Summer 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[TsarBomba]

Agree with this. However effective Wallace may have been for Millwall, the whole point is to move away from these big contacts for players in their late twenties.

Yep.

I haven’t seen enough of Wallace to formulate an opinion, but he’s spent the past 6 seasons at Millwall. If he was tearing it up in the Championship on a regular basis, then it stands to reason that he would’ve moved on in that 6 years.

I’ve also seen comment from Millwall fans saying he’s not the same player he was from 2 years ago, although you can probably take that with a pinch of salt.

He was attractive because he was on a free, and that’s probably it. We don’t need him for experience as we still have that in abundance, and it’s absolutely right that we are prioritising players like Twine over him.

[Quickenthetempo]

I think we have a huge list of players with our value on them.
Clubs and players always want more than the first offer, so we move on to the next player.
Could be disastrous or get our moneys worth.

[tiger76]

4 year deal. I wonder at 28, if we weren’t prepared to go with 4.

In that case I'm glad we walked away, decent player but not someone we should be breaking our backs to sign, and even more so if he wanted a 4 year deal.

Thankfully it seems the days of us signing players with little or zero resale value are a thing of the past.

[Colburn_Claret]

How sad must you be to want to put your time and energy into creating fake twitter accounts to spread false rumours?

Exactly, have sympathy for anyone who's life is so empty.

AND stop reading the crap, attention seekers only succeed if people are willing to read, and repost their garbage. Ignore it completely and they will disappear into their bedrooms. This has to be one of the easiest MB for a fishing expedition on the web. We all crave news, but that doesn't mean we have to be desperate enough to read anything.

[Swizzlestick]

I don’t get this view?

A signing like Wallace is as low risk as they come. Proven championship top player over numerous seasons.
No transfer fee.

Yes he might want decent wages but if he gets us promoted it’s worth it.

You can’t sign 10 x twenty year olds that have done very little in there careers and expect promotion.

It’s not the end of the world losing Wallace to a promotion rival but saying we shouldnt do it because it’s a four year contract is just nonsense

How is it low risk? What kind of salary do you reckon he’d on? What if it doesn’t work out? It’s not nonsense, it’s perfectly reasonable to reject such a contract demand.

[NewClaret]

I don’t get this view?

A signing like Wallace is as low risk as they come. Proven championship top player over numerous seasons.
No transfer fee.

Yes he might want decent wages but if he gets us promoted it’s worth it.

You can’t sign 10 x twenty year olds that have done very little in there careers and expect promotion.

It’s not the end of the world losing Wallace to a promotion rival but saying we shouldnt do it because it’s a four year contract is just nonsense

Wallace & Swift would have been good solid signings. Not sure either are PL level if promoted, and likely fair to say both have reached their ceiling, but I hope we we’re going for a load of kids who lack experience.

[Newcastleclaret93]

How is it low risk? What kind of salary do you reckon he’d on? What if it doesn’t work out? It’s not nonsense, it’s perfectly reasonable to reject such a contract demand.

His rumoured salary at Millwall was around the 12.5k a week mark. (Taken with a pinch of salt).

Let’s say his contract is 30k a week. That’s a total out lay of 6m over his contract for a winger that has averaged 20 goal contributions over the last 3 seasons.

In this day and age that’s as low risk as they come.

[Swizzlestick]

Nobody is saying 'just sign 10 twenty year olds'. Stop putting words in people's mouths. We have to compete but we have to be realistic and look at things like resale etc.

And you're just plucking salaries out of thin air. It could be well over that, as you well know, particularly if clubs are pitted against each other.

[TsarBomba]

I don’t get this view?

A signing like Wallace is as low risk as they come. Proven championship top player over numerous seasons.
No transfer fee.

Yes he might want decent wages but if he gets us promoted it’s worth it.

You can’t sign 10 x twenty year olds that have done very little in there careers and expect promotion.

