

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 3:51 am

helmclaret wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:54 am
It’s not as simple as that unfortunately. I’ve been trying to get my wife and son a visa to move to the UK for the last 2 years.

The current Home Office is incredibly hostile and unwelcoming to foreign nationals, even if they are married to a Brit.

There is a basic human right to a ‘family life.’ However, this current Home Office have done away with that and encourage you to move away to your partners country of origin.

I’d imagine Kompany’s ‘star status’ will go a long way to ensuring his WP is approved though in this instance.
which is exactly why they will go for the sports one - no question whatsoever of his "elite" status so he will get it even if he hasn't already. I hope you get your situation sorted Helm, they make it so hard for sure :(
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Re: Name the next manager

Post by The Enclosure » Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:37 am

I wonder if the Home Office know that Prince Charles is one of our celebrity fans.? :roll:

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by Culmclaret » Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:49 am

…..but he’s German…..

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by The Enclosure » Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:53 am

Culmclaret wrote:
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…..but he’s German…..
Really?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by chekhov » Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:04 am

The Enclosure wrote:
Wed Jun 01, 2022 7:53 am
Really?
He’s maybe thinking of Prince Philip. Though he was Greek wasn’t he?

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Re: Name the next manager

Post by The Enclosure » Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:08 am

Philips father was Greek and his mother, Alice was English..Think he is referring to the Saxe- Coburg connection going way back.

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