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by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 7:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the club better off now since SD left ?
Replies: 60
Views: 1819

Re: Is the club better off now since SD left ?

Vim Fuego wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 7:45 pm
Read my post again mate. Carefully this time :lol:
Oops, hat off to you sir, and my most sincere apologies. :lol:
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 7:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The derby
Replies: 11
Views: 945

Re: The derby

Another who is not a fan of derbies; having experienced living and working in Preston, living around Rovers fans in Accy and having acquaintances who follow Bolton… it makes me ill for a week, and then you just know they’ll avoid you if we win, crow for weeks if they win (what is likely to be) their...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 7:43 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the club better off now since SD left ?
Replies: 60
Views: 1819

Re: Is the club better off now since SD left ?

Vim Fuego wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 7:39 pm
Quite some time back, you pledged to delete your account if Dyche kept us up. Still here then I see. More is the pity
You are being somewhat disingenuous to suggest sacking SD did not save him from his second relegation, to be fair.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 7:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the club better off now since SD left ?
Replies: 60
Views: 1819

Re: Is the club better off now since SD left ?

So to give you my answer to this question I would say: - Vitinho. He gives his absolute all and often runs half the pitch to get a tackle in. - Berge runs his legs off for the cause too. - Cullen. Furious at Fofana last night for running off early. - Esteve. Joined saying he wanted to stay no matte...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 7:27 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I’ve not watched that, but I know he’s referenced the Packers’ blue collar profile. I’d be astonished if that extended to a comparable ownership model though - publicly owned, nonprofit. Thank you, and at no point did I say it would be an identicated model, but neither do I know it will not, to off...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 7:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barnsey
Replies: 13
Views: 801

Re: Barnsey

They should offer a free, if they believe they need a replacement. He has earned that. However, his experience may well help, in such a situation. As he did with Zaroury and Benson. Do not disagree, and entirely possible… I’m pretty sure VK did not realise his true value until it was too late. He a...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 6:35 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

taio wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 6:29 pm
I don't want you to say it anymore...certainly not free of charge :D
Good, maybe we can get back to the thread, now.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 6:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barnsey
Replies: 13
Views: 801

Re: Barnsey

Targetman wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 6:30 pm
Didn't he sign a 2 year deal?
Not sure, but assuming he did I’d still expect him to move on with a nominal fee, hopefully elsewhere in the Championship.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 6:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

taio wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 6:27 pm
If you don't want to back up your claims with evidence, that is fine. I'll therefore choose to take them with a pinch of salt.
Do not know how often you want me to say it; that’s your choice.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 6:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Barnsey
Replies: 13
Views: 801

Re: Barnsey

expoultryboy wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 5:50 pm
Could be 2 championship promotions on the trot for our Barnsey . Hopefully Norwich give him a chance to play in the prem .
I love Ashley Barnes, always will but I would not expect Norwich to take Ash up with them.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 6:23 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

taio wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 6:20 pm
I don't want your professional services, thanks :lol:
Not sure what is lots of laughs about it, but that is fine. You don’t think information has value, that is fine too.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 6:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

No, I wouldn't pay someone on here to back up their assertions. I couldn't give a toss that you've got a Masters. So do I, as will multiple posters. Your plumber analogy is hilarious. Where have I suggested no one else has a Masters. Do you work for free? This is a chat room, if you want my profess...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 6:12 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

If you mean a plumber then no. But somewhat different to say the least. I can't be arsed, in the same you can't you be arsed, so I'm happy to conclude the comparison with Green Bay Packers is pure fantasy. As I said, your choice… and yes I have made no secret of my dyslexia. So you’d pay someone wh...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 6:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

taio wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 6:04 pm
I'll refrain from paying for your master research, thanks :D
As you wish. Would you expect a Plummer(you did not know) to fit you bathroom for free on a day off…
As I say it should be easy enough to track down, if you can be arsed.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 6:01 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

taio wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 5:47 pm
In that case, I'll continue to take it with a pinch of salt.
Entirely your choice, or make me an offer.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 6:00 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

There’s some superficial similarities between the two towns, sure. But from a sporting landscape perspective the two can’t really be compared. The finite, closed shop nature of the NFL can’t be compared to what we have here in our world. The blue collar narrative of Green Bay can be overstated. Why...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 5:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Sorry, I hadn't realised that they've indicated our club could follow the Green Bay Packers ownership model. Please can you provide a link to what was said because I'd be interested reading it? Sorry cannot remember where I saw it, probably Twitter. While I am not prepared to do the leg work (as th...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 5:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley Scarf Spotted
Replies: 15
Views: 2581

Re: Burnley Scarf Spotted

In the early nineties I was walking from Cambrilles (so) to Salou when a passed a hotel whose balcony among many others had a St. George’s flag with the Burnley legend in the centre. I was pointing it out to my family when someone on the other side of the road shouted “Up the Clarets!”. I obviously ...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 5:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brighton penalty
Replies: 6
Views: 628