It’s not the end of the world losing Wallace to a promotion rival but saying we shouldnt do it because it’s a four year contract is just nonsense

We have the experience-

Hennessey
Taylor
Lowton
Cork
Westwood
Barnes
Rodriguez
McNeil
Long
Brownhill
JBG

All have played an abundance of PL and Championship football between them.

It’s youth we need, no question.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Wallace & Swift would have been good solid signings. Not sure either are PL level if promoted, and likely fair to say both have reached their ceiling, but I hope we we’re going for a load of kids who lack experience.

I agree I think there solid low risk signings at this level.

These are the type of signings you make to compliment the young exciting signings.

[Newcastleclaret93]

We have the experience-

Hennessey
Taylor
Lowton
Cork
Westwood
Barnes
Rodriguez
McNeil
Long
Brownhill
JBG

All have played an abundance of PL and Championship football between them.

It’s youth we need, no question.

We need some youth yes. But we also need signings that are going to make an immediate impact.

[Swizzlestick]

You were happy to get rid of a player with proven, solid Championship experience in Brownhill the other day.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You were happy to get rid of a player with proven, solid Championship experience in Brownhill the other day.

Yes, because I know he’s not good enough for the prem.

Wallace is good enough for the championship and could be good enough for the prem.

It’s not rocket science

[gandhisflipflop]

Yes, because I know he’s not good enough for the prem.

Wallace is good enough for the championship and could be good enough for the prem.

It’s not rocket science

We aren’t in the prem though are we?

[Swizzlestick]

He's 28, just left Millwall, but could be good enough for the Prem? Whereas Brownhill, whose younger, has actually played regularly in the Prem, was made captain of his club in the Championship, see you later?

I'm done - it's like debating with an abstract concept.

[Jambo]

I thought Wallace would have been a good signing on a free, but four years for a guy who has never played in the Premier League, when presumably we want to be back there next season, I don't think it's that straightforward. Maybe he will suddenly be good enough in the PL at 30, but on the balance of probability more likely not. I guess our plan is to sign players with the potential to be good enough to both help us get up, then stay up.

WBA doing some good business. Swift and Wallace on frees with a very experienced manager in charge suggests they'll be right up there to me.

[SkiptonClaret]

We have the experience-

Hennessey
Taylor
Lowton
Cork
Westwood
Barnes
Rodriguez
McNeil
Long
Brownhill
JBG

All have played an abundance of PL and Championship football between them.

It’s youth we need, no question.

Couple on that list are well over due being punted (Long, JGB). If we see alot of such as Barnes then we've failed to be honest. Totally agree that it's youth that we are missing.

[tiger76]

Yes, because I know he’s not good enough for the prem.

Wallace is good enough for the championship and could be good enough for the prem.

It’s not rocket science

What makes you think Wallace is good enough for the Prem, he's played in the Champ for several seasons now, and no Prem club have opted to take a punt on him, whereas Brownhill has played nearly 80 PL games over the last 2 and a bit seasons, and is seemingly attracting interest from West Ham.

[TsarBomba]

Yes, because I know he’s not good enough for the prem.

Wallace is good enough for the championship and could be good enough for the prem.

It’s not rocket science

So you are dismissing Brownhill who has been bought by a PL club, and has been coveted by a PL club that got to the Europa League final. And advocating the signing of Wallace who has never played in the PL and despite being on a free, has been signed by a Championship club.

Makes sense.

[Colburn_Claret]

His rumoured salary at Millwall was around the 12.5k a week mark. (Taken with a pinch of salt).

Let’s say his contract is 30k a week. That’s a total out lay of 6m over his contract for a winger that has averaged 20 goal contributions over the last 3 seasons.

In this day and age that’s as low risk as they come.

Do you ever sit back and read what you write.

You don't know what he was earning at Millwall.
You don't know how much Burnley offered him, if anything. He might not have even been on our radar.
You don't know how much West Brom were offering him.
For everything you think you know, there are probably 10 times as many things going on behind the scenes, that you definitely don't have a clue about.

It isn't about opinions, we all have them, and you are just as entitled to yours as anyone, but stop imagining that you know all this stuff when the only people really in the know are VK, AP and said player.

