Key points from tonight’s game

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Key points from tonight’s game

Post by ClaretsPadiham » Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:51 pm

Trafford isn’t ready, Muric is miles better in this system and can pass the ball more accurate and better.

We still are AWFUL at defending set pieces, teams will target us.

Some of our fans are dICks, glad they caught the lad who chucked the vape at Rico Lewis.

Just as I type this out we have an intuder on the pitch, not good at all for the image of the club this game.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by ClaretFelix » Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:53 pm

Not sure if it's just a case of VK of not showing his hand to the other teams or catering specifically for Citys threat, but you've got to put your best left winger on the left wing.

I also feel Foster will cause a lot of problems for defences this season, looked hungry, stronger and quicker than last season

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by RVclaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:53 pm

Trafford been quite impressive for me. Passing been very good.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Robbie_painter » Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:55 pm

ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:51 pm
Trafford isn’t ready, Muric is miles better in this system and can pass the ball more accurate and better.

We still are AWFUL at defending set pieces, teams will target us.

Some of our fans are dICks, glad they caught the lad who chucked the vape at Rico Lewis.

Just as I type this out we have an intuder on the pitch, not good at all for the image of the club this game.
Which of the three goals do you think Trafford should have done better with?

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by ClaretsPadiham » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:01 pm

Robbie_painter wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:55 pm
Which of the three goals do you think Trafford should have done better with?
Where did I mention any of goals ? Muric is much more comfortable on the ball, Trafford has looked shaky at times for me.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Pickles » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:01 pm

Play as good as that more than not and we'll be absolutely fine. We'll play better than that too.
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by JohnDearyMe » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:04 pm

Pickles wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:01 pm
Play as good as that more than not and we'll be absolutely fine. We'll play better than that too.
Fully agree. Confident that Kompany will learn from this as well

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Moorite » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:06 pm

Foster looks like a new signing
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by 4midable » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:06 pm

ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:51 pm
Trafford isn’t ready, Muric is miles better in this system and can pass the ball more accurate and better.

We still are AWFUL at defending set pieces, teams will target us.

Some of our fans are dICks, glad they caught the lad who chucked the vape at Rico Lewis.

Just as I type this out we have an intuder on the pitch, not good at all for the image of the club this game.
Obvs looking for a cast

Trafford looked great

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Pickles » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:08 pm

The Foster thing is funny. Some of us could tell he was getting up to speed last season and would be better this season. It was pretty obvious his attributes would be well suited to the Prem. He was superb this evening.
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by agreenwood » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:08 pm

**** takes/cast.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:09 pm

Considering the number of debutants we had against the best team on the planet, we looked quite good at times

Muric wasn’t stopping those goals
Trafford is also yet to forge a working partnership/understanding with his central defenders etc but that comes with games

We played some good football at times
Foster looks much better
The likes of Koleosho etc look like good signings

Once the team has settled we will be fine this season I think

Our bench looks very strong for this level, for us, plenty of options for the manager to use

We’re used to losing against City, we’ve scored 1 goal to their 42 in 13 games I think it was

The key is we didn’t roll over for them and the players didn’t let their heads drop and as fans that’s what we want to see
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by ervi34 » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:10 pm

I was actually impressed with Trafford. Couldn't do anything to prevent goals, his distribution was good (some nice balls over the top) and he made a few decent saves.

On the other hand, O'Shea had a tough night. Gave them a corner before the first goal, was awfully positioned before the second and was struggling in the second half. That of course doesn't mean he can't improve.

Biggest concerns are potential Benson and Beyer injuries + Zaroury's suspension.
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by BabylonClaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:11 pm

Thought we played very well - caused City some problems and with some sharper finishing (which will come) ee might have gone in level at half time.

You simply can't let Halaand have a sniff - he is utterly lethal. Good thing is the first 2 (certainly the 2nd) are not likely goals by most sides in the league.

But 3-0 is much better than 6-0 and we showed that we could play the way VK wants to. I think we are in for a decent season here. The new signings look good and Foster caused a lot of problems too.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:12 pm

Trafford was fine overall, but the team selection from the off was wrong.

