January transfer window rumours.

[Clive 1960]

Danny Ings on loan is a rumour going around..

[Nori1958]

Danny Ings on loan is a rumour going around..

Hopefully he's going to wolves

[Clive 1960]

Hopefully he's going to wolves

if he can keep fit knows where the net is and would link up well with Foster..

[elwaclaret]

The point was about our record of signing players from villa. Neither of them worked out, whatever the reason, whilst they were with us. What they did after is irrelevant. Agreed though, I thought there was a decent player in both of them whilst they were here, Lee moreso than Whittingham. Neither was great for us though.

Agreed, but the argument is also about judging players too early.

There are many others I remember being caned, not least Marney.I also remember a Brandon O’Connell going on loan (Huddersfield swap with Paul Barnes) when he came back after some better training he already looked twice the player we saw when he had been with us prior. We had fallen way behind a lot of clubs in updating training ideas and facilities, which certainly did not help young players coming in.

[Quickenthetempo]

if he can keep fit knows where the net is and would link up well with Foster..

A West Ham fan I know says Ings just can't get around the pitch anymore. The injuries have caught up with him.

I can't say I even noticed him playing against us.

[Clive 1960]

A West Ham fan I know says Ings just can't get around the pitch anymore. The injuries have caught up with him.

I can't say I even noticed him playing against us.

we need another striker if Foster is out with the ankle injury he picked at Spurs unless Larsen is the answer..

[Westleigh]

Danny Ings on loan is a rumour going around..

No chance Ings coming back until Nino’s is open again ( he was never away)

[123EasyasBFC]

Danny Ings on loan is a rumour going around..

Yeah rumour going round for wolves not Burnley

[Holtyclaret]

we need another striker if Foster is out with the ankle injury he picked at Spurs unless Larsen is the answer..

We need a striker anyway, despite fosters knock but Ings isn’t the answer

[123EasyasBFC]

we need another striker if Foster is out with the ankle injury he picked at Spurs unless Larsen is the answer..

Foster got a foot injury not his ankle as kompany said

[Clive 1960]

Foster got a foot injury not his ankle as kompany said
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so it could be is ankle if it's connected to his foot ..

[Rick_Muller]

Doubt he would be able to step up to the prem yet, but he could be just what we need next season back in the Championship.

I remember similar comments regarding Ivan Toney, not that this lad is anything like Toney, but you can’t discount a player just because they haven’t played in the Prem. Some players can do it.

[Cleveleys_claret]

Would definitely be putting in a cheeky bid for Djed Spence, a few million with lots of add ons. Maybe funded in part by the sale of Roberts. I like Roberts but just don't think he fits. He admits he is a runner but not the best player...a fair assessment.

[Westleigh]

Would definitely be putting in a cheeky bid for Djed Spence, a few million with lots of add ons. Maybe funded in part by the sale of Roberts. I like Roberts but just don't think he fits. He admits he is a runner but not the best player...a fair assessment.

Haven’t you seen recent reports about him? definitely sounds like he has an attitude problem according to Dirty Leeds

[Cleveleys_claret]

Haven’t you seen recent reports about him? definitely sounds like he has an attitude problem according to Dirty Leeds

Yes I have but we need to think outside the box and trust our management team (it's big enough after all). There is an amazing player in there somewhere.

There is also a lot more to the Spence situation, he was 6 to 8 weeks behind when he joined them training wise. At some point he had to take leave from the club due to a family issue in London which Farke said was horrible and one no one would want to go through. Then when he did return because of injuries to Sam Byrom and their other LB he was deployed in that position. So it's probably the culmination of all these things which may have had him not as committed as Farke would have liked. It happens...some moves just don't work out.

At the money I believe we could get him for and a well structured deal in our favour I think this is a signing we could not normally make. It may work it may not, but as long as the deal is done right I don't think we will lose much money on him

[Robbie_painter]

Lowton & Westwood being two

Obviously didn’t want too many on his positive list

[Swizzlestick]

Neither were youngsters when we signed them tbf.

[Ampth7]

I remember similar comments regarding Ivan Toney, not that this lad is anything like Toney, but you can’t discount a player just because they haven’t played in the Prem. Some players can do it.

Oh absolutely no doubting some players can ‘float’ pretty quickly upon entering the prem, but the odds would suggest that it’s more likely to go the other way at this early stage in his career.

Furthermore, this season appears to be his breakout season, so to speak, having done little else goal scoring wise prior to this season with this being his first success at Championship level. Our own experience with the likes of Zaroury, Benson, Twine etc. should be a useful reminder of just how huge a jump it is for a player who has only had 1/2 a good season at a much lower level.

