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by agreenwood
Mon Apr 22, 2024 4:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany to Brighton?
Replies: 108
Views: 6105

Re: Kompany to Brighton?

I reckon Tavolieri was ok when he was getting info from Belgium clubs on transfers, but he appears to have tried to followed in the footsteps of Romano of late and branch out into wider football news.

As a result half of the what he says appears to be absolute ********.
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 22, 2024 9:55 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Berge
Replies: 47
Views: 3937

Re: Berge

He's nowhere near Defour but he's a very different type of player so it doesn't really matter. He's the best we've had since Defour, that's for sure. Agree that Defour was a superior talent, but if it Berge isn’t sold and stays for, he’ll have played for us more than Defour ever did within the firs...
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 9:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany celebrating with the fans
Replies: 33
Views: 3501

Re: Kompany celebrating with the fans

A season full of naivity, odd selections and substitutes that have all but taken us down. Let's hope it won't. If so one of the greatest escapes ever. I’ve been to about 20 games this season. Saturday was the second time I’ve seen us win in person. Apologies for celebrating. I should have been bera...
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 7:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Kompany celebrating with the fans
Replies: 33
Views: 3501

Re: Kompany celebrating with the fans

The fans in the away end enjoyed it. He seemed to enjoy it.

What other considerations are there?
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:59 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today's Games
Replies: 246
Views: 5623

Re: Bobby Thomas

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:52 pm
One that we discarded too early having an excellent game.
🤣
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 5:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today's Games
Replies: 246
Views: 5623

Re: Today's Games

Rovers lose.

Forest lose.

United taken to extra time at the start of a busy week for them that ends with us.

As days we don’t play on go, it’s not been bad.
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:31 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
Replies: 182
Views: 10067

Re: Nottingham Forest tweet

Forest manager more or less just said he was thinks there’s a conspiracy against Forest. I think the club has lost the plot.

We’ve had some stinking decisions against us this season, but at no point have I ever been thought it was a conspiracy.
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 4:08 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Nottingham Forest tweet
Replies: 182
Views: 10067

Re: Nottingham Forest tweet

Bit of a stretch to suggest a) the VAR official was biased and b) he was biased against Forest in a game vs Everton. Only 1 point between them as the game kicked off. Both eminently catchable by Luton, particularly as Luton still have Everton to play.
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 3:47 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today's Games
Replies: 246
Views: 5623

Re: Today's Games

Forest’s twitter account has been overtaken by their crazy owner..
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 1:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Today's Games
Replies: 246
Views: 5623

Re: Today's Games

Not sure I fancy Everton here either. Hope I’m wrong.
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
Replies: 95
Views: 5239

Re: The objective for the rest of the season

None of those 7 matches were against teams in the upper echelons of the PL Table and 3 were against sides currently in the bottom 6. The next 3 fixtures against sides currently in the top 7 will give a truer picture of whether the apparent improvement in the level of performance can be translated i...
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:03 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Lyle Foster's class
Replies: 10
Views: 1951

Re: Lyle Foster's class

Can’t help but like him. Just seems like a genuinely pleasant character.
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 12:02 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Assignon & Esteve
Replies: 25
Views: 2623

Re: Assignon & Esteve

Esteve’s a budding leader too. Whilst his teammates were celebrating the third goal he was going round them all telling them to focus (or something similar). Seen him do it quite a bit.

Nice to see. We don’t appear to have too many of those vocal leaders in the side.
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:57 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
Replies: 95
Views: 5239

Re: The objective for the rest of the season

He's a pretty ginormous one, even with the cock ups. The team is much more spread out in possession and we can stretch the pitch and pass out (minus the odd cockup) to much greater effect. Muric gets the most out of Cullen as well for me and their partnership helps get us ticking. Can chalk the upt...
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:43 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
Replies: 95
Views: 5239

Re: The objective for the rest of the season

Mad what a change of keeper can do for a team... I agree-ish, because he’s also cost us points in two big games and even yesterday he mixed in some lapses with some brilliant saves. We may not have stayed up, but we’d probably have more points had Muric been in goal. He’s not the only factor in our...
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:37 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: The objective for the rest of the season
Replies: 95
Views: 5239

Re: The objective for the rest of the season

Well we can put this to bed.