Still, we were always going to lose. Onwards and upwards.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by jdrobbo » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:13 pm

Rodri is an unbelievable footballer. Absolutely world-class.
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Andreshotboots » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:14 pm

We halved the deficit from the last meeting..

In all seriousness had to watch from home tonight. Thought we played some good stuff at times and will cause problems for teams in our "section" of the league.

They'll stuff far better teams than us for sure..

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by JohnDearyMe » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:14 pm

Pickles wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:08 pm
The Foster thing is funny. Some of us could tell he was getting up to speed last season and would be better this season. It was pretty obvious his attributes would be well suited to the Prem. He was superb this evening.
Last season he never looked particularly quick but he looked sharp and pacy tonight. Looking forward to seeing him against lesser opposition

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:14 pm

There’s 3-4 posters on this board that are driving me mad, I can accept criticism but they’re clueless, and I mean really clueless.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by CnBtruntru » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:16 pm

Robbie_painter wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:55 pm
Which of the three goals do you think Trafford should have done better with?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Pickles » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:17 pm

Burnley1989 wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:14 pm
There’s 3-4 posters on this board that are driving me mad, I can accept criticism but they’re clueless, and I mean really clueless.
I genuinely wonder sometimes if people actually watch us play.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Woodleyclaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:18 pm

Everyone put in a shift .Trafford did well
Good teams punish slack marking
We will beat teams if we keep the standards up
Overall a good performance.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by CnBtruntru » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:19 pm

They brought two defenders on near the end 150 mill , we did alright tonight, think a few teams near the bottom of the league last year will be saying ****

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by bf2k » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:20 pm

ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 9:51 pm
Trafford isn’t ready, Muric is miles better in this system and can pass the ball more accurate and better.

We still are AWFUL at defending set pieces, teams will target us.

Some of our fans are dICks, glad they caught the lad who chucked the vape at Rico Lewis.

Just as I type this out we have an intuder on the pitch, not good at all for the image of the club this game.
Agree with the fans bit.

Can’t agree with the Trafford bit. He was faultless really.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Robbie_painter » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:21 pm

ClaretsPadiham wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:01 pm
Where did I mention any of goals ? Muric is much more comfortable on the ball, Trafford has looked shaky at times for me.
I thought muric should’ve started but he didn’t and Trafford did absolutely nothing wrong.He is ready you’re just going off a couple of pre season friendlies
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Clovius Boofus » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:21 pm

At least we gave the best team in the world a game for decent spells of the match. More gutted at Zaroury being suspended and having two incidents tarnishing our return to the Prem. They not only let the club down, they also let our town down too.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by pauliopaulio » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:23 pm

I know we lost but people are over-reacting. Whether you agree or not it’s a legitimate opinion to think that Muric would be a better choice than Trafford.

I personally don’t agree - I think the way City pressed us was just a different level. All our back 6 tried to play out from the back like we did last season and we barely got over the halfway line. Just like last season vs Luton (h), Blackpool (h) and Watford (a) we’ll learn, adjust and improve.

I saw enough of Trafford to think he will give us a more secure base against better strikers. But its all about opinions 😉

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Claretprinter » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:24 pm

Gumshields....top & bottom set?

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Neil » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:26 pm

Big difference in the press. We were as aggressive as possible as there's always the duel threat of them beating the press and the quick out ball to Haaland. So we couldn't go full pelt.
They have no fear of anyone and had a 5-6 man press so high up the pitch which will have been a big adjustment for our defenders who were used to 20 yards of space last season.
Think we definitely need an orthodox left back.
All in all it went as expected and nothing to be despondent about.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by KRBFC » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:29 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:09 pm
Considering the number of debutants we had against the best team on the planet, we looked quite good at times

Muric wasn’t stopping those goals
Trafford is also yet to forge a working partnership/understanding with his central defenders etc but that comes with games

