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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by Cleveleys_claret » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:11 am

superdimitri wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:09 am
If I were him I'd be more concerned about having a girls name in the USA rather than getting a cup of hot tea.
I don't think I've met a single man with the name Ashley in the USA.
When you think stupid can't get stupider

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by Roosterbooster » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:43 am

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:43 am
Steve Walsh has a role at Charlotte FC, and he has a lot of north west footballing connections.
An absolute football genius is Walsh. Brought Kante, Vardy and Mahrez to Leicester for about £7m, and if the Everton board had bothered to listen, could have brought Andy Robertson, Maguire and Haaland for about £25m

I'd like it if we could entice him to Burnley

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by MT03ALG » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:53 am

Sean Dyche's Watch wrote:
Mon Jan 02, 2023 8:43 am
Steve Walsh has a role at Charlotte FC, and he has a lot of north west footballing connections.
Steve was also my source re. Ashley Westwood from 21st. November when a few us from Lancashire CSFA met up with colleagues and ex-colleagues for brunch. Steve is a former Head of P.E. at Bishop Rawstorne H.S. and a former Chorley SFA and Lancashire SFA Team Manager before moving into scouting with Mourinho at Chelsea and famously with Ranieri at Leicester City when they won the Premier League. Steve. not to be mistaken with Steve Walsh the player who actually played for Lancashire CSFA when Steve was the Team Manager (!!), brought players such as Mahrez. Kante and Vardy to Leicester (plus Drogba and Zola to Chelsea) and, after a spell at Everton, is now Special Advisor with Charlotte F.C., who are on their winter break at the moment. Steve recommended Haaland, Maguire and Robertson to Everton but the club rejected the recommendations :lol: :lol: Steve is the older brother of Mickey Walsh, the former Blackpool player.

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by superdimitri » Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:55 am

Cleveleys_claret wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 9:11 am
When you think stupid can't get stupider
You may feel that way but it is what it is. Same thing goes for the name Jamie. It was only a comment in jest btw. Sorry if it seemed any other way.

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by ClaretLoup » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:11 am

A report talking about Westwood signing for Charlotte in the past tense.

https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/source-c ... -westwood

Has the classic "sauce" reference. ;)

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by Lowbankclaret » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:37 am

It was also on Sky sports on the ticker at the bottom quoting sources in America. Looks like it’s a done deal.

Frees up wages to hopefully sign one or two of the loan players.

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by Bullabill » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:41 am

superdimitri wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 7:09 am
If I were him I'd be more concerned about having a girls name in the USA rather than getting a cup of hot tea.
I don't think I've met a single man with the name Ashley in the USA.
What about married men?
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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by NRC » Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:27 pm

According to the IRS it reached its peak popularity as a girl’s name on 2000-2001. It ranked 174 in 2021. Hardly registered at all as a boy’s name.

He’ll be fine. A Glasgow kiss goes a long way here….

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:46 pm

It's the name of a potato.

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:48 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 12:46 pm
It's the name of a potato.

Is it? My potato is called Derek.
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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by Claretnick » Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:15 pm

Ashley looks to be joining a fantastic club and set up. I have been browsing Charlotte FC website and it makes ours feel like something from the dark ages ;)
Good luck Ashley and enjoy your time in the Carolinas
https://www.charlottefootballclub.com/tickets/

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:42 pm

Good luck to him!

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by NRC » Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:48 pm

Charlotte had a pretty good draft last month, with three or four good looking players, top of which was Hamady Diop from Senegal.

I hope, with our American ownership, we do a much better scouting job than we've previously done and that has frustrated the heck out of me ever since we did a pre-season in my "home" town. it's easily done - the top players, pre-draft, do a showcase - again in my home town. A player that came out of that was also taken by Charlotte - Patrick Agyemang.

We really should be monitoring the draft and in particular a thing called the Generation Adidas Class. The 2023 roster is

Joey Akpunonu - Defender
Joshua Bolma - Midfielder
Moise Bombito - Defender
Hamady Diop - Defender (mentioned above)
CJ Fodrey - Forward
Bertin Jacquesson - Forward
Shakur Mohammed - Forward
J.C. Ngando - Midfielder
Owen O’Malley - Midfielder
Ilijah Paul - Forward
Joey Skinner - Defender

all of these players are considered good enough to be allowed to pursue professional careers and "Generation Adidas" guarantees them their college status is not impacted if it doesn't work out

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by basil6345789 » Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:53 pm

Claretnick wrote:
Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:15 pm
Ashley looks to be joining a fantastic club and set up. I have been browsing Charlotte FC website and it makes ours feel like something from the dark ages ;)
Good luck Ashley and enjoy your time in the Carolinas
https://www.charlottefootballclub.com/tickets/
Great golf courses and the Beach Music Shag scene

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by NRC » Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:57 pm

whaaat? They don't know how to shag in Charlotte!

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Westwood medical

Post by Milltown1882 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:36 am

AW is in America having a medical with Charlotte FC.

Will that mean we have 3 squad places available for signings now?

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:39 am

Not sure if Westwood was included initially?

