January transfer window rumours.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:28 pm

No idea how reliable but rumour on Twitter Redmond wants to return to Besiktas.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:29 pm

Turkish media saying Redmond wants to go back to besiktas to

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by JimmyRobbo » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:35 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:40 pm
I see nothing in Brereton's career to suggest he'll be a Premier League striker...he had one good season at Blackburn. They'd have been better hanging on to Billy Sharp.
When we were linked with BBD I though it was underwhelming but recognised we were shoty up top. I certainly don't see him as starting material in the prem but he may be a better attacking otion than JayRod.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:39 pm

Can’t blame Redmond can’t imagine he thought he was going to be a bench warmer at best this season
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:41 pm

He is good that Nixon.

If we sell Twine it will be to the highest bidder

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:08 pm

Redmond one no surprise but he has been good the few times he played.

For all the air of confidence he gives off, I do wonder if Kompany is comfortable managing (and disciplining at times) players only a few years younger than he is. He claims he is, but he turns down chance after chance to sign or play older players with pedigree, in favour of younger ones who often don’t cut it. I can’t figure it out, when the team cries out for experience at times.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:08 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:39 pm
Can’t blame Redmond can’t imagine he thought he was going to be a bench warmer at best this season
We were talking 12 months ago about how we’d potentially be an ‘attractive’ landing spot for players with VK etc… now I’m really not so sure.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Murger » Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:55 pm

Don’t blame Redmond 1 bit for wanting a move. He’s been vastly underused.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by JimmyRobbo » Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:05 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:08 pm
We were talking 12 months ago about how we’d potentially be an ‘attractive’ landing spot for players with VK etc… now I’m really not so sure.
For young players, I think we woulc still be.
For older players, probably not.
Mony talks in every situation along with inividual circumstances.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Woodleyclaret » Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:31 pm

Redmond has been poor when played brought on to impact games he doesn't
Sell him on we can do better
Let's not forget we are Premier league and still a draw.Some of the posters on here behave like we are back in the 80s when players did give us the knock back.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by boyyanno » Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:44 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:31 pm
Redmond has been poor when played brought on to impact games he doesn't
Sell him on we can do better
Let's not forget we are Premier league and still a draw.Some of the posters on here behave like we are back in the 80s when players did give us the knock back.
He's played 130 minutes for us. He's had no opportunity to impact games because he's hardly been on the pitch, but even in the small amount of times I've seen him he hasn't been "poor".

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by boyyanno » Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:50 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:08 pm
Redmond one no surprise but he has been good the few times he played.

For all the air of confidence he gives off, I do wonder if Kompany is comfortable managing (and disciplining at times) players only a few years younger than he is. He claims he is, but he turns down chance after chance to sign or play older players with pedigree, in favour of younger ones who often don’t cut it. I can’t figure it out, when the team cries out for experience at times.
I've commented on this to a friend recently. Another of couple of things that back that up imo:

His own comments: I seem to remember him doing an interview where he talked about his preference for working with young players etc.

The video of that rollicking he gave out when at Anderlecht, just didn't seem like the kind of thing older players would respond too.

The fact he's tried to ween out some of the more experienced players. Brownhill, Taylor etc but eventually had to use them, but it didn't seem to be his initial preference.

Obviously it could be nonsense but it's possible he finds younger players easier to manage/mould with his style, whereas maybe Dyche would have struggled more with a younger player but got the type of application he wanted from a more senior pro. I think it's an interesting discussion.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Owdsyker » Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:51 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:31 pm
Redmond has been poor when played brought on to impact games he doesn't
Sell him on we can do better
Let's not forget we are Premier league and still a draw.Some of the posters on here behave like we are back in the 80s when players did give us the knock back.
I agree, he really should be doing more in his alloted 5 minutes.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:04 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:05 pm
For young players, I think we woulc still be.
For older players, probably not.
Mony talks in every situation along with inividual circumstances.
Not sure. Play decent for a season then get potentially froze out?

Money does talk of course - but we don't know everything that happens behind the scenes...

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:03 pm

Djed Spence loan has been cut short at Leeds.

Is he someone VK might fancy

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:19 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:03 pm
Djed Spence loan has been cut short at Leeds.

Is he someone VK might fancy
Thought the same, 2 full backs been recalled to spurs, obviously we would only be able to sign 1 on loan, I would choose regiluon over spence

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:22 pm

Redmond was also injured for nearly 6 weeks.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:25 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:19 pm
Thought the same, 2 full backs been recalled to spurs, obviously we would only be able to sign 1 on loan, I would choose regiluon over spence
I imagine spurs will send reguillon to Spain

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:28 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:25 pm
I imagine spurs will send reguillon to Spain
Yeah don’t for one second think he’s a target I would just prefer him over Spence

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:29 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:28 pm
Yeah don’t for one second think he’s a target I would just prefer him over Spence
Oh 100%

Be interesting to see whether VK goes for either.