Small wins.
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:22 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sherwood
Replies: 27
Views: 2753

Re: Sherwood

When you listen to him it’s amazing to think he’s been in charge at not one, but two Premier League clubs.
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 21, 2024 11:20 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Assignon & Esteve
Replies: 25
Views: 2623

Re: Assignon & Esteve

Matt Williams gave an interview to Radio Lancs in early Feb and said Esteve will become permanent in the summer regardless of the division we’re in. Assignon’s clause only kicks in if we stay up he said. Think it was reported separately as €10m. If we go down it’s hard to see him wanting to play in ...
by agreenwood
Sat Apr 20, 2024 10:28 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 85
Views: 4265

Re: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings

Odobert might not have been at his best but 5s? He turned the game in our favour with the great run for the first goal, picking it up off the defence and running all the way up. I wish Berge would do this. He's capable. There was a guy two rows behind me who was giving Odobert dogs abuse early in t...
by agreenwood
Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:38 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 85
Views: 4265

Re: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings

MrTopTier wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 9:36 pm
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There he is for you.
To be clear - he wasn’t bad. Just can’t think of anything good or bad to say. Didn’t really notice him.
by agreenwood
Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:51 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Mcburnie
Replies: 37
Views: 3221

Re: Mcburnie

Would need to retrieve him from Esteve’s pocket first.
by agreenwood
Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 85
Views: 4265

Re: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings

Muric 7 - Typical Muric performance. Some top saves, some fantastic distribution and then three horror passes that on another day could have been costly. Assignon 8 - Played a part in their goal, but otherwise solid and his most effective game going forward. Taylor 7 - The other culprit in their go...
by agreenwood
Sat Apr 20, 2024 8:24 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings
Replies: 85
Views: 4265

Re: Sheffield United v Burnley - Player Ratings

Muric 7 - Typical Muric performance. Some top saves, some fantastic distribution and then three horror passes that on another day could have been costly. Assignon 8 - Played a part in their goal, but otherwise solid and his most effective game going forward. Taylor 7 - The other culprit in their goa...
by agreenwood
Sat Apr 20, 2024 2:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: How we get the ball into the box
Replies: 16
Views: 982

Re: How we get the ball into the box

This thread is a classic example of people jumping on a negative without any context. The article (which I’ve actually read) is about common combinations ie the most frequently combining pairs in each team to get a ball into the box. For example Odegaard to Saka is Arsenals. This doesn’t mean that B...
by agreenwood
Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:51 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Weds Games
Replies: 54
Views: 2615

Re: Weds Games

It’s an odd outlook on football to watch two mega-wealthy, modern-day giants clash and somehow come out criticising the team who attempted to attack and play football, whilst lauding a team that put in the kind of performance that had me yearning for the return of the away goal rule.
by agreenwood
Wed Apr 17, 2024 3:05 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: U21s v Stockport
Replies: 41
Views: 2719

Re: U21s v Stockport

Shame about West. When you pay a fee for a youth player you expect it to work out a bit more. It’d be interesting to see the outcome stats on PL and Champ clubs signing players playing adult football and then chucking them into their youth teams. Even where these players are playing non-league foot...
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 9:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 5419

Re: Chelsea v Everton

But none of them were fouls, were they? Stood on his heel, but I think ref gave it for second one and then got off the hook by way of the first one being the actual foul. Sky making out that he was playing advantage and brought it back for first foul, but there’s no way you play advantage when the ...
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:58 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 5419

Re: Cole Palmer

dandeclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:55 pm
Absolutely terrible, but still enough to get 65%
More points than burnkey have this season.
…and so they should with a squad full of internationals and PL experience.
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:56 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 5419

Re: Cole Palmer

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:54 pm
England should build their team around Palmer, and Foden, and Grealish, oh, and Kane, and Madison, and Bellingham.
…and Saka.
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:55 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 5419

Re: Cole Palmer

Bizarrely Palmer may not even make the England squad.
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:52 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 5419

Re: Cole Palmer

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:50 pm
In all seriousness do England have the two most in form players in the premier league this season?

Palmer and Foden are looking out of this world at the moment
Newcastle, get out a beer. I agree with you.

Both are fantastic and a joy to watch.
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:45 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Chelsea v Everton
Replies: 134
Views: 5419

Re: Cole Palmer

How’s Everton’s fitness, effort and togetherness looking tonight?
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:42 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 77
Views: 4094

Re: Fitness

Maybe, maybe not. Some of our players do noticeably look tired towards the end of games. Without wishing to draw comparison to Dyche’s sides I felt we used to be the opposite and would often not even make a single substitute. Perhaps we play a higher intensity game, also we have younger players who...
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:34 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 77
Views: 4094

Re: Fitness

ksrclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:32 pm
Well my mistake then. I thought it was relevant because the players who have barely played were the ones brought back.

