Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by paderbornclaret » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:33 pm

Another here for Crewe away 87.... that evening brought it all home.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Claretitus » Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:40 pm

Tonight, after watching us succumb to another defeat against a team we would have comfortably beaten last season. Keeper badly at fault for their winning goal, dry bummed yet again by VAR. First it’s a goal, the Green line, then they continually look for a reason not to give a goal. The handball, not even reviewed by VAR. There’s an agenda for sure, and it hurts at the moment, to support “Little Old Burnley” No one likes us? For sure not in the Premier League they don’t. UTC

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Nori1958 » Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:39 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 6:47 pm
Sadly only mentally.
If that's the lowest you've been you're either 6 or just posting rubbish

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by bfcjg » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:10 am

Nori1958 wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:39 pm
If that's the lowest you've been you're either 6 or just posting rubbish
I really do think you are a very sad individual and I get your angst, I have called you out and humiliated you after your rather tedious anti Burnley posts,your awful recollection of facts , your somewhat bizarre football knowledge and desperation to be relevant. FYI I posted this;" Dreadful times in the old fourth prior to Mullen bringing us back to life, worst was 86-87 season you really had to be there to realise just how dire and desperate times were then. I think our generation sometimes get ridiculed for a cautious approach but wreckless spending and a dire board of directors coupled with horrendous managers got us into that mess."
not bad for somebody aged 6 in infants unless of course you believe in reincarnation.
If so were you a court jester ?

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:30 am

Claretitus wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 8:40 pm
There’s an agenda for sure, and it hurts at the moment, to support “Little Old Burnley” No one likes us? For sure not in the Premier League they don’t. UTC
Absolute f***ing horseshit.
So why are they wanting Bournemouth to win over us?
Aren't they small too? Smaller than us?
Why is there an agenda against us?

I'm getting rather fed up of this whingeing boll0cks about some kind of conspiracy against us just cos we're Burnley. Bottom line is we're crap at the moment.

Utter drivel.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:25 am

bfcjg wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:10 am
I really do think you are a very sad individual and I get your angst, I have called you out and humiliated you after your rather tedious anti Burnley posts,your awful recollection of facts , your somewhat bizarre football knowledge and desperation to be relevant. FYI I posted this;" Dreadful times in the old fourth prior to Mullen bringing us back to life, worst was 86-87 season you really had to be there to realise just how dire and desperate times were then. I think our generation sometimes get ridiculed for a cautious approach but wreckless spending and a dire board of directors coupled with horrendous managers got us into that mess."
not bad for somebody aged 6 in infants unless of course you believe in reincarnation.
If so were you a court jester ?
I think you are thinking of someone else, I don't think I have ever made an anti Burnley post, mostly the opposite I would say

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by StayingDown4Ever » Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:37 am

bfcjg wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:10 am
I really do think you are a very sad individual and I get your angst, I have called you out and humiliated you after your rather tedious anti Burnley posts,your awful recollection of facts , your somewhat bizarre football knowledge and desperation to be relevant. FYI I posted this;" Dreadful times in the old fourth prior to Mullen bringing us back to life, worst was 86-87 season you really had to be there to realise just how dire and desperate times were then. I think our generation sometimes get ridiculed for a cautious approach but wreckless spending and a dire board of directors coupled with horrendous managers got us into that mess."
not bad for somebody aged 6 in infants unless of course you believe in reincarnation.
If so were you a court jester ?
I think you are the one who will be humiliated here.

Nori is one of them who can’t hear a bad word said about anyone or anything to do with the club. It’s highly frustrating in that he’ll still defend people like Trafford when he’s so obviously pony but I don’t ever recall seeing any anti Burnley posts from him.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Claretmisterg » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:14 am

dougcollins wrote:
Sat Oct 28, 2023 11:27 am
You can call it that if you wish.