We played some good football at times
Foster looks much better
The likes of Koleosho etc look like good signings

Once the team has settled we will be fine this season I think

Our bench looks very strong for this level, for us, plenty of options for the manager to use

We’re used to losing against City, we’ve scored 1 goal to their 42 in 13 games I think it was

The key is we didn’t roll over for them and the players didn’t let their heads drop and as fans that’s what we want to see
Well in the game with 15 to go at 2-0, competed well all night. Think we’ll be more than fine once we get back to 4 at the back with our best team out.
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:30 pm

Pickles wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:08 pm
The Foster thing is funny. Some of us could tell he was getting up to speed last season and would be better this season. It was pretty obvious his attributes would be well suited to the Prem. He was superb this evening.
Yup , bump the Bristol city match day thread for example

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by warksclaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:31 pm

Claretprinter wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:24 pm
Gumshields....top & bottom set?
..and apparently a cricket box

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:33 pm

jdrobbo wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:13 pm
Rodri is an unbelievable footballer. Absolutely world-class.
Best player in world football for me

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Pickles » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:34 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:30 pm
Yup , bump the Bristol city match day thread for example
It was painful seeing some of the opinions on him last season. Not saying he's the second coming, but he showed tonight why some of us could see he'd be good in the Prem. Huge overreaction from people as per. And it wasn't as if we needed his goals last season was it anyway.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:39 pm

I haven' watched (listened to the game), but my guess is that this game and the player selection was viewed as a free hit and an opportunity to test some new players against the best in the league.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by TsarBomba » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:40 pm

Thought we were excellent at times tonight.

-Foster and Al-Dakhil were the standouts. Al-Dakhil is going all the way to the top.

-Need a left back.

-Atmosphere was embarrassing. A few half hearted renditions of ‘No nay never’ and that was about it. Is that really the best we can do? CFS emptied at 35 minutes and again at 80. It’s an equal split in the CFS and there’s no excuse to be getting out-sung. Seems fans would rather go for a pint than clap their team off.

-As VK says, we’ll get better as the season goes on, and on that showing alone tonight, we’ll stay up.

UTC.
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by claretspice » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:41 pm

Decent performance and some interesting performances. Conclusions;
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- Foster and Amdouni looked very promising and with a goal or two will give us useful options up front.

- Koleosho looks lively but a little raw

- we need a left back

- we have loads of pace at the back, which is great but particularly from set pieces there may be a bit of a lack of a controlling mind.
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:48 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:40 pm
Thought we were excellent at times tonight.

-Foster and Al-Dakhil were the standouts. Al-Dakhil is going all the way to the top.

-Need a left back.

-Atmosphere was embarrassing. A few half hearted renditions of ‘No nay never’ and that was about it. Is that really the best we can do? CFS emptied at 35 minutes and again at 80. It’s an equal split in the CFS and there’s no excuse to be getting out-sung. Seems fans would rather go for a pint than clap their team off.

-As VK says, we’ll get better as the season goes on, and on that showing alone tonight, we’ll stay up.

UTC.
Atmosphere in longside lower towards the cricketfield end was really good I thought - especially in the first half.

Needs the rest of the ground to get involved and try starting chants (unfortunately we do get a lot of plastic every time we’re in the Prem)

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by JohnDearyMe » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:51 pm

claretspice wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:41 pm
Decent performance and some interesting performances. Conclusions;
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- Foster and Amdouni looked very promising and with a goal or two will give us useful options up front.

- Koleosho looks lively but a little raw

- we need a left back

- we have loads of pace at the back, which is great but particularly from set pieces there may be a bit of a lack of a controlling mind.
Fingers crossed Maatsen is lined up and i was surprised to see Koleosho start ahead of Zaroury but c'est la vie

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by pauliopaulio » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:54 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:33 pm
Best player in world football for me
You quoted someone and I’m quoting you but would nuance it as the best in his position. He is operating at a different level to other top class players. He is always in the perfect position in both defence and attack - it’s like he has a sixth sense.