It is easy to list it as something VK has done wrong though because it’s easy to see why it was wrong.
Why was it wrong?
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10560

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

ClaretTony wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 6:18 pm
Bring Vigouroux in and send both Trafford and Muric to Everton to work with Billy Mercer for a month or so
No ta. :D
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:30 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 77
Views: 4094

Re: Fitness

Rileybobs wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:26 pm
I’m not sure if it’s fitness but we seem to run out of steam as games draw to an end. Not helped by the fact that our substitutes often don’t add any sort of spark.
Confidence and nouse, probably. Fitness, no.
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:29 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 77
Views: 4094

Re: Fitness

No impact, which I think is the point. No. I think Milltown’s original point appears to be that VK brought them back too early. Otherwise I don’t see the relevance to a fitness thread. To be honest I don’t remember much critism of it at the time. Easy in hindsight to add it to the growing list of t...
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:22 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 77
Views: 4094

Re: Fitness

ksrclaret wrote:
Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:20 pm
Especially not given most of the players he called back have either been shipped out somewhere else now or have hardly featured.

What a braindead decision.
If they aren’t here or aren’t playing, what impact has it had on this team’s fitness?
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 8:20 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Fitness
Replies: 77
Views: 4094

Re: Fitness

I’m not sure I can see a team lacking fitness being in so many close games at this point of the season. You’d expect us to be struggling to stay in games at the back end of the season, but we’ve actually been in more games of late and even nearly beat Chelsea with 10 men. The problem is in the perso...
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:53 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2 years without Dyche.
Replies: 55
Views: 3443

Re: 2 years without Dyche.

I’m not sure I miss his last 18 months, which seem to have been wiped from various memories whenever the current situation is compared to this season. I’m also not sure how “together” the team was towards the end. Ben Mee certainly alluded to some unhappiness in those final seasons in more than one...
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 15, 2024 12:21 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 2 years without Dyche.
Replies: 55
Views: 3443

Re: 2 years without Dyche.

I’m not sure I miss his last 18 months, which seem to have been wiped from various memories whenever the current situation is compared to this season. I’m also not sure how “together” the team was towards the end. Ben Mee certainly alluded to some unhappiness in those final seasons in more than one ...
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 14, 2024 9:40 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: penalty decision
Replies: 41
Views: 3981

Re: penalty decision

The lack of any real chatter about the Odobert incident yesterday, left me assuming that those who’d had the benefit of seeing a replay had decided it wasn’t a penalty. Having now watched it back myself, it’s a penalty. He crashes into Odobert before he clumsily gets contact on the ball. Completely ...
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:13 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10560

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

It was certainly off AFTER the mistake. I watched him for quite a while afterwards and it was clear he’d been affected by it. That then begs the question “where’s the captain?” I want to see a leader taking control and managing his players in that moment. Anyway, Muric carries on for me. I’m sure T...
by agreenwood
Sun Apr 14, 2024 8:11 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: RATE THE REF - Simon Hooper v Brighton
Replies: 49
Views: 2193

Re: RATE THE REF - Simon Hooper v Brighton

He missed the Odobert penalty for starters.
by agreenwood
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:54 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?
Replies: 363
Views: 10560

Re: So do you drop Muric after two massive costly howlers?

Muric is a better goalkeeper for us than Trafford is right now. I suspect that might change as Trafford matures and gains experience.

No doubt Muric was poor today though. It wasn’t just the goal. His distribution was off.
by agreenwood
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:44 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings
Replies: 91
Views: 4877

Re: Burnley v Brighton - Player Ratings

It’s ******* pointless marking when people are giving 4s to a 19 year old who played in three fantastic crosses as part of some sort of myopic “no end product” narrative.
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 08, 2024 9:48 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: If you were to become or are a member of a supporters club
Replies: 27
Views: 1432

Re: If you were to become or are a member of a supporters club

Travel to away games is all I’d be interested in I think.

Easy to ask for and far harder to arrange.
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:32 pm
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 'The Project'...
Replies: 58
Views: 2510

Re: 'The Project'...

Vegas Claret wrote:
Mon Apr 08, 2024 2:15 pm
Every club uses the word 'project'

Imagine being triggered by the word 'project'
Agreed. Most clubs have a strategy that looks a few years ahead. Not sure what the difference between a strategy, approach or project is really.
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 08, 2024 11:49 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: 'The Project'...
Replies: 58
Views: 2510

Re: 'The Project'...

It’s easy to deride things when they aren’t going well, but whether what we’re doing is a “project” or just an approach, it appeals to me and I’ve been more engaged over the last 2 years than I have been for a long time. I like the idea of bringing in young, technically gifted footballers. Of course...
by agreenwood
Mon Apr 08, 2024 8:42 am
Forum: The Bee Hole End
Topic: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton
Replies: 29
Views: 2130

Re: REPORT: Clarets suffer a damaging defeat at Everton

Sounds to have been a hugely disappointing performance yesterday, but I always think you should search for mitigations, and I do think there's one yesterday that has been under-explored. We quite regularly struggled under Dyche with the third Premier League game of a 3 game week and Dyche would mak...