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:48 am

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:39 am
Not sure if Westwood was included initially?
He was
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Re: Westwood medical

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:48 am

Is there more to this transfer than meets the eye do we think?

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by HiThere » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:49 am

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:48 am
Is there more to this transfer than meets the eye do we think?
Nope. We're just shipping out older players and bringing in younger ones.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:59 am

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:48 am
Is there more to this transfer than meets the eye do we think?
He's OOC this summer
Had a long lay off due to injury
32 yrs old

Great servant for us, but it would appear we're no longer handing new contracts to players over a certain age.
Long has gone, Barnes will be next I suspect, maybe Cork too this summer, but his contract runs until 2024.

We spent years handing new deals to older players and not getting young lads in to replace them, this is not going to happen anymore under these owners.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:07 pm

I think part of the point here is.
The software/VK recruitment has been so successful, the 3 outgoing players have been proven not to be needed.

That also gives some confidence that a couple more recruits could be equally successful.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:15 pm

I wish Ashley Eastwood all the very best in the US. Shame we wont see him come back on the pitch, but he has been a good pro in his time here. Think the days of getting too attached to players is over, sad in a way but clearly the map for the future makes a lot of sense, rollling progression was always necessary to maintain our place at the top table. Our failure to maintain it our downfall. Looks like continual improvement is back, and super powered. As Paul Wayne would say, exciting times!

All the best Ashley, what a great opportunity at this stage of his career.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by ClaretLoup » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:17 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:59 am

We spent years handing new deals to older players and not getting young lads in to replace them, this is not going to happen anymore under these owners.
Do you think this will apply to Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson who has made 19 appearances this season?

He is 33 in October.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by arise_sir_charge » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:24 pm

I think the poster asking if there is more to this is implying g that maybe there could be some future link between clubs/owners etc.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:29 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:17 pm
Do you think this will apply to Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson who has made 19 appearances this season?

He is 33 in October.
He's also OOC in June, and as well as he's done this season in the Championship it's a big leap to the PL, plus we presently have plenty of wide options and JBG is likely to be one of our higher earners, so given all that I can see him being released at the end of the season.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by 4midable » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:33 pm

Hel never get back to 100% so might as well play in a micky mouse league

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:37 pm

4midable wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:33 pm
Hel never get back to 100% so might as well play in a micky mouse league
A Micky mouse league that is growing at an alarming rate, and even back in Beckham’s day allowed him to treble his earnings at Real Madrid…

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by mdd2 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:58 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:37 pm
A Micky mouse league that is growing at an alarming rate, and even back in Beckham’s day allowed him to treble his earnings at Real Madrid…
Squad size down to 21 if Westy leaves and the lad from Brentford is recalled

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by Penwortham_Claret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:01 pm

Why is nobody mentioning Ashley Roy Barnes?

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by 4midable » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:17 pm

Penwortham_Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:01 pm
Why is nobody mentioning Ashley Roy Barnes?
Who?
Oh him had 1 good game in 30

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by Big Vinny K » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:20 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:37 pm
A Micky mouse league that is growing at an alarming rate, and even back in Beckham’s day allowed him to treble his earnings at Real Madrid…
Not quite - he took a 70% cut in his Real Madrid wage when he joined LA Galaxy.
The money Beckham made in America was due to some extremely clever contractual clauses around growth in league etc. Good article on the CP money thread.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by Herts Clarets » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:21 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:15 pm
I wish Ashley Eastwood all the very best in the US.
I will pass on your best wishes to my Notts Forest supporting mate, though he may be shocked to hear he is off to the US of A :lol:

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by Ric_C » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:38 pm

4midable wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:17 pm
Who?
Oh him had 1 good game in 30
That's two players you've slagged off in two posts, well done. Are you a Rovers fan?

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by northeastclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:39 pm

Surprised the transfer seems so advanced but he hasn’t had his medical yet. With such a serious injury you would have expected it to be done much earlier?

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by bobinho » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:44 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:48 am
Is there more to this transfer than meets the eye do we think?
I don’t, but I may do if I knew more. Give us a clue then?

Player moves from one club to another after being out injured for a time. Happens all the time at other clubs.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:48 pm

Herts Clarets wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:21 pm
I will pass on your best wishes to my Notts Forest supporting mate, though he may be shocked to hear he is off to the US of A :lol:
You need a firm jaw like Clint, when autocorrect does that to you! :lol:

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:50 pm

ClaretLoup wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 12:17 pm
Do you think this will apply to Jóhann Berg Guðmundsson who has made 19 appearances this season?

He is 33 in October.
Forgot about him and yeah probably, he's regained fitness and done well this season, but he won't get an extension if we get promoted.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by ClaretInLeeds » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:52 pm

Ric_C wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:38 pm
That's two players you've slagged off in two posts, well done. Are you a Rovers fan?
You won’t get a coherent, well thought out response. The guy is a clown.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:53 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:20 pm
Not quite - he took a 70% cut in his Real Madrid wage when he joined LA Galaxy.
The money Beckham made in America was due to some extremely clever contractual clauses around growth in league etc. Good article on the CP money thread.
Yes read that. The point I was making is it is far from ‘Micky mouse’ and has plenty of opportunity to make a lot more money aside from his contract.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by Milltown1882 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:13 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:48 am
He was
Some cracking middle names in that list.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by Targetman » Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:18 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 11:48 am
He was

No Egan-Riley??