Tbh he could probably get Spence on a pretty cheap deal

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:32 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:29 pm
Oh 100%

Be interesting to see whether VK goes for either.

Tbh he could probably get Spence on a pretty cheap deal
Rumours of roberts to Leeds

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:34 pm

Roberts is a dead wierd one. His record in the championship is pretty special but he just can’t quite make the step up.

Got to imagine VK would want to keep him around just for next season if nothing else

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by GetIntoEm » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:35 pm

Heard Roberts to Leeds too, and apparently they've sent Spence back. Not recalled

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by FeedTheArf » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:35 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:28 pm
No idea how reliable but rumour on Twitter Redmond wants to return to Besiktas.
Probably for the best. He’ll be at the higher end of our earners you’d imagine and contributing very little - not necessarily through any fault of his own.

Let’s free up a wage and strengthen in other positions.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:39 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 9:34 pm
Roberts is a dead wierd one. His record in the championship is pretty special but he just can’t quite make the step up.

Got to imagine VK would want to keep him around just for next season if nothing else
He is a weird one because underwhelming when he signed but a number of factors, his health and our squad at the time and seemed like he struggled to settle outside of wales.
Wasn’t great before the World Cup last season but then from world up onwards he was probably the best full back in the league, he will probs jump at a move to Leeds

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Goliath » Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:09 pm

Roberts is a rubbish defender with decent technical ability. We got away with him in the champ because he didnt have to defend much, hes a car crash at this level. We desperately need a right back so selling Roberts makes total sense.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by warksclaret » Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:10 pm

Would be sad if Roberts goes-he had some cracking games last season and cant but feel he has been made to pay by VK for his sending off earlier this season. Can only assume we have a stellar RB lined up, because for me Vitinho has too many off days

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Post by KRBFC » Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:30 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:10 pm
cant but feel he has been made to pay by VK for his sending off earlier this season.
Or he’s being made to pay for the fact he’s been tripe all season, the sending off was just the icing on a foul tasting cake. After 3 different managers, 2 PL seasons, my verdict is he’s simply not at the required standard.
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Post by Westleigh » Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:45 pm

Dyche might make a bid for Redmond after McNeil apparently has been badly injured tonight.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:50 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:45 pm
Dyche might make a bid for Redmond after McNeil apparently has been badly injured tonight.
Bad news for him........he's been playing very well.
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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:04 pm

No problem losing Roberts as long as we upgrade that position. Arguably our most vital position to upgrade. Lost track of the games where opponents have lumped it into that area of the pitch to target our main weakness.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:10 am

Goliath wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:09 pm
Roberts is a rubbish defender with decent technical ability. We got away with him in the champ because he didnt have to defend much, hes a car crash at this level. We desperately need a right back so selling Roberts makes total sense.
He was bought to replace Lowton who i thought at the time was playing better than him, they thought they were upgrading, wrong!

Passengers galore at this level, add to that Brownhill and Vitinho. Effectively playing with nine able men when they all play as they just dont do anything much but run around, Vintinho does occasionally make a good run forward but inevitably loses the ball somewhere dangerous making him worse than Brownhill at that as then he is totally out of position somewhere up the field.

If we can strengthen those positions we have a chance of staying up in two seasons time if we yo yo.

Its a shame VK didnt realise this before the season started as i predicted if we didnt strengthen centre midfield in its entirety we would likely get relegated.

He had too much confidence in Cullen also but even he is now dropped.

Why didnt Jackson tell him? makes me wonder what the communication is like at the training ground.

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Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:15 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 2:39 pm
Can’t blame Redmond can’t imagine he thought he was going to be a bench warmer at best this season
I know his sub appearances have been Vydra esque but i remember one instance where he passed the ball meekly out of play to no one, it was in front of bob lord, obviously didnt impress VK, who seems to make his mind up about players and doesnt give them chance to get back in once his mind is made up.

Looks like the MUD super computer has realised we have a stupid amount of left wingers. :shock:

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Post by Goliath » Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:24 am

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:10 am
He was bought to replace Lowton who i thought at the time was playing better than him, they thought they were upgrading, wrong!

Passengers galore at this level, add to that Brownhill and Vitinho. Effectively playing with nine able men when they all play as they just dont do anything much but run around, Vintinho does occasionally make a good run forward but inevitably loses the ball somewhere dangerous making him worse than Brownhill at that as then he is totally out of position somewhere up the field.

If we can strengthen those positions we have a chance of staying up in two seasons time if we yo yo.

Its a shame VK didnt realise this before the season started as i predicted if we didnt strengthen centre midfield in its entirety we would likely get relegated.

He had too much confidence in Cullen also but even he is now dropped.

