Alan Pace Interview

[arise_sir_charge]

It matters not what Alan Pace says or even does.

He’s the devil incarnate to many on here.

It’s a bit said really but so be it.

[Rileybobs]

It matters not what Alan Pace says or even does.

He’s the devil incarnate to many on here.

It’s a bit said really but so be it.

Not to me. I’ve got nothing against the guy. I don’t feel the need to take one extreme view or the other, unlike some on here…

[ClaretAndJew]

SAY SOMETHING ALAN SAY SOMETHING!!

NO NOT THAT!!!!!!!

Yawn

[Rileybobs]

SAY SOMETHING ALAN SAY SOMETHING!!

NO NOT THAT!!!!!!!

Yawn

Just worth pointing out again that there are a lot of people who post on this board, so it is quite possible that those who were asking Alan to say something aren’t the same people questioning his comments. Crazy I know.

[ClaretAndJew]

Just worth pointing out again that there are a lot of people who post on this board, so it is quite possible that those who were asking Alan to say something aren’t the same people questioning his comments. Crazy I know.

It's a fair point mate.

Just a bit of over the top joking from me.

I think the problem is, because as a "collective" things are either one way or the other, it's hard to filter through the extreme "pro" and "con" Alan Pace stuff.

I imagine there'll be people who wanted him to say stuff who were unhappy with what he's said and also people who didn't mind either way happy with what he said, and vice versa so on etc.

[NewClaret]

It matters not what Alan Pace says or even does.

He’s the devil incarnate to many on here.

It’s a bit said really but so be it.

Probably why he’s stopped communicating.

Can’t blame him really.

Nowt as queer as folk.

[Swizzlestick]

I think it’s also worth baring in mind this is a translated interview with possible nuances missed. Like Jedi I’m in the middle but I do think some of the virulently anti Pace crowd are going very OTT in this thread about a reasonably innocuous comment.

[Vegas Claret]

There’s having ambition and there’s being realistic.

If Alan Pace’s business plan is to achieve a European place in five years then that’s naive in the extreme. I wonder what steps he’s putting in place to achieve that aim?

also remember this "quote" is from a Belgian article that clearly has many translation errors....

[Nori1958]

Probably why he’s stopped communicating.

Can’t blame him really.

Nowt as queer as folk.

And lots of queer folk about it seems

[LaLigaClaret]

Club owners and Chairmen all say all sorts of things about their clubs. Clearly fans of the club need to hear ambition and positivity particularly after relegation from the top division and the loss of a long serving manager who brought much to the club. I see nothing wrong with the view he expressed. Why would VK take the job if he didn't have ambition and belief in making progress and getting back to the top division ? In football all sorts of things can happen and it might be possible to achieve the ambition set out however sometimes it doesn't work out but what the fans need and want is at least the hope and the possibility that it could be achieved. Fans don't need the message that the club, management, owners and players are not going to at least make the effort. Some posters on here are never happy and are only too quick to bring negativity. Please at least give the owners, management and players at least the time to have a go at trying to get us back up and to progress from there.

[joey13]

Club owners and Chairmen all say all sorts of things about their clubs. Clearly fans of the club need to hear ambition and positivity particularly after relegation from the top division and the loss of a long serving manager who brought much to the club. I see nothing wrong with the view he expressed. Why would VK take the job if he didn't have ambition and belief in making progress and getting back to the top division ? In football all sorts of things can happen and it might be possible to achieve the ambition set out however sometimes it doesn't work out but what the fans need and want is at least the hope and the possibility that it could be achieved. Fans don't need the message that the club, management, owners and players are not going to at least make the effort. Some posters on here are never happy and are only too quick to bring negativity. Please at least give the owners, management and players at least the time to have a go at trying to get us back up and to progress from there.

The same owners who got us relegated with the biggest debt in the clubs history , I missed that when Pace and crew took over .

