Trooping the Colour!

[dsr]

I think most are on a Monday, probably the least productive day of the working week.

Friday's no better.

[karatekid]

Unbelievable. We get 2 days off work to spend with our families and some people would rather be at work because they don’t like the royal family . .

[Devils_Advocate]

The public purse spending millions on one of the worlds richest family, in the middle of a cost of living crisis where hard working people are struggling to heat and feed themselves, shows me 100% what is wrong with the world we live in today.

I have no personal feeling one way or another to the royal family as people (except for Pedo nonce's like Andy) but this is not the time we should be p*ssing money away on some meaningless anniversary.

If the Queen had anything about her she would funded it herself through her own massive personal wealth and I think that would have been a great gesture that the whole country could have got behind.

Just have a think how many desperate family's could the government helped with the money they've chucked at this pointless jubilee

[karatekid]

Let’s ground the Battle of Britain memorial flight team as well because that cost a fortune to run. Cancel the D Day and VE day celebration and while we’re at it let’s not waste any more money on Remembrance Sunday. In fact let’s just forget about everything this country has ever achieved.

[Devils_Advocate]

If you think there is a comparison with the Queen just staying alive and events like the battle of Britain and D-Day you are absolutely deluded.

Also if you think the money spent on these events are anywhere near what this jubilee event is costing you are just completely uninformed and clueless.

If we want to celebrate great men and women who had very little but gave everything they did have for this country then that sounds fantastic but if we want to spend millions on a women who's basic achievement is outliving her father for 70 years whilst living the most privileged and luxurious life possible then Im gonna say hold on a minute

Ask yourself if you had a choice of fighting in the battle of Britain, landing on the beaches of Normandy or living your life as a King or Queen what would you see as a great sacrifice and what would you see as living the life of riley?

[Beagle]

Unbelievable. We get 2 days off work to spend with our families and some people would rather be at work because they don’t like the royal family . .

Strange isn’t it, like how almost all of our annual holidays were won by the trade unions but they’re still slated constantly.

[fatboy47]

Unbelievable. We get 2 days off work to spend with our families

Keep tugging that forelock kk...and keep voting for your masters from the Eton elite, and be grateful for any crumbs that fall down off their table for you.

[pushpinpussy]

Unbelievable. We get 2 days off work to spend with our families and some people would rather be at work because they don’t like the royal family . .

lets be honest. the majority of posters on this message board are either retired or on benefits so its just another day to them.

[Lancasterclaret]

Let’s ground the Battle of Britain memorial flight team as well because that cost a fortune to run. Cancel the D Day and VE day celebration and while we’re at it let’s not waste any more money on Remembrance Sunday. In fact let’s just forget about everything this country has ever achieved.

I just wish we discussed stuff we haven't achieved (ie stuff we are not proud of) as much as we celebrate (rightly by the way) the stuff you mention

[JohnMcGreal]

It's all just a bit tacky, isn't it? It's very strange for a supposedly modern, advanced and progressive country to degrade itself in this way.

Each to their own. I understand that some people get a real kick out of it, but I think the whole pantomime is embarrassingly out of date and it's time the country grew up a bit.

[Colburn_Claret]

People who still think the Royals give a **** about them really are strange and annoying in equal measure.

2 pages of the new managers thread was taken up with a discussion on respect.
I'm a royalist, but I understand that not everyone is. I'm not here to try and persuade anybody to change their pov. Yet to come on this thread to attack the royal family, the people who are just enjoying the occasion, just highlights the complete lack of respect many on the other thread were talking about.
There's a time and a place, this wasn't it. Feel what you like, but hold your opinion for the right time, have enough respect to allow those who want to, to just enjoy the day.

[Lancasterclaret]

lets be honest. the majority of posters on this message board are either retired or on benefits so its just another day to them.

Or live a completely different life to what they actually do

[bfcjg]

AA opposed to breaking into our places of work?

AA, RAC, Green flag in fact any responsible motoring organisation should be against burglary.

[BurnleyFC]

You can immediately tell who the Corbynistas are on this thread.

[Lancasterclaret]

2 pages of the new managers thread was taken up with a discussion on respect.
I'm a royalist, but I understand that not everyone is. I'm not here to try and persuade anybody to change their pov. Yet to come on this thread to attack the royal family, the people who are just enjoying the occasion, just highlights the complete lack of respect many on the other thread were talking about.
There's a time and a place, this wasn't it. Feel what you like, but hold your opinion for the right time, have enough respect to allow those who want to, to just enjoy the day.

Isn't this the sort of place to have this discussion though?

