One thing I was thinking about. There were reports that he had a relegation release clause/fee. Yet we also have the option to extend his contract by an additional 12 months towards the end of his current contract.leightonjameslegend wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 6:14 pmLatest on Twitter Southampton fans must sign Collins, £20m should do it! Clowns
Sadly we’re going to be subject to this all summer.leightonjameslegend wrote: ↑Tue May 31, 2022 6:14 pmLatest on Twitter Southampton fans must sign Collins, £20m should do it! Clowns
Southgate won't leave Pope out of the world cup squad whether Johnstone moves to a Premier League club or not.
I honestly think he'd drop him in the championship, he dropped Johnstone and he had a couple of good games for us before it
I understand what you are saying but if you think that playing in the championship for 3 months will change Southgate's perception of Popes abilities then I beg to differ.
Playing for Burnley changes Southgate's perception of his abilities. Of Tarkowskis abilities, it's why he wants to move. It changed Hodgson's perceptions of Danny Ings abilities- he got an England callup after 8 games/5 starts for Liverpool.
If we have a defence of Taylor, Mee, Collins, Roberts, he'll have nothing to do. So why not sell for £30 million and have someone else standing there doing very little.Tricky Trevor wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 4:44 pmI pray that Nick Pope stays and our defence are so good he never has a shot to save.
Goalkeepers are usually the exception to the rule.spt_claret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:55 pmPlaying for Burnley changes Southgate's perception of his abilities. Of Tarkowskis abilities, it's why he wants to move. It changed Hodgson's perceptions of Danny Ings abilities- he got an England callup after 8 games/5 starts for Liverpool.
Players generally get dropped on relegation, Butland and Johnstone are rare exceptions who had the advantage of familiarity with Southgate from the England youths, especially Butland who was his U21 keeper.
England squads have never been picked on ability or performance alone- club status, reputation, media profile and other considerations have always been a huge influencer.
He’s a good player himtiger76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:28 pmLucas Joao of Reading linked.https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/exclu ... yer-sale/
We could do a lot worse, and if he's available for a modest fee I can see why we'd be interested.
Certainly the kind of striker that Kompany likes, big, strong but also mobile and with good technical ability.tiger76 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:28 pmLucas Joao of Reading linked.https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/exclu ... yer-sale/
To be fair Macca
Creating chances - I’d love to see some of that!!Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 9:35 pmTo be fair Macca
In 84 apps in the champ he’s scored 35 goals and got 13 assists.
That’s a goal contribution once every two games and over a full season that would equate to 20 goals. I would like to think we would be a better team than reading also so maybe them figures would improve with more chances going his way.
I think this one is twaddle
I’d like it to be true.
I think they bid 10m according to the sun.
It’s going to be interesting to see what he goes for.
Yeah, NP just seems to be getting better and better though.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 7:55 amIt’s going to be interesting to see what he goes for.
The current prem record for a keeper over 30 is 16m (that was Rui Patricio). In prem history there’s only been 4 keepers over 30 transferred for more than 10m.
Ramsdale was 23 with a 3 year contract.warksclaret wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:15 amRamsdale went for £24m I believe-thats probably a good barometer. I think Burnley can hang on for £25m plus
I think we hold an option of an additional year, so technically 2 years.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:05 amRamsdale was 23 with a 3 year contract.
Pope is 30 with a year left.
I suspect 20m will be the absolute max for him. I just don’t think the market pays that much for keepers that age. There’s only been one keeper over 30 years old that’s sold for more than 20m
or a Ben Gibson, Wout Weghorst, Marco Gentile (for those of a certain vintage), style situation. Signing players is risky.... always, and for a number of reasons. If it was as easy as sell your best players and buy better ones, then everybody would do it. The reality of it is, that I reckon at least half of all signings prove disappointing.littlemissclaret wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:35 amTarkowski - purely hypothetical and lots of its and buts, had we sold he to Leicester for £30m could we not have bought Fofana or similar? We would now have a £30m-£50m asset under contract?
And nowadays being about 12.spt_claret wrote: ↑Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:55 pmPlaying for Burnley changes Southgate's perception of his abilities. Of Tarkowskis abilities, it's why he wants to move. It changed Hodgson's perceptions of Danny Ings abilities- he got an England callup after 8 games/5 starts for Liverpool.
Players generally get dropped on relegation, Butland and Johnstone are rare exceptions who had the advantage of familiarity with Southgate from the England youths, especially Butland who was his U21 keeper.
England squads have never been picked on ability or performance alone- club status, reputation, media profile and other considerations have always been a huge influencer.
Samba joins a Championship club rather than sign again for a Premier League clubNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:53 amI could imagine Samba joining us on a free and pope goes there
Samba was 2nd choice keeper until an injury gave him the chance. He's on a very low wage apparently. In the championship that probably means 5k a week.