Re: Brighton penalty

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 5:27 pm
Well good luck with sorting that 1 out.
Indeed.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 5:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

taio wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 5:20 pm
It would surprise me a lot. Or has there been any suggestions anywhere that this could be considered? If not, any comparison with Green Bay Packers is pie in the sky and into the realms of pure fantasy.
Except it has been mentioned as a model by either JJ or AP on more than one occasion.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 5:26 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Brighton penalty
Replies: 6
Views: 628

Re: Brighton penalty

You aren't supposed to say that it's at odds with the widespread steadfast belief that there's a conspiracy plot involving the PL & VAR behind our ensuing relegation. Not necessarily… to me it suggests the ridiculous inconsistency of refereeing that needs sorting out if the Premier League is to rem...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 5:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 5:16 pm
Sorry, I really don't see how the two situations are remotely similar.
Ok, not sure why, but ok.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 5:19 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fofana
Replies: 41
Views: 3160

Re: Fofana

I don’t think it has worked out after a bright start. I’m not sure he has the right mentality for a small town club; similar to WW. I do not expect a permanent bid even if Chelsea give us the option. Burnley will be once bitten twice shy.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 5:11 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I wonder if Pace would be interested in getting over 500,000 community shareholders of the club and that any future profits are exclusively reinvested into the club. Who knows, would not surprise me at all if JJ sees it as a long term option… has Alan Pace (or anyone else) suggested they want to do...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 5:06 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

We can adopt the Green Bay model by simply becoming the best team in the world. It was a long road… there is a very good documentary (sorry cannot remember the title) that deals with the Green Bay transformation in detail. They had some very rocky years before it turned and fans started seeing the ...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 4:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I'm still failing to see how this is relevant to us or how we could become the Green Bay Packers of (proper) football. A small town struggling to make its way in the economic environment… wealth leaving to take higher paid work (brain drain); their major draw to the town obsolete; Green Bay the fis...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 4:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

I understand the vague similarities between the towns, but how does this translate to the clubs? I don't know what you mean by you seeing a Green Bay scenario as very possible? Green Bay Packers are the most successful American Football team in history. Yet the town/support was dying until they loo...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 4:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Green Bay Packers are guaranteed a "Premier League" place for ever, with no relegation, and are an organisation owned by thousands of individuals who are not allowed to take a profit. Burnley FC have owners who wish to take large amounts of profit and so the necessity of avoiding relegation becomes...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 4:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun May 05, 2024 4:15 pm
What do you mean by a Green Bay scenario?
Green Bay was built on fishing, the town was in terminal decline until the Packers started reaching outside the town , Burnley engineering (due to wool then cotton) all dying/ dead trades in the UK due to globalisation.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 4:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Small world - Claret connections
Replies: 6
Views: 446

Re: Small world - Claret connections

When ai started at Edge Hill (Ormskirk) it was noted I only ever wore Claret and Blue hooped socks (I still do, as I buy them as ‘squad’ packs of 17 pairs every time I need new socks)… it turned out there were at least five clarets (who asked) from all over the country studying their master in ninet...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 4:10 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

No probs, just had to dig back as it’s a couple of weeks since I made that post. But the quote from Pace where he says the deal was incredible was in reference to the financial structure of the takeover, not about the town or club. Not sure about the Green Bay comparison as it’s unlikely we’ll ever...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 4:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: I’m so sick of Kompany
Replies: 400
Views: 20292

Re: I’m so sick of Kompany

Also VK will have lost some of the draw of players wanting to play for him. Last year they were queuing up to sign up, largely because of him, but to the outside world he has lost a fair degree of his credibility I would not say lost. IF you buy into the four year project; staying up was important ...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 3:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover
Replies: 12833
Views: 1281552

Re: ALK Capital or Farnell/Elkashashy takeover

Thanks for digging that out. I can only assume that the incredible bit is how he managed to buy a football club with the opportunity to make huge amounts of money by putting very little on the line. What’s your take? Sorry for jumping on your post to Chester, but… I see it as; they saw not only a t...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 3:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the club better off now since SD left ?
Replies: 60
Views: 1819

Re: Is the club better off now since SD left ?

Question Elwa; do you think Kompany is a manager who buys into Burnley and is proud to be the manager of the club? I think it’s all lip service and Kompany found a club that will but into his brand. It’s become a toxic relationship, I think Kompany is in deep at the club. Sorry it is long but it is...
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 1:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: It sums up the day...
Replies: 1
Views: 896

Re: It sums up the day...

HunterST_BFC wrote:
Sat May 04, 2024 11:49 pm
I thought it couldn't get worse...

... then we have the aweful Vicky Screachy Sparks on our game. MOTD
It’s a pity we didn’t have someone screeching on the pitch.
by elwaclaret
Sun May 05, 2024 1:33 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Is the club better off now since SD left ?
Replies: 60
Views: 1819

Re: Is the club better off now since SD left ?