There were plenty that didn't go on. The day was a media circus of vultures.
I can empathise dc. I chose not to go because I thought we were doomed and I couldn’t bear to watch it.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by CaptJohn » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:35 am

It has to be the loss away to Crewe.
I was devastated, distraught and lost. My uncle owned the "Gresty Road" chippy on the corner coming away from the ground. I can recall going in but I can't remember if I spoke to him, got any chips or ate anything. It was a horrible time.
The other low point was Stockport away in 88. I got caught up in the battle behind the goals and finished up with a badly split lip. It was only a couple of days after my son was born and it was the following day that the midwife patched me up and gave me a few words of wisdom about being responsible, now that I had a son :(

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by BleedingClaret » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:40 am

It’s certainly not now, if that’s where this is trying to lead us
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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Nori1958 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:49 am

BleedingClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:40 am
It’s certainly not now, if that’s where this is trying to lead us
That was my point when someone was posting that yesterdays performance/result was up there with the bad times
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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:51 am

Most of the 80's

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Oct 29, 2023 11:16 am

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 1:30 am
Absolute f***ing horseshit.
So why are they wanting Bournemouth to win over us?
Aren't they small too? Smaller than us?
Why is there an agenda against us?

I'm getting rather fed up of this whingeing boll0cks about some kind of conspiracy against us just cos we're Burnley. Bottom line is we're crap at the moment.

Utter drivel.
You are right. We deserved nothing yesterday but sport in general is rife with corruption; the more money involved the greater the chance of it. That isn't drivel.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Chester Perry » Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:31 pm

The lowest points for me have nothing to do with what's on the pitch - however frustrated and sometimes angry I feel about it - and there have been plenty of those that make the current situation seem nothing more than a disappointment - as has already be said we support our team through good and bad, but the following events have nothing to do with football other than the actions of a few have perhaps forever tarnished the reputation of the rest of us

For me - and in date order

The attack on Jimmy Mullen's wife
The manslaughter of a Nottingham Forest Fan in Burnley Town centre
The aeroplane over the Etihad
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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by sjb » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:18 pm

Losing 1-8 at West Brom in 67/8
73/4 Semi Final at Hillsborough
The Wimbledon FA Cup debacle
Every defeat to that lot down the M65
Watching us lose away games at Hartlepool & Torquay in the space of 4 days in 85/6

But worst of all Crewe away 86/7. Absolute despondency & a journey home made in almost total silence.

Losing a PL game at Bournemouth would be way down the list.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by CnBtruntru » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:33 pm

Your lowest point as a Burnley fan, it could be this season ;)

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by CnBtruntru » Sun Oct 29, 2023 2:35 pm

Joking

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by SouthLondonexile » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:10 pm

RMutt wrote:
Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:41 pm
I once went down the Big Pit in South Wales.
😀I’m going down there in three weeks. Is a 6 ft 4 inch man going to struggle. Oh is Leighton James a tour guide there?

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by SouthLondonexile » Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pm

A few low points really, perhaps being beaten 8 - 0 at Tottenham or learning that Spurs had bought Ralph Coates.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by sjb » Sun Oct 29, 2023 4:07 pm

SouthLondonexile wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:15 pm
A few low points really, perhaps being beaten 8 - 0 at Tottenham or learning that Spurs had bought Ralph Coates.
7-0 I think

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by BleedingClaret » Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:18 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 8:49 am
That was my point when someone was posting that yesterdays performance/result was up there with the bad times
I mean just the fact that we're in the top division, we've been bottom of the bottom, looking at non league.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by RMutt » Mon Oct 30, 2023 3:35 pm

SouthLondonexile wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:10 pm
😀I’m going down there in three weeks. Is a 6 ft 4 inch man going to struggle. Oh is Leighton James a tour guide there?
I’m sure you’ll be fine but don’t wear your platform shoes. I think Brian Flynn might be more suited down there! They turned all the lights off at one point, it was unbelievably black. The darkest thing you will ever experience I would imagine.
Have a great time!
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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:44 am