[LaLigaClaret]

The same owners who got us relegated with the biggest debt in the clubs history , I missed that when Pace and crew took over .

I think you will find it was the players who got us relegated I don't remember Alan Pace playing many matches last season.. As for the owners just give them a chance to see what happens. You can't seriously claim they wanted us to go down. The lack of investment in players from the previous owners also set us on the path to relegation or are you going to overlook that too. Sean Dyche was a massive factor in our club achieving what it did along with the players but his tactics, substitutions, formations just didn't work in the season just ended. The current owners, players and management need to look forward with ambition and to give the fans hope and belief. We don't need negative carping at this time.

[joey13]

I think you will find it was the players who got us relegated I don't remember Alan Pace playing many matches last season.. As for the owners just give them a chance to see what happens. You can't seriously claim they wanted us to go down. The lack of investment in players from the previous owners also set us on the path to relegation or are you going to overlook that too. Sean Dyche was a massive factor in our club achieving what it did along with the players but his tactics, substitutions, formations just didn't work in the season just ended. The current owners, players and management need to look forward with ambition and to give the fans hope and belief. We don't need negative carping at this time.

So sacking the manager without a plan didn’t contribute to relegation then
As for negative carping you keep believing the bullshit from the snake oil salesman

[Nori1958]

The same owners who got us relegated with the biggest debt in the clubs history , I missed that when Pace and crew took over .

I think it was when the previous owners had saved enough money by not investing, leaving any buyer with a playing staff under equipped to stay up, but with enough money stashed away to make a fortune

[burnleymik]

So sacking the manager without a plan didn’t contribute to relegation then

It gave us a chance we didn't look like we had when Dyche was in charge. If things had continued, as it was going, we would have been relegated long before the last day of the season.

[IanMcL]

Yep certainly is.

How weird is it that the only interview from pace following relegation is with the Belgian press.

Wonder if there’s been a fall out with the British press.

You mean he is the new Bob Lord?

[IanMcL]

The telling sentence is the last one. 'The change Burnley needed'

It suggests to me that Sean Dyche was a gonner, no matter what.

[joey13]

It gave us a chance we didn't look like we had when Dyche was in charge. If things had continued, as it was going, we would have been relegated long before the last day of the season.

So you know that as a fact do you ?

[gandhisflipflop]

The same owners who got us relegated with the biggest debt in the clubs history , I missed that when Pace and crew took over .

*sigh*

[tiger76]

So you know that as a fact do you ?

We'd won 4 out of 30 before Dyche was potted, and it was clear things weren't content in the squad, so if SD had stayed until the end of the season it's unlikely we'd have survived, and the 2 no shows at Brentford and especially Norwich were dire, so a decision had to be made, and the gamble nearly paid off.

[FeedTheArf]

*sigh*

Sigh all you want, but until Pace/ALK pay the money/debts back they will, quite rightly, never be accepted by many

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Sigh all you want, but until Pace/ALK pay the money/debts back they will, quite rightly, never be accepted by many

Nah, a championship winning season with good football and people will start to calm down, football fans are fickle like that.
I'd we'd stayed up then there wouldn't be so much drama on here about the owners.

[Top Claret]

Potting Dyche was definitely the right move he had run his course and in hindsight should never have been offered a new contract.

Paces biggest regret must have been offering him and his staff a new contract

[AlargeClaret]

Alan’s fan boys harking on about his great communication….via a Belgian newspaper !

Of course he’s saying “ all the right things “ he’s heavily leveraged and wants a good return on the deal . He’s basically selling the silverware and hoping a big name ex player can use his kudos and contacts to bring in enough young talent to get us back up ,to enable him to service the debt . I think it’s a decent framework and a very realistic aim to bounce back up at the 1st attempt .

[FeedTheArf]

Nah, a championship winning season with good football and people will start to calm down, football fans are fickle like that.
I'd we'd stayed up then there wouldn't be so much drama on here about the owners.