I'd rather it was on here than in the midst of the celebrations (one of the reasons I'm not going to my local jubilee party is that I don't agree with it but I don't want to have to explain why I don't agree with it to people who just want to have a good time) I think

PS Royalist, but think in the current economic situation this is all a bit too much

[taio]

I just wish we discussed stuff we haven't achieved (ie stuff we are not proud of) as much as we celebrate (rightly by the way) the stuff you mention

You'll get plenty of that from daily news and media. The negative and bad news overwhelms the good news by a considerable distance. So much so I view much less these days.

[Colburn_Claret]

Isn't this the sort of place to have this discussion though?

I'd rather it was on here than in the midst of the celebrations (one of the reasons I'm not going to my local jubilee party is that I don't agree with it but I don't want to have to explain why I don't agree with it to people who just want to have a good time) I think

Nothing wrong with the place, just the timing.

Why can't people just be left to enjoy the occasion as they see fit.

[Lancasterclaret]

Nothing wrong with the place, just the timing.

Why can't people just be left to enjoy the occasion as they see fit.

But this is the timing to have the discussion

Its like strike action, no point doing it when no one will notice

Plus I don't think anyone is stopping people having a good time if they want to

[Boss Hogg]

I’m no Royalist at all but as a military procession it is excellent. The effort and practice to do this to perfection is impressive and as a country we do it very well. For me it is providing respect to the armed forces. It certainly meant a lot to the ex WW2 soldiers interviewed.

[Peebs89]

You can immediately tell who the Corbynistas are on this thread.

Same with the Brexit voters.

[claret2018]

Let’s ground the Battle of Britain memorial flight team as well because that cost a fortune to run. Cancel the D Day and VE day celebration and while we’re at it let’s not waste any more money on Remembrance Sunday. In fact let’s just forget about everything this country has ever achieved.

We should absolutely stop doing all that.

[Rileybobs]

Nothing wrong with the place, just the timing.

Why can't people just be left to enjoy the occasion as they see fit.

Who isn’t being left to enjoy the occasion? This is a discussion about Trooping the Colour which has segued slightly to include peoples general thoughts about the jubilee celebrations. Are people only allowed to contribute if they enjoy or agree with these events?

[2 Bee Holed]

Just on finances alone.
20/21 Sovereign's Grant = £86 million.

To pay for members of her family, travel, catering, recommissioning of palaces. Employment of thousands of staff, etc.

Financial experts in 2017 calculated the economy was boosted by £1.7 billion, due to the monarchy.

I make no comment, it speaks for itself.

[box_of_frogs]

Just on finances alone.
20/21 Sovereign's Grant = £86 million.

To pay for members of her family, travel, catering, recommissioning of palaces. Employment of thousands of staff, etc.

Financial experts in 2017 calculated the economy was boosted by £1.7 billion, due to the monarchy.

I make no comment, it speaks for itself.

Don’t bring financial facts into this. It’s goes against Comrade Corbyn’s principles.

[Duffer_]

Just on finances alone.
20/21 Sovereign's Grant = £86 million.

To pay for members of her family, travel, catering, recommissioning of palaces. Employment of thousands of staff, etc.

Financial experts in 2017 calculated the economy was boosted by £1.7 billion, due to the monarchy.

I make no comment, it speaks for itself.

If economic gain is the sole consideration, it speaks for itself, then it's a wonder that slavery was ever abolished.

[Lancasterclaret]

Just on finances alone.
20/21 Sovereign's Grant = £86 million.

To pay for members of her family, travel, catering, recommissioning of palaces. Employment of thousands of staff, etc.

Financial experts in 2017 calculated the economy was boosted by £1.7 billion, due to the monarchy.

I make no comment, it speaks for itself.

My only issue with that is how much of that is income earned by the Royal family, and how much is people coming to see the buildings etc (which would still be there whatever happens)

Some honesty about the costs of stuff in this country would be nice

[claret2018]

Just on finances alone.
20/21 Sovereign's Grant = £86 million.

To pay for members of her family, travel, catering, recommissioning of palaces. Employment of thousands of staff, etc.

Financial experts in 2017 calculated the economy was boosted by £1.7 billion, due to the monarchy.

I make no comment, it speaks for itself.

Buckingham Palace alone is worth an estimated £1.3bn. Kick them out, sell that and we’ve almost recouped our losses straight away!

[Stayingup]

Is it something you start to appreciate as you get older?

OK stick to Love Island. Pure class.

[Stayingup]

Buckingham Palace alone is worth an estimated £1.3bn. Kick them out, sell that and we’ve almost recouped our losses straight away!

And have a president? Do you actually understand the implications of what you said there?

[claret2018]

The Royal Family is the Kardashians for baby boomers

[2 Bee Holed]

Buckingham Palace alone is worth an estimated £1.3bn. Kick them out, sell that and we’ve almost recouped our losses straight away!

What losses?