Having said that, if the reported fee is around £4 million, that could be an absolute steal in a few years time, if he kicks on.

[123EasyasBFC]

If we are indeed going after another striker in Jan then one of Jay Rod or obafemi have to be going out he door, squad is packed as it is, we can’t end up with 4 strikers and then Amdouni who can play as a 9

[Woodleyclaret]

I don't understand why Churlinov didn't get on v Spurs.

[alwaysaclaret]

That's it. Write him off after one poor performance against very good opposition. What is it with our fans. Deluded. I'm sure even Kylian Mbappé has a bad day at the office.

Exactly the reason we should write him off, I watched and thought exactly the same, and it's more than likely spurs didn't keep him in the first place. If there's ever a game he should be up for it, it's against their arch rivals in a fa Cup 3rd round cup game, we have enough already that haven't stood up to the plate, we need player's for the here and now to keep us in this league, not another one for the future with no guarantees, got enough of them for now imo.

[pushpinpussy]

Exactly the reason we should write him off, I watched and thought exactly the same, and it's more than likely spurs didn't keep him in the first place. If there's ever a game he should be up for it, it's against their arch rivals in a fa Cup 3rd round cup game, we have enough already that haven't stood up to the plate, we need player's for the here and now to keep us in this league, not another one for the future with no guarantees, got enough of them for now imo.

you have written him off after watching him for one game. just the one game. jesus wept. please take a look at what you are saying. its mental.

[Westleigh]

Yes I have but we need to think outside the box and trust our management team (it's big enough after all). There is an amazing player in there somewhere.

There is also a lot more to the Spence situation, he was 6 to 8 weeks behind when he joined them training wise. At some point he had to take leave from the club due to a family issue in London which Farke said was horrible and one no one would want to go through. Then when he did return because of injuries to Sam Byrom and their other LB he was deployed in that position. So it's probably the culmination of all these things which may have had him not as committed as Farke would have liked. It happens...some moves just don't work out.

At the money I believe we could get him for and a well structured deal in our favour I think this is a signing we could not normally make. It may work it may not, but as long as the deal is done right I don't think we will lose much money on him

I was thinking more about what sort of influence he might have on the young players,but I don’t think that was one of the problems,may be as sound as a pound but just doesn’t like getting up in the morning.

[Nori1958]

I don't understand why Churlinov didn't get on v Spurs.

Was he on the bench?

[Nori1958]

if he can keep fit knows where the net is and would link up well with Foster..

About 5 years ago maybe, did nothing against us

[Steddyman]

if he can keep fit knows where the net is and would link up well with Foster..

He is well past his sell-by date, is a constant sick note, and will cost us a fortune that would be better spent elsewhere. No thanks.

[Nori1958]

Mellon being recalled from morecambe

[Pickles]

Talking about strikers, I'm not so sure I could predict what type we'd be going for. Tempted to say Kompany would want someone nippy, tricky and dinky but then we've sort of already got that.

Part of me thinks Kieffer Moore wouldn't be a bad shout - physical, good from set pieces, neat with the ball - but then probably not.

[AGENT_CLARET]

German giants Borussia Dortmund have reached an agreement to sign Chelsea left-back Ian Maatsen on loan.

[beeholeclaret]

A West Ham fan I know says Ings just can't get around the pitch anymore. The injuries have caught up with him.

I can't say I even noticed him playing against us.

My mate is a ‘Hammer’ and he says Ings has been hopeless this season and has slowed down badly. It’s a shame as he was a great little footballer when clear of injuries.

[Cooclaret]

Mellon being recalled from morecambe

This lad will be the one for us

[Goliath]

My mate is a ‘Hammer’ and he says Ings has been hopeless this season and has slowed down badly. It’s a shame as he was a great little footballer when clear of injuries.

The bits ive seen of him in the last 12 months has actually been a bit sad to watch. He cant move.
He might be ok for us in Amdounis role, he was always technically excellent so may do ok off Foster but he wouldnt be anywhere near the player he was. I really doubt his ability to play regularly football without getting injured as well.

[Nori1958]

This lad will be the one for us

Not this season, he's off out on loan again at higher level

[Westleigh]

Talking about strikers, I'm not so sure I could predict what type we'd be going for. Tempted to say Kompany would want someone nippy, tricky and dinky but then we've sort of already got that.

Part of me thinks Kieffer Moore wouldn't be a bad shout - physical, good from set pieces, neat with the ball - but then probably not.

How about Bamford ?