But we didn’t stay up and a championship winning season when you take out Tarky, Mee, and from the outgoing links likely Pope, Cornet, Collins, Brownhill, Weghorst etc from the squad it starts to look like a very tall order. Obviously it will depend on the calibre of player we bring in but I don’t think the players we have left are going to be world-beaters in the Championship.

[gandhisflipflop]

Sigh all you want, but until Pace/ALK pay the money/debts back they will, quite rightly, never be accepted by many

It isn’t quite rightly though, is it? I’ve never known a fan base to be so obsessive with debt. Why don’t you give him a chance to pay the debt back?

[Rileybobs]

It isn’t quite rightly though, is it? I’ve never known a fan base to be so obsessive with debt. Why don’t you give him a chance to pay the debt back?

Your double standards are quite amusing. You recently said that Garlick should be nowhere near Burnley ever again.

[Milltown1882]

It isn’t quite rightly though, is it? I’ve never known a fan base to be so obsessive with debt. Why don’t you give him a chance to pay the debt back?

Burnley fans seem more concerned about the club finances than their own. It’s not our money I don’t get the obsession with it. It’s the modern game.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

But we didn’t stay up and a championship winning season when you take out Tarky, Mee, and from the outgoing links likely Pope, Cornet, Collins, Brownhill, Weghorst etc from the squad it starts to look like a very tall order. Obviously it will depend on the calibre of player we bring in but I don’t think the players we have left are going to be world-beaters in the Championship.

Dyche got us promoted after we lost a number of players in his first summer window and replaced them with some freebies etc.

It amazes me how negative some of you are, most of the time and it's like you've forgotten what's been done before with less money spent.

[gandhisflipflop]

Your double standards are quite amusing. You recently said that Garlick should be nowhere near Burnley ever again.

How is it double standards? I don’t think he should be near the club again. He claimed to be a fan, and put his own interests ahead of the club. Why he sold, and what he gained form it is a completely separate issue. I’ve no problem with Pace at all at least he wants the best for the club.

[Juan Tanamera]

Dyche got us promoted after we lost a number of players in his first summer window and replaced them with some freebies etc.

It amazes me how negative some of you are, most of the time and it's like you've forgotten what's been done before with less money spent.

Some people on here are only happy when they're miserable.

[tiger76]

Dyche got us promoted after we lost a number of players in his first summer window and replaced them with some freebies etc.

It amazes me how negative some of you are, most of the time and it's like you've forgotten what's been done before with less money spent.

This is where Kompany's contacts might be useful in the loan market, and there is a number of free agents available if we want to go down that route.

Also now we've shifted a lot of big earners off the books, that should free up funds for decent wages at Championship level, this with a reasonable chance of a promotion challenge means we'll be a good prospect for many players.

It's not always about spending big, it's often about spending smart.

[Rileybobs]

How is it double standards? I don’t think he should be near the club again. He claimed to be a fan, and put his own interests ahead of the club. Why he sold, and what he gained form it is a completely separate issue. I’ve no problem with Pace at all at least he wants the best for the club.

It’s double standards because you are having a go at fans for being ‘obsessed’ with debt, yet state that Garlick shouldn’t be anywhere near the club (despite being on the board) due to selling the club knowing that it would result in us being in debt.

How does Pace want what’s best for the club any more than Garlick, seeing as they signed up to exactly the same agreement?

Like I say, double standards - and it’s evident in all of your posts on this subject.

[gandhisflipflop]

It’s double standards because you are having a go at fans for being ‘obsessed’ with debt, yet state that Garlick shouldn’t be anywhere near the club (despite being on the board) due to selling the club knowing that it would result in us being in debt.

How does Pace want what’s best for the club any more than Garlick, seeing as they signed up to exactly the same agreement?

Like I say, double standards - and it’s evident in all of your posts on this subject.