Chester Perry wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:31 pm
The lowest points for me have nothing to do with what's on the pitch - however frustrated and sometimes angry I feel about it - and there have been plenty of those that make the current situation seem nothing more than a disappointment - as has already be said we support our team through good and bad, but the following events have nothing to do with football other than the actions of a few have perhaps forever tarnished the reputation of the rest of us

For me - and in date order

The attack on Jimmy Mullen's wife
The manslaughter of a Nottingham Forest Fan in Burnley Town centre
The aeroplane over the Etihad

What happened to Jimmy Mullen's wife - the truth not the myth
You do realise it was a Man City fan that went to prison for the manslaughter of the Forest fan don't you ?

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by RicardoMontalban » Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:52 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:44 am
What happened to Jimmy Mullen's wife - the truth not the myth
You do realise it was a Man City fan that went to prison for the manslaughter of the Forest fan don't you ?
Don’t think that’s true about the Forest fan’s killer. Here’s an article about the fan in question being sent back to prison and it states he was a member of our hooligan element, and he got pinched again for breaking his football banning order… outside Turf Moor.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/ ... hind-bars/

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:54 am

RicardoMontalban wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:52 am
Don’t think that’s true about the Forest fan’s killer. Here’s an article about the fan in question being sent back to prison and it states he was a member of our hooligan element, and he got pinched again for breaking his football banning order… outside Turf Moor.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/ ... hind-bars/
He is mates with the younger idiot element at our club but is a Man City season ticket holder.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by RicardoMontalban » Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:01 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:54 am
He is mates with the younger idiot element at our club but is a Man City season ticket holder.

Both the LT and Mirror reference him as being a member of the SS and getting caught outside a the Turf at the first match after he got out in 2006. Might be a City ticket holder now, he’s about 40 now going off the reports, and he might be reformed character. Back in 2002 when the killing occurred I’m doubtful he was anything other than a Burnley hooligan, and even just saying he was mates with the younger lot is splitting hairs a bit in this instance.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Sleeping Cat » Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:09 am

Waddle season was one long low. On the back of what had been a successful and enjoyable period for the club from 89/90, I remember feeling we had lost our way were heading back towards the abyss.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by RicardoMontalban » Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:16 am

Football wise the Waddle season without a doubt.

I’d started supporting us in division 4 but after the Orient season so every year felt like a steady climb back up the leagues, but that was the first time it felt like it was about to come undone. Even the season in D1 under Mullen felt like a part of the learning curve. Waddle was just abject and the feeling after the Oldham game was just dread. I thought we were down.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Tribesmen » Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:44 am

Yer the semi final v Newcastle , the trip home on the train was as bad as anything .

Just makes me sad thinking about the whole day .

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Tue Oct 31, 2023 11:58 am

Walking away from Gresty Rd after the 1-0 defeat meaning we needed a miracle to stay in the football league the following Saturday

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:03 pm

I actually think those that went to Crewe that day in 1987 still actually carry some mental scaring from it
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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by jlup1980 » Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:05 pm

The Waddle season was just farcical and not winning a game under Cotterill for what felt like a lifetime wasn't much fun.

Personally though, our first season under Stan had some real low points. I remember thinking we were doomed in February / March after a dreadful run of displays. Just looking back at the results sends shivers down my spine. We were 15th going into February; six weeks later we were 21st after this run of results and it was looking more than a bit bleak. The three home defeats in a row without scoring were painful.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:30 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Sun Oct 29, 2023 12:31 pm
The lowest points for me have nothing to do with what's on the pitch - however frustrated and sometimes angry I feel about it - and there have been plenty of those that make the current situation seem nothing more than a disappointment - as has already be said we support our team through good and bad, but the following events have nothing to do with football other than the actions of a few have perhaps forever tarnished the reputation of the rest of us