[NewClaret]

I thought Wallace would have been a good signing on a free, but four years for a guy who has never played in the Premier League, when presumably we want to be back there next season, I don't think it's that straightforward. Maybe he will suddenly be good enough in the PL at 30, but on the balance of probability more likely not. I guess our plan is to sign players with the potential to be good enough to both help us get up, then stay up.

WBA doing some good business. Swift and Wallace on frees with a very experienced manager in charge suggests they'll be right up there to me.

Agree with this - WBA will be a contender now and quite consistent, which I think is the key.

Do agree with your point that I’m not sure he represents Prem level. I saw him as a solid back up RW if we went up. Maybe just too much of a risk. Will almost certainly become less effective aged 30+.

[daveisaclaret]

Wonder if this thread might be better if there weren't 10 different people gagging to argue with the same two people every day.

[Murger]

We really need to get a move on don't we? If it's true that VK has been coming since May, we should have had a plethora of signings by now.

[Woodleyclaret]

I don't get the antipathy towards good club player Kev Long he's been a good servant and has played well when asked.
As for JBG he will do well next year and had proven to be a good creator of chances. He is recovering in time to play his part in our promotion team

[clarethomer]

Do you ever sit back and read what you write.

He just doesn't rate Brownhill - the more people engage in trying to tell him that his view is wrong, the more it drags it out as we end up in a pointless debate that never will have a conclusion.

Really spoils this board at times - people trying to convince people are wrong and they are right when most times it is just a matter of opinion that is being talked about. Not an issue if its contained to one thread but the Newcastle Claret Brownhill is like the clubs finances discussions where it infests multiple threads and it just gets taken over by the same posters.

[Newcastleclaret93]

So you are dismissing Brownhill who has been bought by a PL club, and has been coveted by a PL club that got to the Europa League final. And advocating the signing of Wallace who has never played in the PL and despite being on a free, has been signed by a Championship club.

Makes sense.

Come back to me when Brownhill signs for West Ham until then it’s just ******** in the paper.

Kind of like Burnley demanding 40m for pope

[Juan Tanamera]

I'm always blown away by just how many posters on this board have contacts with such a variety professional football clubs.

It's a form of one upmanship.
"My source is better than yours because he was spot on with a piece of information back in 1998."

[Silkyskills1]

Yes, because I know he’s not good enough for the prem.

Wallace is good enough for the championship and could be good enough for the prem.

It’s not rocket science

Think you'll find it's you that creates that concept. Albert Einstein would have been somewhat baffled by your surmise above.

[BurnleyHeff]

Yes, because I know he’s not good enough for the prem.

Wallace is good enough for the championship and could be good enough for the prem.

It’s not rocket science

If he could be good enough for the premier League then he would be plying his trade there already, especially with him being on a free. We don't want to be signing players at 28 because they might be good enough, I'd rather the club utilise what money they have on younger players that will have some resale value

[blake's wand]

We've made Kompany the highest paid manager in the Championship. We wouldn't have done that if we weren't going to back him - if we haven't got certain players, it's because we didn't think they were worth the money.

Kompany wouldn't have come if he didn't think he was going to get the people he wanted. Sure he is looking at signings above/beyond what we all know.

[beddie]

We really need to get a move on don't we? If it's true that VK has been coming since May, we should have had a plethora of signings by now.

I agree, It could be that some players may have agreed in principle to join us, in that interim period their Agent works overtime for a better deal elsewhere. I don’t know if that’s correct but where moneys concerned, anything can happen.

[Quicknick]

Trouble is, someone like Cahill has just left… as in Ben Mee

Cahill is far better than Mee.

[Quickenthetempo]

Come back to me when Brownhill signs for West Ham until then it’s just ******** in the paper.

Kind of like Burnley demanding 40m for pope

Strange thing for you to say, as most of your postings on here are from Newspapers or twitter journalists.

95% of it is crap, but you can't have it both ways.

[TheFamilyCat]

Wonder if this thread might be better if there weren't 10 different people gagging to argue with the same two people every day.