Again, it isn’t double standards. You are suggesting that I’m saying he shouldn’t be anywhere near the club for selling to people who took on debt. My issue with Garlick is the deliberate under investment transfer window after transfer window and where that money allegedly went, at Burnley’s expense. He was no fan of the club in my opinion.

[taio]

It’s double standards because you are having a go at fans for being ‘obsessed’ with debt, yet state that Garlick shouldn’t be anywhere near the club (despite being on the board) due to selling the club knowing that it would result in us being in debt.

How does Pace want what’s best for the club any more than Garlick, seeing as they signed up to exactly the same agreement?

Like I say, double standards - and it’s evident in all of your posts on this subject.

It's bizarre. A few people criticise Garlick for putting the club at risk but then say the club isn't at risk under Pace.

[Rileybobs]

It's bizarre. A few people criticise Garlick for putting the club at risk but then say the club isn't at risk under Pace.

Exactly. A lot of people taking extreme sides, there doesn’t seem to be much middle ground.

[RVclaret]

It's bizarre. A few people criticise Garlick for putting the club at risk but then say the club isn't at risk under Pace.

I don’t think anyone has said there’s no risk?

More that it’s not a ‘basket case’ like you described we would be upon relegation.

Let’s not forget you also called for ‘Pace out!’ when he sacked Dyche, only for it to give us a great chance of staying up in the end.

Quite clear you’ve picked your side regardless.

[taio]

I don’t think anyone has said there’s no risk?

More that it’s not a ‘basket case’ like you described we would be upon relegation.

Let’s not forget you also called for ‘Pace out!’ when he sacked Dyche, only for it to give us a great chance of staying up in the end.

Quite clear you’ve picked your side regardless.

You've had to ask what the risk is under Pace. I put you in the group of people who have criticised Garlick for putting the club at risk but won't accept anywhere near the same level of risk under Pace. Time will tell if we turn into a basket case - if I said upon relegation that was too strong - it's if we don't get promoted quick enough.

[RVclaret]

You've had to ask what the risk is under Pace. I put you in the group of people who have criticised Garlick for putting the club at risk but won't accept anywhere near the same level of risk under Pace. Time will tell if we turn into a basket case - if I said upon relegation that was too strong - it's if we don't get promoted quick enough.

I asked you what you thought the risks were. You suggested not being able to service debts. That's fair enough... if the owner does not manage the clubs finances properly. With all the talk of long term vision and the fact there is seemingly a plan - when many thought there would not be - I am cautiously optimistic that the owners are aware of debt management.

I don't think I have said Garlick put the club 'at risk', just that there was a lack of ambition, to build on the success provided by Dyche at key times.

[taio]

I asked you what you thought the risks were. You suggested not being able to service debts. That's fair enough... if the owner does not manage the clubs finances properly. With all the talk of long term vision and the fact there is seemingly a plan - when many thought there would not be - I am cautiously optimistic that the owners are aware of debt management.

I don't think I have said Garlick put the club 'at risk', just that there was a lack of ambition, to build on the success provided by Dyche at key times.

You said this not long ago:

Also - they have chosen to go with only the second leveraged buyout in English football (I think) and risk the future of the club

[Goddy]

Interesting debate here about a number of issues which go beyond the Pace interview e.g. Garlick, financial situation, player investment etc etc.

One of the issues has been about Dyche's departure and, in effect, questioning Pace about that.

I believe that discussions between AP and SD had been taking place for a while with SD, apparently, concerned he'd taken things as far as he could. The Norwich game was the tipping point when AP accepted that view...and it took a few days to agree a leaving package. It wasn't AP firing SD with such impunity...it was more mutual than that.

I have a lot of time for both SD and AP. From the limited knowledge I have, both men seem to be honorable with the club's interest at heart.

I accept I might be naive/optimistic but I don't think the mistrustful/cynical views posted by a few on here are necessarily warranted/justified.