[123EasyasBFC]

Ings looked like he had put on a lot of muscle at start of pre season, maybe the extra muscle he’s needed for his body to cope has meant his pace has suffered.

Ings isn’t same level as Michael Owen but he’s similar in a away that as soon his pace went and the injuries caught up on him then he was never the same player

[Cooclaret]

Not this season, he's off out on loan again at higher level

Shame for Morecambe, he’s loved there.

[Nori1958]

Shame for Morecambe, he’s loved there.

Certainly is, you would think it would better leaving him at a club where he knows the system, players and staff etc.... Having to start all over again could just set him back a bit.

[Pickles]

Certainly is, you would think it would better leaving him at a club where he knows the system, players and staff etc.... Having to start all over again could just set him back a bit.

Isn't he going to Fleetwood though? Where you imagine he knows Charlie Adam and Ross Wallace and the style they want to play pretty well.

[Nori1958]

Isn't he going to Fleetwood though? Where you imagine he knows Charlie Adam and Ross Wallace and the style they want to play pretty well.

Don't know where he's going.... Scotland was mentioned in the report I've seen

[Hedontplayforyou]

Isn't he going to Fleetwood though? Where you imagine he knows Charlie Adam and Ross Wallace and the style they want to play pretty well.

Fleetwood are struggling in league 1 . New and familiar coaches for Mellon there would make sense but it will be a different test for him in a side struggling to get going this year.

[Goliath]

Ings looked like he had put on a lot of muscle at start of pre season, maybe the extra muscle he’s needed for his body to cope has meant his pace has suffered.

Ings isn’t same level as Michael Owen but he’s similar in a away that as soon his pace went and the injuries caught up on him then he was never the same player

Yep i noticed the same. A lot of players do it, im sure for aesthetic reasons and it can absolutely ruin them as a player. I remember us having that problem with Akinbiyi when he came back, Cotterill banned him from the gym.

[CoolClaret]

That's it. Write him off after one poor performance against very good opposition. What is it with our fans. Deluded. I'm sure even Kylian Mbappé has a bad day at the office.

That’s not quite what I meant and should’ve probably elaborated-

Given the context of the game you’d ideally want one of the supposed best players in the Champ to make a go of it, want to get on the ball, really stand up and be counted for… not be totally anonymous.

He’s 23 now, had a fair few games under his belt - can obviously still improve but I don’t think would add anything to the squad that we don’t already have.

[Westleigh]

How about Bamford ?

Just seen Bamford’s goal today ,impressive he’ll be plucking his violin strings tonight.

[123EasyasBFC]

Connor Bradley young right back at Liverpool we were rumoured to be interested in has had a brilliant little cameo against Arsenal

[Goliath]

Connor Bradley young right back at Liverpool we were rumoured to be interested in has had a brilliant little cameo against Arsenal

Hope he hasnt played too well. Klopp might want to keep him after that

[NewClaret]

Connor Bradley young right back at Liverpool we were rumoured to be interested in has had a brilliant little cameo against Arsenal

Problem is, I can’t see them wanting to sell him & I’m not a fan of a loan at this point. May as well give Vits the experience to get better.

I know he gets some stick but he is improving and for £1m is crazily good value.

[KRBFC]

Man United ?
Roche, Eckerskey, others

O Kane was a United youngster too but he went to Everton initially (for around £800k from memory) and then we signed him from Everton I think. He was one oF THE worst players I have ever seen pull on a burnley shirt !!

On the plus side we signed Dwight from there.


Tbh it’s quite a hard subject to think of as we don’t seem to have signed many youngsters up until recently. And even when we were signing them i find it hard to remember now in a lot of the cases who we signed them from. If they come from a big club like United, Chelsea etc you tend to remember them more as the expectation they will be decent will be higher (or if used to be)

Eagles, Neil Wood, Luke Chadwick from directly United too. Real mixed bag

[timshorts]

Part of me thinks Kieffer Moore wouldn't be a bad shout - physical, good from set pieces, neat with the ball - but then probably not.

With Roberts, maybe. Not much point if vitinho is going to keep the rb job. His crossing isn't up to it.

[GetIntoEm]

Spence refused to go visit kids in hospital on a Leeds community visit. That's why they sent him back. Not someone I'd want, regardless of his talent

[123EasyasBFC]

Problem is, I can’t see them wanting to sell him & I’m not a fan of a loan at this point. May as well give Vits the experience to get better.

I know he gets some stick but he is improving and for £1m is crazily good value.

Yeah a loan is pointless unless it’s an 18 month loan regardless of what league we are in which option to buy at the end