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Re: Muric

Post by Burnleyareback2 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:27 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:12 pm
Slightly off topic, but I remember BPF getting ripped apart on here a couple of seasons ago.
Perhaps not being Nick Pope is the problem ;)
Some horrific comments on here about him. Was never given a chance by the fans

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Re: Muric

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:27 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:26 pm
:lol: hell fire
Whilst I don't really get that response I'm sure you know it.

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Re: Muric

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:30 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:27 pm
Whilst I don't really get that response I'm sure you know it.
And you likewise your comment was ridiculous.

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Re: Muric

Post by Commy » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:30 pm

I've got used to him now and don't feel as nervous as I did at the beginning. Maybe though it is because the defence, including him, have been so good lately. All keepers make mistakes and he more than atones for it with the chances he creates. He has to be the most entertaining keeper there is with being in the opposition half and spraying the ball about.

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Re: Muric

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:32 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:30 pm
And you likewise your comment was ridiculous.
No, it really is easier for a goalkeeper to improve his form when he's busy, honestly it is.

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Re: Muric

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:34 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:32 pm
No, it really is easier for a goalkeeper to improve his form when he's busy, honestly it is.
:lol:

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Re: Muric

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:38 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:34 pm
:lol:
I guess you are a goalkeeper then?

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Re: Muric

Post by helmclaret » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:38 pm

Why don’t you want him to continue to develop his game?

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Re: Muric

Post by RVclaret » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:40 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:38 pm
Why don’t you want him to continue to develop his game?
So he can be proven right. Such a bizarre stance.

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Re: Muric

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:40 pm

I don’t know why you’re laughing, he’s right. You’re calling him out for not making enough saves etc when the sheer fact of the matter is he hasn’t had to. For what it’s worth, he did have to make some saves today, and he did have to collect some crosses, and dealt with it all well. Yes, you can have your opinion, but expect to be called out on it when you make statements like ‘he isn’t a goalkeeper’ when he has predominantly been in the nets for a team with the best defensive record in the league.

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Re: Muric

Post by Spiral » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:43 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:23 pm
I think perhaps missing the 1st choice centre half's limits the ability to play out from the.back more than any other reason
That's a valid point, and I reckon Beyer is the best CB in the division, but it must be said we have played out from the back other times this season when it suited us with Taylor playing there. I think the combination of Muric's disaster against Watford and the way Luton play meant it was the right thing to do to make sure Muric wasn't overexposed.

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Re: Muric

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:45 pm

Spiral wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:43 pm
That's a valid point, and I reckon Beyer is the best CB in the division, but it must be said we have played out from the back other times this season when it suited us with Taylor playing there. I think the combination of Muric's disaster against Watford and the way Luton play meant it was the right thing to do to make sure Muric wasn't overexposed.
Yes, and add the bumpy pitch.

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Re: Muric

Post by ksrclaret » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:48 pm

Can’t believe, after Muric’s excellent display today, that Steve is posting that Muric is “gash” at goalkeeping.

Have opinions of course, but when post shite like that it’s no good crying about not being allowed them when called out on it like he did with his first post.

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Re: Muric

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:46 pm

Fair play to Muric yesterday.

Not overworked by any stretch but did everything you want from your goalkeeper.

More of the same Tuesday please

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Re: Muric

Post by CoolClaret » Sun Feb 19, 2023 2:52 pm

Can only imagine the bed wetting on here if Muric made a clanger like Pope did yesterday.

I really don’t think some posters understand how different it is to play as a sweeper than with a settled defence in front of them.

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Re: Muric

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:49 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:48 pm
Can’t believe, after Muric’s excellent display today, that Steve is posting that Muric is “gash” at goalkeeping.