Which could probably be avoided if the same two people didn't spend all day writing repetitive ****.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Another one bites the dust....
We all need to wake up and smell the coffee..... Nothing has or will change. Same sh*t different transfer window.... look like we are trying and don't get anything done

[Pearcey]

Shame we missed out on Wallace but he doesn’t really fit with what VK was saying in his interview. We want players with sell on value so maybe we’re focused on the likes of Twine etc.

[ClaretMov]

What will come first

Our first signing

The 2000th Post

[ervi34]

One thing I find amusing is the fact that a few days ago nearly everyone was saying that Wallace would be a perfect fit for us regarding his quality, wage, the fact that he is a free transfer and he knows the league. After he signed for WBA he no longer "fits in our plans" although we were definitely in for him.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Which could probably be avoided if the same two people didn't spend all day writing repetitive ****.

I do find posts like this funny.

The same posters are the ones that were saying don’t worry we will get promoted we have the best defence in the league (pope and mee now gone).

They then said don’t worry there’s plenty of time to get players in it’s weeks till pre season.

Then it was the clubs showing ambition signing the likes of Wallace and Twine. Wallace goes to another club it’s oh we don’t need him he’s too old).

Can’t wait for the next parody to come out

[burnley007]

Why does every thread end up full of pointless bickering. It's so tedious.

Most of us just want to come on here for actual rumours, updates, news...not kids bickering over crap. It's getting ridiculous.

[Nori1958]

One thing I find amusing is the fact that a few days ago nearly everyone was saying that Wallace would be a perfect fit for us regarding his quality, wage, the fact that he is a free transfer and he knows the league. After he signed for WBA he no longer "fits in our plans" although we were definitely in for him.

A few days ago we probably didn't realise he wanted a 4 year contract, had we known, I doubt we'd have been saying he'd be a good fit

[Zlatan]

Cahill is far better than Mee.

perhaps arguably a better player, but better for Burnley - not in a million years

[tiger76]

One thing I find amusing is the fact that a few days ago nearly everyone was saying that Wallace would be a perfect fit for us regarding his quality, wage, the fact that he is a free transfer and he knows the league. After he signed for WBA he no longer "fits in our plans" although we were definitely in for him.

He'd have been ideal on a 2 year contract, but West Brom have offered him 4, and if we'd offered similar he'd be 32 at the end of that said contract, and another likely to walk for free, we need to try and get away from the policy of buying older players with no potential resale value, as this policy is one of the main reasons we're now facing a major squad rebuild.

[ervi34]

Bigger club going for Twine could be a problem for us according to Nixon.

[KlyBfc]

Whilst I appreciate I don’t know much about Wallace (apart from the odd bits on tv) I’m not over bothered that we have missed out on him. As pointed out by another he’s 28 would be 29 if we bounced back first time or 30 if it takes two years. He’s got no resale value and is an unknown at prem level (nobody else has come in for him). Also West Brom have courted him all summer, we popped into the reckoning within the last week, so we’ve hardly disastrously missed out. A fit again (I know it’s a big ask) Johan Berg Gudmonson is arguably better than him (when you consider some of his years actually in the prem and his last champ season) so we move on and see what comes up next.

[ClaretMov]

Bigger club going for Twine could be a problem for us according to Nixon.

Must be s Premier league club then because we are the biggest club in the championship by far

[ervi34]

Signings this week unlikely according to Alex James.

[FeedTheArf]

Bigger club going for Twine could be a problem for us according to Nixon.

In other shocking news, water is wet

[Steddyman]

One week after Kompany started, and we still haven't signed 10 new first team starters.

Same old ****.

[TsarBomba]

Bigger club going for Twine could be a problem for us according to Nixon.

Who do we think that will be?

One of the promoted teams perhaps? Forest?

Big jump from L1 to PL. Likely that he will either be benched or out on loan if he goes to the PL, plus if he goes to one of the newly promoted clubs there’s the possibility we’ll be swapping places next year.