Very interesting summer ahead. If the majority of the players are with us next season and get back up, possibly. If as I suspect there is another merry-go-round of players then no. At the moment we seem to have a set of players who play for Burnley but don’t really look like they buy into the Burnle...
by elwaclaret
Thu May 02, 2024 10:13 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
Replies: 128
Views: 17500

Re: Forest points deduction appeal

Exactly this. I've been saying it for a while, for two reasons. One, there's no chance they'll want the legal fallout from Forest being relegated by 4 points or less. If the situation remains "as is" after the next two matches, you'll suddenly find that Forest will have 2 points returned in order t...
by elwaclaret
Thu May 02, 2024 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10073
Views: 1074080

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

It will come as no surprise to learn that 777 Partners are talking to a new Private Equity group who specialise in distressed debt about raising finance for their Everton bid or that the finance is linked to the Stadium which has a measurable asset value from Bloomberg Everton Financing Considered ...
by elwaclaret
Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Issues on Up the Clarets
Replies: 61
Views: 6320

Re: Issues on Up the Clarets

Very erratic, one minute it seems fine, then it signs you out and has you checking connections it is so slow.
If AI is trawling message boards, Facebook etc. For content and opinion I certainly won’t trust it to answer anything.
by elwaclaret
Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:39 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This Town.
Replies: 21
Views: 3287

Re: This Town.

Just to add I’m 53 but with an older brother who got me into it young. Late 80’s I was very active I was DJ at a lot of scooter/skinhead events, including a gig at a club in the City centre Manchester… from there I worked with Bad Manners.. and was introduced to the London scene and met most of the ...
by elwaclaret
Tue Apr 30, 2024 7:25 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This Town.
Replies: 21
Views: 3287

Re: This Town.

I'm 56 years old (in body) and several of my friends of the same age enjoyed it. Granted although I was a teenager when the era of programme was based on I didn't live in Birmingham but I do remember the Zulus and their reputation of running areas. Some of the fashions and styling look to what some...
by elwaclaret
Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:07 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10073
Views: 1074080

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Most 777 Partners funds are traceable within North America or from 777 Re. Interestingly 777 Partners activities with 777 Re has led to a major investigation in the US as to how Private Equity and funds are leveraging assets from Reinsurance entities they have bought. A huge clampdown is coming, be...
by elwaclaret
Tue Apr 30, 2024 4:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: This Town.
Replies: 21
Views: 3287

Re: This Town.

Really disappointed int the three episodes that I watched. It was like a drama set in the eighties, presumably by a team of writers who did not experience any of it. The whole thing smacks as as a good idea poorly researched. This is a shame because there are thousands of people who lived through th...
by elwaclaret
Tue Apr 30, 2024 3:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Football's Magic Money Tree
Replies: 10073
Views: 1074080

Re: Football's Magic Money Tree

Think there needs to be a serious investigation as to whether there is sports washing going on with Everton. My (without much basis) hunch is there is still Russian money being plowed into Everton, and some sanction busting going on to be reclaimed in the long term by people who are currently blackl...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Claret One-Cap Wonders 2000-2024
Replies: 28
Views: 866

Re: Claret One-Cap Wonders 2000-2024

Just a thought did Aaron Ramsey not come on as a sub for England before switching allegiance to Wales?
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:49 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Forest points deduction appeal
Replies: 128
Views: 17500

Re: Forest points deduction appeal

This is part of Forest's complaint on FFP. If you've been in the championship that figures drops (possibly by £22m for each season outside the premier league, I can't remember exact figures). They claim that on promotion to the premier league you actually need to spend more to compete and so coupli...
by elwaclaret
Mon Apr 29, 2024 2:17 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wilder
Replies: 55
Views: 7676

Re: Wilder

About the "-ize" verb spellings you are correct, Jakubclaret. Realise or realize, organise or organize, analyse or analyze? "It is a common belief that -ize is an Americanism and the British is -ise: recognize rather than recognise. That if you spell with a -ize, that this is an American spelling. ...
by elwaclaret
Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:33 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wilder
Replies: 55
Views: 7676

Re: Wilder

Realized is that accepted I have to manually change it on my keypad if I want to spell it as realised. It makes no odds both have the same meaning & are as equally easy to understand regardless of the spelling preference. Your view is shared by Oxford and Cambridge, guardians of the written language.
by elwaclaret
Sun Apr 28, 2024 5:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wilder
Replies: 55
Views: 7676

Re: Wilder

Academia? As I said earlier, one is American, one is British. It goes without saying that the US version is slipping into British English. I've had all these discussions with my editors. Gone way past slipping in, as I said I still use ‘s’ but in the many papers I have read in recent years I am now...
by elwaclaret
Sun Apr 28, 2024 1:15 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Wilder
Replies: 55
Views: 7676

Re: Wilder

Quicknick wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 12:03 pm
Academia has nothing to do with it. One is American, the other British.
Nothing to do with academia?
Who do you think writes things like the Oxford English Dictionary, with current accepted versions of English spelling?