Because I can... im allowed an opinion just like all the Muric lovers have theirs...i think hes gash at goalkeeping .this guy will be found out big style if he his our no1 next season

The love will turn to hate

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Re: Muric

Post by burnley007 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:52 pm

He might not be the future of Burnley's goalkeeping into next season, but he has played a BIG part in this season's success. You have to be pretty ignorant to not understand that simple fact. Or a Brexiteer who obviously will ignore all Facts that get in the way of their ideals.
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Re: Muric

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:53 pm

Opinions are like arseholes, we all have one, ironically people’s opinions often show them to be a bit of an arsehole as well.
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Re: Muric

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:55 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:52 pm
He might not be the future of Burnley's goalkeeping into next season, but he has played a BIG part in this season's success. You have to be pretty ignorant to not understand that simple fact. Or a Brexiteer who obviously will ignore all Facts that get in the way of their ideals.
:lol:

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Re: Muric

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:57 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:49 pm
You are allowed to post your opinion - I acknowledge that in the rest of the post (the bit you didn’t quote).

But you can also be found on this thread crying that your opinions are being called out. You can’t have it both ways.

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Re: Muric

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:08 pm

you saw his development tonight, came for plenty of crosses, did well again

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Re: Muric

Post by IanMcL » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:10 pm

Decent tonight.

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Re: Muric

Post by RVclaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:11 pm

Handling was excellent tonight. Some good high claims. Looks confident.

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Re: Muric

Post by Vino blanco » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:12 pm

“Decent” Ian? I know you don’t rate him but come on, he was very good tonight.

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Re: Muric

Post by KRBFC » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:27 pm

I think his high claims have been good for a long time, he's nowhere near as shaky at high balls into his 6 yard box as he was at the start of the season. He was an absolute bag of nerves 3 months ago, much more assured, that will come with development and experience.

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Re: Muric

Post by SalisburyClaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:29 pm

His best (only) game for coming for crosses - good to see the improvement. Good game throughout

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Re: Muric

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:29 pm

Played very well again tonight.

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Re: Muric

Post by NewClaret » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:32 pm

Very good tonight. Commanded his box well but went long more than normal. Probably the right decision but did impact how we built up.

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Re: Muric

Post by Bosscat » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:37 pm

Another good game tonight ... Coming for crosses etc ... No fault for their equaliser ... has put that error last week firmly to bed now ...

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Re: Muric

Post by KRBFC » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:39 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:32 pm
Very good tonight. Commanded his box well but went long more than normal. Probably the right decision but did impact how we built up.
Probably because the last 2-3 games the defence infront of him has been guilty of handing the ball over in dangerous areas. Ekdal being the main culprit, we really miss Beyer and THB in that regard.

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Re: Muric

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:45 pm

Followed Luton up with another assured performance. Confident in claiming any high balls.
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Re: Muric

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:46 pm

No we haven’t really missed Beyer and TBH in the last few games. Ekdal , Taylor and the young lad tonight have been brilliant against 3 difficult teams.
Muric’s handling was faultless tonight because he’s probably better than many think in that area

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Re: Muric

Post by KRBFC » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:02 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:46 pm
No we haven’t really missed Beyer and TBH in the last few games. Ekdal , Taylor and the young lad tonight have been brilliant against 3 difficult teams.
Muric’s handling was faultless tonight because he’s probably better than many think in that area
in terms of distribution, playing the ball out from the back, we've absolutely missed Beyer.

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Re: Muric

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:06 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:02 pm
in terms of distribution, playing the ball out from the back, we've absolutely missed Beyer.
Your opinion , but Beyer playing the ball out from the back has nothing to do with Muric’s catching tonight in my opinion . That’s what I’m talking about although I accept you may be talking otherwise.
Whatever I’m not sure with these physically strong sides Beyer or the City loanee would have been able to play out from the back so easily

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Re: Muric

Post by DCWat » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:10 pm

I’ve been critical of Muric’s keeping.

He did well tonight with the crosses into the box. Claimed some balls that earlier in the season he might have left, which was great to see.

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Re: Muric

Post by arise_sir_charge » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:16 pm

He’s fine.

This thread needs putting to bed though as there nothing surer than him making another mistake (all keepers do) and then everyone will pile in again.