Same as Haaland - his instinct is unbelievable.

Think Foden could be at that level too in the future. Showed him in the prelims doing kick-ups. Was like that video of Maradona at Napoli - effortless.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by louieollie » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:54 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:51 pm
Fingers crossed Maatsen is lined up and i was surprised to see Koleosho start ahead of Zaroury but c'est la vie

I think Koleosho's performance answered his selection personally, raw but exciting.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Pickles » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:56 pm

pauliopaulio wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:54 pm
You quoted someone and I’m quoting you but would nuance it as the best in his position. He is operating at a different level to other top class players. He is always in the perfect position in both defence and attack - it’s like he has a sixth sense.
A very good summary of him. Countless times tonight he comes away with the ball, seemingly without doing anything to win it. It looks like a lucky bounce, good fortune... but it happens so often it can't be a fluke.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Goalposts » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:58 pm

very positive from nearly all players, all put a shift in.. vithino at leftback is not the answer for the season ahead ( or wing back, whatever you want to call it). The 3 centre halves performed admirably. Al dakhil is a rolls Royce of a player. Cullen and berge will form a strong partnership , Trafford at the moment for me is not the best goalkeeper. He will be long term but at present, muric beats him on quicker decision making and playing evenly spreading left and right and long ball pings. Foster looked good , but that’s the thing with him, there is so much potential, can it be unlocked, but definitely worth persevering with. Koelsho will be some player can only get better… amdouni needs to get up to pace with prem, but again so much potential.. benny worry’s me a little bit seems a very injury prone player but makes an instant impact when introduced…. Hopefully buyers injury is minor , worrying that he signalled 3 times to be taken off before he was. A player signalling is never a good thing..

But great to be back under the lights. Oh and zaroury innocuous foul , but both feet of the ground so deemed not in full control so under the rules straight red..

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:00 pm

pauliopaulio wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:54 pm
You quoted someone and I’m quoting you but would nuance it as the best in his position. He is operating at a different level to other top class players. He is always in the perfect position in both defence and attack - it’s like he has a sixth sense.

Same as Haaland - his instinct is unbelievable.

Think Foden could be at that level too in the future. Showed him in the prelims doing kick-ups. Was like that video of Maradona at Napoli - effortless.
Honestly I don’t rate Foden as an effective top class player.

He has a lot of skill and looks unbelievable in warm ups and stuff but I’ve yet to see him constantly impact them game in a way that a top player does.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by AfloatinClaret » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:01 pm

We have pace all over the pitch. Only significant improvement we might have made was Taylor at left back, though we'd still have lost. Team performance bodes well for the season, I'm more optimistic than I was before the game.

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by martin_p » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:06 pm

First time I’ve come off a 3-0 defeat more confident about the season to come than I was before it.
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by JohnDearyMe » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:06 pm

louieollie wrote:
Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:54 pm
I think Koleosho's performance answered his selection personally, raw but exciting.
He looks like he has promise, was just surprised to see him as one of 5 debutants above Zaroury who has impressed, knows the system well and has more English football experience. Sure it wouldn't have made much of a difference either way
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:11 pm

With Foster and Koleosho out wide it gave us pace to close down faster . I think perhaps Foster was utilised there to try and limit Walkers pace as well.

Fosters work rate and press was good tonight, he won the ball back on a few occasions and I was impressed with him.

Amdouni, I must say again looks like he could be a real player.

Koleosho , 18 years old , no fear worked hard and gave everything against arguably the best team in the world. His passing was questionable but it will improve .

Some good performances .
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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by pauliopaulio » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:28 pm

I still think we’ll finish top 10. Moments of quality for them at the back and up front were the difference. Most teams don’t have that

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Re: Key points from tonight’s game

Post by louieollie » Fri Aug 11, 2023 11:30 pm

I'm really quite positive from seeing a number of the new signings and a couple that needed time to adjust from last year, like the majority on here as much as I love little Vits we desperately need another answer to the left back/wing back option and I don't see it being Taylor I'm afraid.

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