[Inchy]

It all looks really cool but when you think about it logically it’s crazy that the royal family are still tolerated

[2 Bee Holed]

My only issue with that is how much of that is income earned by the Royal family, and how much is people coming to see the buildings etc (which would still be there whatever happens)

Some honesty about the costs of stuff in this country would be nice

I don't think we ask the tourists coming in....
"Would you still come and look at this building if the Queen didn't use it?"

So we don't know.

[2 Bee Holed]

And have a president? Do you actually understand the implications of what you said there?

That's just it, they want an elected head of state, so that in itself makes it s political appointment.
Someone like Boris or Corbyn.

Let's abolish thousand + years of history and tradition, Boris fancy a stint as head of state?

[Jamesy]

Yet another thread hijacked by lefties. They must have started salivating when they saw the title of the topic.
If you don’t agree with the monarchy or are ashamed of our British history, go and do something useful then on this bank holiday like topple another statue.

[JohnMcGreal]

That's just it, they want an elected head of state, so that in itself makes it s political appointment.
Someone like Boris or Corbyn.

Let's abolish thousand + years of history and tradition, Boris fancy a stint as head of state?

If the general public electing people to represent them is such a stupid idea, then why not just do away with our parliamentary democracy completely and let the blue blooded royals govern the place with total freedom?

[Lancasterclaret]

I don't think we ask the tourists coming in....
"Would you still come and look at this building if the Queen didn't use it?"

So we don't know.

Right

So its a bit of an iffy stat then isn't it?

[Lancasterclaret]

If the general public electing people to represent them is such a stupid idea, then why not just do away with our parliamentary democracy completely and let the blue blooded royals govern the place with total freedom?

I think we've elected a load of rich privileged people anyway haven't we?

Got to admit, I don't think its the way to go!

[Rileybobs]

Everyone know that people only visit London because of the royal family.

[taio]

Everyone know that people only visit London because of the royal family.

Yeah coz that's what's been suggested

[Lancasterclaret]

Yet another thread hijacked by lefties. They must have started salivating when they saw the title of the topic.
If you don’t agree with the monarchy or are ashamed of our British history, go and do something useful then on this bank holiday like topple another statue.

I love people are interested in our history

I just wish they didn't ignore the bits they are not interested in because its not what they want to acknowledge

[BurnleyFC]

Everyone know that people only visit London because of the royal family.

I only visit London to leave the country.

[Lancasterclaret]

I only visit London to leave the country.

I only visit London to watch Burnley

[Rileybobs]

Yeah coz that's what's been suggested

Just demonstrating how easy it is to take an extreme view that has no basis like others have done. Like referring to people as Corbynistas or lefties because they don’t agree with the scale of the jubilee celebrations.

It’s impossible to determine how much money the royal family generate through tourism, and whether this outweighs their cost. But even if they were hugely financially beneficial, would that reason enough to persevere with them? Take a step back, forget about history and tradition and think about how bonkers it is that the country is ruled by someone who happens to be born into an elite family.

Obviously we’re processed through history and tradition to think that it is normal for us to be subjects to the monarchy, but the whole system belongs in the Middle Ages. I find the razzmatazz that surrounds it equally baffling.

[taio]

I love people are interested in our history

I just wish they didn't ignore the bits they are not interested in because its not what they want to acknowledge

May be create a separate thread for the bits no one is interested in to post on, preferably without trying to turn it into a political discussion, or better still discuss it elsewhere with people who might be interested in those bits and where political discussion is permitted.

[lakedistrictclaret]

The Queen reigns, she doesn't rule.

There is a subtle difference.

[Spijed]

Everyone know that people only visit London because of the royal family.

But it's a bit disappointing that when they open Buckingham Palace to the public during the summer months at least one junior member of the Royal family isn't around to offer advice and help with the guided tours.

Would certainly enhance the experience for many of the tourists, especially those that come from Asia or the U.S.A.

[Lancasterclaret]

May be create a separate thread for the bits no one is interested in to post on, preferably without trying to turn it into a political discussion, or better still discuss it elsewhere with people who might be interested in those bits and where political discussion is permitted.

Its very clear that you are not interested

Not not interested enough not to comment though

[martin_p]

I love people are interested in our history

I just wish they didn't ignore the bits they are not interested in because its not what they want to acknowledge

I think there’s a time and a place for acknowledging the more difficult parts of our history and during a celebration probably isn’t it. You probably wouldn’t go to your uncles birthday party and start a conversation on the 18 months he spent in the nick for GBH!

[daveisaclaret]

I think there’s a time and a place for acknowledging the more difficult parts of our history and during a celebration probably isn’t it. You probably wouldn’t go to your uncles birthday party and start a conversation on the 18 months he spent in the nick for GBH!

You might not think your uncle was a great bloke worth celebrating if he'd spent 18 months in the nick for GBH.