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by Big Vinny K » Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:19 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:53 pm
Yes read that. The point I was making is it is far from ‘Micky mouse’ and has plenty of opportunity to make a lot more money aside from his contract.
Agree. I’ve been to watch Toronto a couple of times.
They’ve had some cracking players and are paying big wages to some players.
Right now they have 2 of the Euros winning Italy team and Insigne signed a deal worth £10m euros a year.

They have some excellent stadiums in the MLS and getting good crowds too. There’s been a few false dawns in the past with the MLS but I can only see it getting stronger and stronger now.
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Re: Westwood medical

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:25 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:19 pm
Agree. I’ve been to watch Toronto a couple of times.
They’ve had some cracking players and are paying big wages to some players.
Right now they have 2 of the Euros winning Italy team and Insigne signed a deal worth £10m euros a year.

They have some excellent stadiums in the MLS and getting good crowds too. There’s been a few false dawns in the past with the MLS but I can only see it getting stronger and stronger now.
Agree completely. I think they’ve cracked it this time. I did worry with the number of players ending their careers may lead to another overstretching implosion (like the 70’s early 80’s) but this time it seems the real deal and the potential market is really mind boggling.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by wilks_bfc » Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:48 pm

Targetman wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:18 pm
No Egan-Riley??
He’s within the u21
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Re: Westwood medical

Post by tiger76 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:58 pm

Big Vinny K wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 2:19 pm
Agree. I’ve been to watch Toronto a couple of times.
They’ve had some cracking players and are paying big wages to some players.
Right now they have 2 of the Euros winning Italy team and Insigne signed a deal worth £10m euros a year.

They have some excellent stadiums in the MLS and getting good crowds too. There’s been a few false dawns in the past with the MLS but I can only see it getting stronger and stronger now.
The performance of the US in the recent World Cup can't do the growth of the MLS any harm, although many of their squad do play in Europe, plus the fact the 2026 World Cup will be partly hosted in the US must be generating interest in the game.

And now they are attracting players in their prime not just guys who want one last big payday before hanging up their boots.

The frightening prospect for the established nations is if the USA really get their act together footy wise they could well become a major rival at forthcoming World Cups, already ranked top 20 and with a young squad who are rapidly improving.

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Re: Westwood medical

Post by Rumbletonk » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:22 pm

Penwortham_Claret wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:01 pm
Why is nobody mentioning Ashley Roy Barnes?
Its Asley Luke Barnes & Ashley Roy Westwood.

Never mind those two. Jack Frank Porteus Cork. Very fandango

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by bfcmik » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:28 pm

Soccer's growth in the US, mainly down to injury concerns over American Football - both short and long term. Parental permission is required for organised school sports participation and is becoming more difficult to obtain for American Football with the less physically developed players being encouraged by their parents to try out for soccer.

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:43 pm

MT03ALG wrote:
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Steve was also my source re. Ashley Westwood from 21st. November when a few us from Lancashire CSFA met up with colleagues and ex-colleagues for brunch. Steve is a former Head of P.E. at Bishop Rawstorne H.S. and a former Chorley SFA and Lancashire SFA Team Manager before moving into scouting with Mourinho at Chelsea and famously with Ranieri at Leicester City when they won the Premier League. Steve. not to be mistaken with Steve Walsh the player who actually played for Lancashire CSFA when Steve was the Team Manager (!!), brought players such as Mahrez. Kante and Vardy to Leicester (plus Drogba and Zola to Chelsea) and, after a spell at Everton, is now Special Advisor with Charlotte F.C., who are on their winter break at the moment. Steve recommended Haaland, Maguire and Robertson to Everton but the club rejected the recommendations :lol: :lol: Steve is the older brother of Mickey Walsh, the former Blackpool player.
And I distinctly remember his 'goal of the month' on Match of The Day in 1976, I believe. Cut in from the right wing and hit an unstoppable shot past the Sunderland keeper to pit Blackpool 3-2 up after Sunderland had pulled two goals back.
Did it win 'goal of the season perhaps? Should have done.

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Re: Ashley Westwood.

Post by NRC » Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:49 pm

bfcmik wrote:
Fri Jan 06, 2023 3:28 pm
Soccer's growth in the US, mainly down to injury concerns over American Football - both short and long term. Parental permission is required for organised school sports participation and is becoming more difficult to obtain for American Football with the less physically developed players being encouraged by their parents to try out for soccer.
This, plus the Generation Adidas scheme I mentioned earlier that massively takes of the rules around being an amateur and college. It is also now open internationally, whereas previously it was designed to feed the USMST. For example English players such as
- Jack Harrison, born Bolton, currently with Leeds
- Mo Adams, born Nottingham, currently with Al Shabab
- Calvin Harris, born Bolton, currently with Cincinnati
have all come through the Generation Adidas system.

I seriously hope Alan Pace has got staff connected, or at the least looking at the talent coming through it - they're considered professional.

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