PS please don't ask me about my source - or, for some, sauce (very funny) - I really don't care if you think I'm talking rubbish or not.

Ultimately I think AP - and SD - have/had the best interests of BFC at heart and I'm very much looking forward with optimism.

Good evening to you all.

[NewClaret]

I believe that discussions between AP and SD had been taking place for a while with SD, apparently, concerned he'd taken things as far as he could. The Norwich game was the tipping point when AP accepted that view...and it took a few days to agree a leaving package. It wasn't AP firing SD with such impunity...it was more mutual than that.

I’m not so sure about that Goddy. Dyche said in his recent interview that it came on Good Friday morning, he was in the gym, Pace asked to see him, he thought “that’s strange”, went to see him & he was potted. He questioned the timing, four days after losing to Norwich.

Albeit I do think you’re right that Dyche had been open with Pacevthat he thought his time was coming to an end. That’s been said by a few posters.

What I find really, really odd has been the lack of thank you/send off for Dyche, the lack of player comments in general, even Mee’s goodbye video not featuring him. And that he was fired with no replacement lined up and Pace’s words that “he didn’t expect to have to fire Dyche after the Norwich game”. Does make me wonder if something happened/changed that week.

[Stevie Morgan]

It’s double standards because you are having a go at fans for being ‘obsessed’ with debt, yet state that Garlick shouldn’t be anywhere near the club (despite being on the board) due to selling the club knowing that it would result in us being in debt.

How does Pace want what’s best for the club any more than Garlick, seeing as they signed up to exactly the same agreement?

Like I say, double standards - and it’s evident in all of your posts on this subject.

Pace only had the chance the take over in the way he did due to Garlick's IMO self-interested hoarding of cash. It was Pace’s only option, it wasn't Garlick's.

[Goddy]

I don't think our accounts (NewClaret) of the last days of Dyche are that far apart and I accept my account may well not be accurate albeit came from someone I know and would believe.

I do agree that the lack of public thanks to SD from both AP and the players is, at best, disappointing. SD absolutely deserved better than that. (As an aside I remember Stan Ternant leaving after a game against Sunderland when all four sides of the ground (inc Sunderland fans) applauded him and not a dry eye in the house)

[Rileybobs]

Pace only had the chance the take over in the way he did due to Garlick's IMO self-interested hoarding of cash. It was Pace’s only option, it wasn't Garlick's.

It was Pace’s only option? Pace didn’t have to buy Burnley in the same way that Garlick didn’t have to sell it. They both entered into the same agreement. To criticise one for that decision without the other is totally nonsensical.

[Stevie Morgan]

It was Pace’s only option? Pace didn’t have to buy Burnley in the same way that Garlick didn’t have to sell it. They both entered into the same agreement. To criticise one for that decision without the other is totally nonsensical.

Only option by which to buy the club. He obviously wasn't a fan in the way Garlick professed to be. So no it isn't nonsensical.

[Rileybobs]

Only option by which to buy the club. He obviously wasn't a fan in the way Garlick professed to be. So no it isn't nonsensical.

Ergo Garlick’s only way to sell the club. Let’s say that Garlick wasn’t a fan in the way he professed to be (he obviously was), how does that make one culpable and the other not? It just doesn’t make sense.

[Stevie Morgan]

Ergo Garlick’s only way to sell the club. Let’s say that Garlick wasn’t a fan in the way he professed to be (he obviously was), how does that make one culpable and the other not? It just doesn’t make sense.

Because none of it would have happened in the way it did, had Garlick not fattened the club up so he could make a huge profit at the club's expense.

[Rileybobs]

Because none of it would have happened in the way it did, had Garlick not fattened the club up so he could make a huge profit at the club's expense.

And none of it would have happened if Pace hadn’t purchased the club using it’s cash reserves. Keep going, by all means…

[Vegas Claret]

It's not always about spending big, it's often about spending smart.

Lukaku and Pogba are proof of that