For me - and in date order

The attack on Jimmy Mullen's wife
The manslaughter of a Nottingham Forest Fan in Burnley Town centre
The aeroplane over the Etihad
There wasn't an attack on Mullen's wife, there were some kids messing around with a lighter. It was NOT football related.
The person in question was very definitely a City fan at the time as has been posted
Agree with the third one
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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by RicardoMontalban » Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:12 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:30 pm
There wasn't an attack on Mullen's wife, there were some kids messing around with a lighter. It was NOT football related.
The person in question was very definitely a City fan at the time as has been posted
Agree with the third one
I find it strange how all the newspaper reports at the time of the incident cite the offender as not just being a Burnley Fan, but a member of the youth bit of our hooligan firm. Not just the local press, but the national press quoting the prosecution’s courtroom arguments.

Then again, in 2006 when he went back to prison for breaking his banning order by being outside Turf Moor, he’s described as a Burnley hooligan. There doesn’t seem to be any mention of him supporting City anywhere of record.

But really, what does that matter? Some lad lost his life from a senseless act of violence, and the smudge on the perception of our club remains. It happened amongst supporters of our club and Forest in a pub in our town centre and was done by someone who at the very least was closely associated to our young morons. Which isn’t great and not much of a reprieve for Burnley.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Chester Perry » Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:26 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 1:30 pm
There wasn't an attack on Mullen's wife, there were some kids messing around with a lighter. It was NOT football related.
The person in question was very definitely a City fan at the time as has been posted
Agree with the third one
I appreciate the far from unimportant detail, but It still only leaves the addition of a single word and the list and the subsequent ongoing impact remain strong

The alleged attack on Jimmy Mullen's wife
The manslaughter of a Nottingham Forest Fan in Burnley Town centre
The aeroplane over the Etihad

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:06 pm

Chester Perry wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 2:26 pm
I appreciate the far from unimportant detail, but It still only leaves the addition of a single word and the list and the subsequent ongoing impact remain strong

The alleged attack on Jimmy Mullen's wife
The manslaughter of a Nottingham Forest Fan in Burnley Town centre
The aeroplane over the Etihad
There was NO attack on Jimmy Mullen's wife. There were kids messing with a lighter close to her and, as I've said, were young kids who had no idea who she was.
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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Coates4england » Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:21 pm

Willie Irvine breaking his leg.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Nori1958 » Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:28 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:06 pm
There was NO attack on Jimmy Mullen's wife. There were kids messing with a lighter close to her and, as I've said, were young kids who had no idea who she was.
In a chip shop if I remember correctly

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:36 pm

Nori1958 wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:28 pm
In a chip shop if I remember correctly
Briercliffe Road area I believe

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by Enola Gay » Tue Oct 31, 2023 6:36 pm

The 19-game run under Cotterill drove me closer to giving up regular matchgoing than anything else since my debut in 1986. A deconstruction of the idea of football as entertainment.

Before that the closest had been the two-season double-whammy of 1988/89 and 1989/90. Two consecutive 16th-place finishes in Division Four says it all.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by HollandsPies » Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:36 pm
Briercliffe Road area I believe
Was the Golden Orange.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by HollandsPies » Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:02 pm

Crewe - all day long

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:08 pm

Going in to the last chance Orient game realising the club could drop out of the league was huge.
Owen Coyle sneaking off and the subsequent poor effort to support Brian Laws (regardless of his ability) was another.

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by bfcjg » Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:09 pm

HollandsPies wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 7:02 pm
Was the Golden Orange.
Do we have to bring Phil Brown into it ? 😁
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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by PaintYorkClaretnBlue » Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:26 pm

THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:03 pm
I actually think those that went to Crewe that day in 1987 still actually carry some mental scaring from it
I was there, the ref blew up early too if I remember rightly, it compounded the pain because we were pressing for an equaliser!

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Re: Your lowest point as a Burnley fan

Post by IanMcL » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:13 am

Pre-Orient when oblivion was a distinct possibility.

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