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Re: Muric

Post by KRBFC » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:18 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:06 pm
Your opinion , but Beyer playing the ball out from the back has nothing to do with Muric’s catching tonight in my opinion . That’s what I’m talking about although I accept you may be talking otherwise.
Whatever I’m not sure with these physically strong sides Beyer or the City loanee would have been able to play out from the back so easily
my comment was a reply to ''went long more than normal'', which I think was because we don't have the same ball playing ability without THB and Beyer. Not a knock on Al Dakhil or Ekdal, they've been superb defensively, they're new to the league so it will take time for them to learn how to play out to the same level as the other 2.

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Re: Muric

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:21 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:18 pm
my comment was a reply to ''went long more than normal'', which I think was because we don't have the same ball playing ability without THB and Beyer. Not a knock on Al Dakhil or Ekdal, they've been superb defensively, they're new to the league so it will take time for them to learn how to play out to the same level as the other 2.
Yes I agree but I think we would not have seen THB and Beyer playing out like they normally do against our last 3 opponents Watford , Luton and Millwall who are all physically hard pressing teams

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Re: Muric

Post by KRBFC » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:24 pm

Elizabeth wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:21 pm
Yes I agree but I think we would not have seen THB and Beyer playing out like they normally do against our last 3 opponents Watford , Luton and Millwall who are all physically hard pressing teams
I disagree personally, I think you want teams to press and waste energy, knock it around them, beat the press and have big spaces to attack.

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Re: Muric

Post by Elizabeth » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:37 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:24 pm
I disagree personally, I think you want teams to press and waste energy, knock it around them, beat the press and have big spaces to attack.
If only it could be that easy against every team

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Re: Muric

Post by Commy » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:01 am

I think we have missed Beyer's slalom like runs out of defence. He seems to find a decent pass at the end of them as well. Could have done with him tonight when they were closing us down.

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Re: Muric

Post by wilks_bfc » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:06 am

You only have to look at the events at Anfield last night to see that any keeper is capable of dropping a clanger

Yes Muric has made a few mistakes, but if anybody thinks we’d be in the current position and playing the type of football we are doing without him, they’d be mistaken

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Re: Muric

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:31 am

2 solid games now after his poor showing against Watford.

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Re: Muric

Post by Billy Balfour » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:47 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:06 am
You only have to look at the events at Anfield last night to see that any keeper is capable of dropping a clanger
I was just going to mention Anfield. Sometimes we have to remember that footballers aren't robots.

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Re: Muric

Post by Stantheman » Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:32 am

He had a decent game last night apart from when he went wandering out if his box and Fleming nearly lobbed it in from 40 yards in first half.i think teams have seen this and muric needs to stop in his box.

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Re: Muric

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Wed Feb 22, 2023 10:10 am

wilks_bfc wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:06 am
You only have to look at the events at Anfield last night to see that any keeper is capable of dropping a clanger
Both mistakes at Anfield could have been avoided if the goalkeepers had put their foot through the ball instead of trying to play out.

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Re: Muric

Post by thomaspaine » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:06 pm

Hapag Lloyd wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:31 am
2 solid games now after his poor showing against Watford.
He made one mistake ….

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Re: Muric

Post by Herts Clarets » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:09 pm

Stantheman wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:32 am
He had a decent game last night apart from when he went wandering out if his box and Fleming nearly lobbed it in from 40 yards in first half.i think teams have seen this and muric needs to stop in his box.
The shot was well over the bar and Muric was back in his goal in time to deal with the shot if it had been on target.

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Re: Muric

Post by IWOODLOVETT » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:24 pm

Young keeper - all part of the learning process.

Outfield players can make multiple errors of judgment, mostly without punishment, but mistakes by goalkeepers are usually crucial. We are seeing all types of goalkeeping howlers on a regular basis - not least recently by two ex-Clarets, Pope and Hennessy (both incidents red carded).

Muric will be a better keeper after this season and will be a top, top player when he reaches Nick Pope’s age.

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Re: Muric

Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:27 pm

Stantheman wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:32 am
He had a decent game last night apart from when he went wandering out if his box and Fleming nearly lobbed it in from 40 yards in first half.i think teams have seen this and muric needs to stop in his box.
Him being out of his box is part of what makes him as useful as he is with the ball.

I’ll trade that against a once in a blue moon half way line lob.

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