Why didnt Jackson tell him? makes me wonder what the communication is like at the training ground.
Yep but i doubt he was brought in by Dyche, for one he never played him and two he couldn't be any less of a Dyche type player. Not often Dyche ended up hauling a full back off because they were getting the run around like he did against Richarlison for Everton at home.
Jackson obviously had 0 faith in him either, which showed when he stuck Collins at RB and Roberts RW for our relegation decider v Newcastle.
So its a fair point you make there, I initially thought Jackson was there out of loyalty from Pace but Kompany has mentioned that he is the guy who coaches the defence so he obviously has more input than id have expected. That worries me slightly because Im not sure he really has the credentials to be coaching a Premier League back 4 and the evidence suggests the same.

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Post by TopCat » Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:10 am

Not really related, but saw that there were 333 replies.
Now that conjures up images of the past.
Still shows just how far we have come from those days.

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Post by Westleigh » Fri Jan 05, 2024 8:13 am

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:10 am
He was bought to replace Lowton who i thought at the time was playing better than him, they thought they were upgrading, wrong!

Passengers galore at this level, add to that Brownhill and Vitinho. Effectively playing with nine able men when they all play as they just dont do anything much but run around, Vintinho does occasionally make a good run forward but inevitably loses the ball somewhere dangerous making him worse than Brownhill at that as then he is totally out of position somewhere up the field.

If we can strengthen those positions we have a chance of staying up in two seasons time if we yo yo.

Its a shame VK didnt realise this before the season started as i predicted if we didnt strengthen centre midfield in its entirety we would likely get relegated.

He had too much confidence in Cullen also but even he is now dropped.

Why didnt Jackson tell him? makes me wonder what the communication is like at the training ground.
In todays football the way the fullbacks play have a major impact on games eg TAA and Robertson,our fullbacks are probably the weakest part of our team,they need upgrading.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Pickles » Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:01 am

We need four new full backs.

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Post by BigGaz » Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:43 am

The consensus I’ve seen about Spence is that he thinks he’s a right Charlie Big Potatoes and has quite an abrasive personality.

I’m not sure he’s a good fit. Weghorst mk2 with less pedigree to back it up.

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Post by TopCat » Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:55 am

BigGaz wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:43 am
The consensus I’ve seen about Spence is that he thinks he’s a right Charlie Big Potatoes and has quite an abrasive personality.

I’m not sure he’s a good fit. Weghorst mk2 with less pedigree to back it up.
He must have something about him to get a move to Spurs.

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Post by burnleymik » Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:37 am

warksclaret wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 10:10 pm
Would be sad if Roberts goes-he had some cracking games last season and cant but feel he has been made to pay by VK for his sending off earlier this season. Can only assume we have a stellar RB lined up, because for me Vitinho has too many off days
I think Roberts is more in the mould of Taylor and is a traditional RB. It's been harsh to judge him on the role VK has wanted him to play this season, especially in the best league in the world.

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Post by bumba » Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:51 am

Not sure why Egan-Riley doesn't get a try at right back if he's fit but for me I'd move Beyer to right back he'd be more suited to the role VK wants to play then put a better defender such as Ekdal at centre back

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Post by SalisburyClaret » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:03 pm

Be sad to see Roberts go. He has a brilliant engine, has loads of experience and isn’t afraid to stand up for himself. Another of our international defenders who can’t get a game.

If he is replaced we need an experienced defender, not some flyweight that the software recommends as good value

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Rick_Muller » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:04 pm

Could Roberts leaving enable WW to return...? :D
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Post by TopCat » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:35 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:04 pm
Could Roberts leaving enable WW to return...? :D
At RB?
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Post by Cap » Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:49 pm

TopCat wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:35 pm
At RB?
In the mould of Dan Burn 😉

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Post by colne-claret » Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:01 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 11:51 am
Not sure why Egan-Riley doesn't get a try at right back if he's fit but for me I'd move Beyer to right back he'd be more suited to the role VK wants to play then put a better defender such as Ekdal at centre back
So take our best centre back and play him right back? Yeah can’t see that happening.

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Post by Westleigh » Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:39 pm

I thought VK had brought him back in from the cold after his serious illness ,and he did well as an inverted fullback but for some reason seemed a bit of a loner and never looked particularly happy ,he’s probably even more unhappier now he’s not really get much of a look in.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by bumba » Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:06 pm

colne-claret wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:01 pm
So take our best centre back and play him right back? Yeah can’t see that happening.
He's been out worst centre back this season and by some margin. I loved Beyer last season and thought he'd step up the easiest but he's been a long way off defensively.

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by TopCat » Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:34 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:06 pm
He's been out worst centre back this season and by some margin. I loved Beyer last season and thought he'd step up the easiest but he's been a long way off defensively.
So Delcroix, O'Shea and Al Dakhil are all better than Beyer this season?

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Re: January transfer window rumours.

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:39 pm

TopCat wrote:
Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:55 am
He must have something about him to get a move to Spurs.
One good season at Boro. When he left Jones came in and looked much better.

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